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 More options Apr 13 2005, 1:59 pm
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: bananana...@spamblocked.com (Sun Tsu)
Date: 13 Apr 2005 10:59:43 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 13 2005 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: Spammer sentenced to 9 years

spammers_...@pandora.orbl.org wrote in message <news:eo5p51pkkp3iuf340hkfe1qk1b5ffcmph7@4ax.com>...
> susan <su...@spamhaus.org> wrote:

> >>"SuN Tsu" <bananana...@blockedby.Us>
> >>in message news:1113319650.713028.54130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Sounds like you believe in fighting abuse with abuse and support
> >>> Brother in his abusive and indiscriminate use of SpamVampire.

> >>> Many NANAE regular, including Shiksaa, regularly express their
> >>> disagreement and personal opinion on this subject.

> >>> Those who do what they wish against the majority of society's
> >>> wisher are known as sociopaths.

> >>> This is the personality trait found in serial killers and
> >>> serial rapists.

> > Why don't you two nutjobs grow up or unsub from this
> > newsgroup you're both are morons who contribute nothing
> > but bullshit.

Well, well, if it isn't Susan acting as moron and kook herself.  Whom
do you think you are?  You don't own NANAE and never have.

Perhaps you continue to confuse the practice of defending oneself
agains the attacks of a well known kook like Darren Glen Brothers.

Remember, you have openly advocated that fighting abuse with abuse is
*wrong* and yet you willingly and openly supported a kook like Darren
Glen Brothers and told him that you liked his research.  Did you
forget his SpamVampire program or how you fell about fighting abuse
with abuse.

What that a kook statement or a moron statement you made about its
faulty research?

But, actually what you liked was his support of spamhaus' misspelling
of "Mart" Trotter.

Ever since McWilliams released his book, SpamKings, you have been
different, very different, having gone from requesting information
prior to the book via back channels to posting kooks rants at anyone,
including, Bill the Roadie Carton, who has done more than most in
abating spam, just to satisfy your anger, again just like Darren Glen
Brothers.

You, OTOH, have been angry and hostile yourself, taking out your anger
at McWillams on anyone exactly as Darren Glen Brothers takes out his
frustrations on theBanana(tm) because Brothers is helpless to seek
revenge from those who are actually pushing his buttons, making and
watching him go "whiirrr."

If you think theBanana(tm) contributes nothing but bullshit, then open
your eyes.  You have used information sent to you upon request and
such information can be found in both Spamhaus and SPEWS records, so
get off your high horse, Susan, get a grip on yourself and see reality
as it really is.

And FTR, lettuce(tm) remember that it was *you* who contacted
theBanana(tm) *first* via IM about spam fighting.

Go find yourself another whipping person if you can't handle the
ramifications of "SpamKings" which is Shirley not the doing of those
you have been attacking as of late.

If you don't want to read people's posts, plonk them and forget them,
but only a weakling follows up on someone's else post so they can be
heard and not _appear_ to read the response.  Don't be one of those
weak posters, hiding behind their momy's skirt, peering around it,
saying, "nay, nay, nay, nay" exactly as Russell Miller does.  Now
there's a kook who contributes nothing but bullshit whom you labeled
as a kook long ago, remember, Shiksaa?

See how much you have changed in your views of spam fighting.

These weakling plonkers pretend not to read posts of those they plonk,
but people like Ferguson, Miller, Brothers and Wilson all do.   A good
investigator will plonk no one, so anyone who plonks people is simply
fooling himself if he thinks he knows anything about investigting.    
 :(

Russell Miller attacked you on behalf of Mark Ferguson and now he is
your _friend_ who contributes absolutely nothing to NANAE.

Susan, NANAE is NANAE, if you are not happy here, perhaps *you* should
find another place to post.

You have exchanged email with theBanana(tm) for years and you were
*always* treated with respect, given the information you required, and
treated as a fellow spam fighter who was working in a concerted effort
to abate spam.

