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Sun Tsu  
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 More options Aug 7 2004, 1:47 pm
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: bananana...@spamblocked.com (Sun Tsu)
Date: 7 Aug 2004 10:47:34 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 7 2004 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: SUCCESS!

Steve Baker <bake...@comcast.net> wrote in message <news:1259h0do3ht9bqn2inv5fptrl3pvn326qd@4ax.com>...
> On 7 Aug 2004 01:14:37 -0700, bananana...@spamblocked.com (Sun Tsu)
> wrote:

> >Andrew - Supernews <andrew+non...@supernews.com> wrote in message <news:slrnch8at5.1pnu.andrew+nonews@trinity.supernews.net>...
> >> On 2004-08-06, Sun Tsu <bananana...@spamblocked.com> wrote:

> >> What kind of crack are you smoking?
>>   Temper, temper, Andrew.
> Andrew has *never* posted anything that has made suspicious of his
> motives in any way

There was no disrespect displayed or directed toward Andrew in that
post, yet Andrew showed disrespect.  Facts are facts, Steve.

Accusing someone of smoking crack without proof is a serious
accusation and a suspicious motive regardless of his rationale.  That
puts him in league with spammers.

 Google Search: Banananane crack

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=bananananae...

The only other person to do such a stupid thing is a well documented
spammer who has his very own SPEWS record, SPEWS S1106.

> >Unless you can vouch for Bob personally, you have nothing to
> >contribute.

A tracert is a tracert is a tracert.  Why would anyone have an
emotional outburst against anyone else who simply posts *facts*
without investigating those facts first?  Spammy plays "tricjs" with
routing or have you forgotten?

No one attacked Andrew, yet Andrew attacked another spam fighter.
Andrew doesn't need you to speak for him and you obviously can't speak
for Bob, the spammer.  Therefore you had nothing to contribute to this
thread, yet you felt obligated for whatever reason to display your
lack of emotional control by posting a personal rant without
provocation.  :(

Now, Steve, if you actually want to do something useful and can't
understand too much information presented in one article, do some
googling on your own or do you have to be spoon fed the facts in the
fight against spam like some ignorant newbie to NANAE.

Just because *you* can't put two and two together doesn't mean someone
else can't.  Shouldn't you be directing your rage against spammy?  No
one mentioned you, so why the outburst of emotion?  If one wants to be
effective in the fight against spam, one can't become personally
involved nor can one be affected by anything someone ignorant of the
facts has to say.

Can you vouch for Bob?  Can you disprove anything that was posted?
Can you understand that someone other than a spammer doesn't just pop
in to NANAE with all of the solutions.  Are you that blind to believe
spammy's bullsh!t without question?

Here's your chance to either prove or disprove the facts.  Are you up
for the challenge, Steve?

Spammny registered /29's using 303 Second Street in San Francisco and
is most likely related to globalofferz.biz, a *most* egregious
pills/pron spammer.  Can you find any of his other /29's or link him
to any SPEWS records?

You should be able to construct that google search on your own but you
aren't acting much like an intelligent spam fighter today, so here it
is for you.

 Google Search: "303 Second Street"

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d&q=%...>

He also may have posted as ad...@globalofferz.biz using the very same
line of bullsh!t he is posting as Mr. Anonymous.  Can you find it or
your own or are you going to wait until someone who can do it does it
for you?

Here's a clue.  Read the articles referenced below and demonstrate
that you are a true spam fighter who can actually research spammers
and post useful information, or don't, and admit that you are just
simply someone who whines in NANAE and makes noise.  Contribute to the
cause rather than helping spammy obfuscate.

 Google Search: ad...@globalofferz.biz john drupling

<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=admin%40globalofferz.biz+john+drupl...>

Now, here's another clue that you will actually have to think about to
follow, "Is the sate of California a spam source?"

OK, Steve, now you have some clues, no *proof,* that Bob is a spammer.
 Either follow them and prove or disprove the accusation, or apologise
for your rude behaviour.

Just because some NANAE regulars "think" they know how to research
spammers doesn't mean that they do, nor does it mean that others can't
find what they haven't a clue as to how to find.

Ask yourself why you felt the need to be rude to someone else in a
matter which did not involve you.

TheBanana(tm) is a spam fighter, not a spam figher fighter.  You will
find no posts made by theBanana which is against SPEWS, Spamhaus or
*any* other spam fighter unless that poster either trolled
BananaPosts(tm) with some ulterior motive, such as the k00k/troll Marc
Dufour AKA Etaoin Shrdlu AKA S...@SS.org, or attacked this poster first.
 *Whomever* attacks first *will* be dispatched with all deliberate
speed.  This means *anyone,* be it spammer or no, if said poster
insists on contributing to FUD which can only help spammy.

If you do not understand what has just been said or should you wish to
continue this dialog, please take it to email.  NANAE is not the
proper forum for personal attacks and/or rude comments against other
spam fighters, such as the ones mentioned above.  That is how spammers
respond in NANAE, not gentlemen and ladies.

It is expected that not all posters have the self control to refrain
from making posts which are simply displays of their lack of self
discipline which results in nonproductive emotional outbursts
manifested as rants, no matter how short, which *do not* contribute to
the spam fighting effort one iota.  This posting email address is
always left open for such communications and also for "friendly" email
exchanges, which do take place with some NANAE posters.

There is *no* justification for such unwarranted and unsubstantiated
personal attacks and once made, the poster should expect a suitable
response.  There is no room for such immature behaviour in something
as time consuming and serious as spam fighting.  Other froups exists
for casual posters who just want to chit chat, make personal attacks
against others, tell "cute" stories, debate inane topics such as the
weather, seek personal gratification by seeing his or her words
printed on a computer screen, or for those who thrive on the attention
they seek and so desperately need to feel fulfilled.

>   You're a whack job.

Now you sound like a spammer and/or someone who can't control his
emotions and/or someone who forgot how to exhibit proper manners and
employ good interpersonal skills in hos posts.  :(

> >Have a nice weekend.

>   Yes, Andrew, please do.

It was a sincere gesture which is more than you seem to be able to
muster.

Have nice weekend, Steve.

Cheers,

SuN

--
Cui nun senti raggiuni, nun pò fari cosi cu raggiuni.

Steve, your last name doesn't sound Sicilian, so here's the
translation.
Who doesn't listen to reason, can't do things with reason.


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