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Ronald F. Guilmette  
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 More options Mar 4 2002, 1:13 pm
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: r...@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette)
Date: 4 Mar 2002 10:13:32 -0800
Local: Mon, Mar 4 2002 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Fun with www.billjones.org (was: Re: Bill Jones wants to be the Governor of California)
r...@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) wrote in message <news:aacf586.0202281956.5e31d7b1@posting.google.com>...

> "Bill Carton - (The Roadie)" <wcar...@flash.net> wrote in message <news:hl7t7uciitsnjgp2e88g4tgm8v668289na@4ax.com>...

> > The Bill Jones IP 207.188.212.67 has, alas, not yet come to the
> > attention of the SPEWS admins.

> There's an interesting form located at:

> http://www.billjones.org/Team/Member.cfm

> This is a sign-up form to become a member of the ``team''.

> But lookie at the source:

> <form ACTION="processmember.cfm" name="processmember" METHOD="POST"
> onsubmit="return ChkFields(this)">
> <input TYPE="hidden" name="memberid"
>                          VALUE="10116">
> <input TYPE="hidden" name="loggedon" VALUE="n">

> I wonder what happens if you set the "loggedon" value to "y" and then
> also set the "memberid" value to some random number between one and
> 10116.

> Well, I'm not good enough with this sort of thing to be able to find out
> easily.  But if somebody else wants to take a whack at it...

> I suspect that Mr. Jones' whole list of registered supporters could be
> mined off his web site.

Well, it looks like spammer Bill Jones finally got his web site moved
to a new home, now on CCI-INTERNET.COM.

But it was obviously a hasty move, and I suspect that he was forced to
move the site, hastily, off of a Windoze platform, and onto a UNIX
platform... a move which naturally could cause more that a few problems,
especially if the original web site developer wasn't entirely clear on
the difference between a forward slash and a (Windoze) backslash.  DOH!

Anyway, the URL I mentioned is no longer accessible, but then again, most
or all of the links to graphics on the site are now busted too.  (Hey
there Mr. Jones!  Real professional looking... NOT!)

Oh, and by the way folks, the people at CCI-INTERNET were not aware of why
www.billjones.org had to be so hastily relocated to their network.  But as
of this morning, I personally made them aware of the circumstances.  Not
like it is going to make much of a difference, one way or the other.  The
whole thing is going to be over by tomorrow anyway, and www.billjones.org
will be history.

Thanks to all of the people who sent me copies of the Bill Jones spam.
I'm saving them in case Bill Jones gets the stupid idea of trying to
make some legal trouble for his former providers, who took a courageous
stand by giving his web site the boot.

Hello?  Mr. Jones?  Hello?  Mr. Ng?  I have two words of advice for you:
Wise up.  Your web site got canned because you fucked up.  Get over it.
You hired some low-life sleezbag spammer and he went out and started
hijacking other people's servers in (at least) Korea and Japan.  Now, do
you dubmshits REALLY want to make ANOTHER big splash in the newspapers by
trying to make this a legal issue with your former providers?  If so, then
all I can say is go ahead.  Make my day.  I'll be among the first in line
to provide all of the evidence needed to prove, in the courts and in the
press, that the booting of your web site was entirely justified because of
the slimy tactics your low-life scum spamming sub-contractor engaged in.

Don't delude yourselves and don't waste your breath with moronic protests
like ``We didn't think it was illegal.''  Wise up.  That's not the point.
Just because there is no law on the books here in the U.S. which unambigu-
ously says that you shouldn't go around ripping off bandwidth from
defenseless Korean schoolchildren, that doesn't make it right.  And
nothing you can say will make it right.

You lost this one, but you may want to run for something else someday Mr.
Jones.  Don't make things any worse for yourself than they already are.


 
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