A great deal of information about AOL niche spammers was sent to
Shiksaa.  She had an excellent opportunity to contribute to posts
about them and helping to shut them down, but it never really happened
for one reason or another.  Perhaps it and other long time AOL users
who posts in NANAE have a personal agenda which does not include
shutting down AOL niche spammers.

Who has consistently for years posted about AOL niche spammers in
detail?

Lately, Shiksaa, you're been posting as an angry moron who thinks it
has to comment on more non-spam fighting articles than spam fighting
ones.

Your influence in NANAE will never be the same.  It has nothing to do
with theBanana(tm), but if it makes it feel any better, go right ahead
and blame theBanana(tm) for your petty personal problems just like the
moron / kook / stalker, Darren Glen Brothers does.

The similarities are astounding and you keep confirming them    :(

If you think that Darren Glen Brothers is correct, then post your
reseach in support of him.  You have never done this why?  Is it
bcause you are painfully ware of just how many mistakes he makes on a
daily basis?

The only thing that has changed thus far has been you!       :(

Perhaps you should have another look at who responds to whom.  It is
ignord, yet it continues to attack on a daily basis.  Do the math,
Susan!

> I'm amazed that hillscapital expect to be take seriously at all.

He knows this but will *never* admit it.  He blocks out reality
because he doesn't approve of it.       :(

> We interact with various investment clubs/vehicles and any mention
> of that outfit is met with guffaws and descriptions of the complete
> and total exhibition of kookdom by at least one of the individuals
> that represent said outfit. "Would you trust a nutjob with your money"?

Of course, you are 100% correct, but now Brothers will *DEMAND* that
you prove your position.   :(

It has absolutely no concept of right and wrong when it comes to his
own actions.  It is a well documented usenet spammer.

It has made *numerous* false and malicious accusations against
theBanana(tm) which were perpetrated by spammers which he has
unilaterally spamvampired, whether they spammed his account or not.

It reads NANAE every day and still can't comprehend how widely it is
ignored and how ineffective any of its poorly constructed kook whines
actually are.

He's a psycho stalker who couldn't realise that destroying his own RL
name, Darren Glen Brothers, and that of his company, Hills Capital
Management in an attempt to destroy an alias personal is pure
st00pidity.

Rather than fight spam it is obsessed with theBanana(tm) trying
desperately to find someone to extract revenge from, even after it
posted this fact in NANAE.  What a dufus, kook, stalker, moron and
idiot it truly is.

He's known as "Implicate Others Brothers" and will implicate anyone in
his attempts to impress people.

It said he was going to move his hosting to spamblocked.com yet that
has never happened nor is it ever likely to happen.   :(

It claimed Donny of Intersosmos.com / DirectNIC.com said things he
didn't say and then *forced* him to come into NANAE and prove Brothers
a liar by clearly stating that he was shinning Brothers on about it
working with Scelson.

And lettuce(tm) not forget that it posted Brian Burns reg information
out of anger, hostility and pure hate.  Dufus didn't even to bother to
research what he was doing.  It claims to be such a great spam fighter
and it didn't know who Brian is or AHBL or SOSDG.

It acts as a wild cornered animal attacking anything he fears, not
bothering to seek out the truth or even recognise reality.

After all of this time, no spammer which it complained about has been
stopped, sued or prosecuted, so its effectiveness as a spam fighter is
zed.   :(

It even phooled Shiksaa into thinking it could do research.  Well, it
did eventually realise after ***numerous*** posts that Mark Trotter
was misspelled.  What a dufus, defending Spamhaus' misspelling of
"Mart" Tortter when it knew better, thinking that was a proper course
of action.

Imagine the time it expends *daily* trying to "destroy" a fellow spam
fighter rather than fight spam.  It isn't even very good at it either
and those who support it are blind and should no longer be trusted.

Don't forget that it claims that tens of thosuands of people use
spamvampire.

"I've cut my spam receival rate to a fraction of what it once
 was, I've got more clients than ever, there are literally
 tens of thousands of people using SpamVampire
 (and more doing so every day)"

-Darren Glen Brothers,  doing what he does best in NANAE, lying
 and fantasizing about anyone other than himself using the abusive
 program SpamVampire and lying about his spam / email rate which
 is actually increasing due to his advocation of SpamVampire
 Would *you* invest *your* money with a kook who errs regularly?

How does someone like Shiksaa support an idiot who posted this?

"he spent hours tonight trying to sign me up for every email
  newsletter under the sun. Too bad you wasted all that time,
  Sun Fool...   maybe next time you can try a Joe-job, so
  you'll be seen as the spammer you really are."

--Darren Brothers,  whining about being a serial victim of Spammy's
  harassment in retaliation for *his* abusive and arbitrary use of
  SpamVampire. Being the bitch of ignorance, his paranoia dictates
  that he blame his "one and only" suspect for Spammy's harassment.
 In reality, he has absolutely *NO* idea who is having a go at him.
:(

and this

"And isn't it amazing that, wonder of wonders, all the IP addresses
 you currently use come up as being from this same area? And why do
 you use so many IP addresses? Spammers tend  to jump around, but

 u not legitimate internet users... using AOL, you'd have to
 consciously decide to connect to different POPs."

--Daren Brothers  declaring that he has no idea how AOL dynamic
                  dial-up IP's work, nor where they are loca

 When will the kook / k00k-boy Darren Glen Brothers AKA Spamvampire
 AKA Spam Reporting AKA Mr. Anonymous AKA webmas...@hillscapital.com
 AKA hills...@pacbell.net stop stalking and being the "Phool of NANAE"
:(

or this ....

"Considering that Sun Fool is the only one malicious enough
 to try to trick us into looking like fools by signing up a
 fraudulent client, I wanted to see if he's in the NJ area."

-Darren Brothers,  doing what he does best in NANAE,
                   chasing shadows and stalking ...

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or something that has a mantra of  ...

"You started all of this... none of this would have been
 necessary if you'd simply admitted to making mistakes and
 errors in judgment. And it's not going to end until you do
 admit to making those mistakes, and apologize for them."

--Darren Glen Brothers,  resident NANAE kook, playing netcop,
  net judge and net jury and sentencing NANAE to a lifetime of
  stalking and kook rants.   :(

The Crime: debunking his *numerous* false accusations about whom
he believes is harassing him whilst Spammy continues to push his
buttons, make and watch him go "whiirrr" in retaliation for his
abusive
and indiscriminate use of SpamVampire

How can anyone with any intelligence not see how much of a kook Darren
Glen Brothers is by his posts and how he has *continuously* made false
and malicious accusations out of anger, hostility and paranoia?

Some folks have a very difficult problem in distinguishing offensive
and defensive actions.

Even Shiksaa defended herself against Mark Ferguson's attack,yet it
cannot understand anyone else defending themself against a well known
kook, stalker and moron like Brothers.

What has been learnt in NANAE is that personal agendas rule and many
of the regular posters *need* the attention of posting and some even
use it as their own personal log.

Just how pathetic have some folks become?

But, when it comes to Darren Glen Brothers and Hills Capital
Management they remain the most blind, deaf and dumb.

Anyone, even Susan Wilson, can see that Darren Glen Brothers is a
stalker, moron, a usenet spammer and refuses to accept reality and
consumes itself in revenge rather than living a normal, happy,
productive life.

As usual, the best of success to you and good health to you and your
family Susan!    ;-)

We all still love you.

Cheers,

SuN

--
One entry found for NANAE terrorist.    
Main Entry: NAˇNAE terˇrorˇist
Pronunciation: Nae-nay ter-&r-"i-st"
Function: noun
: one who employs the systematic use of terror, lies and FUD
  especially as a means of coercion in NANAE    
: one willing to destroy ones own RL reputation in an attempt to
  destroy another's alias reputation, usually motivated by deep
  rooted control issues and an advanced anger management problem;
  aggravated by paranoia and irritated by shadow chasing.
See: Darren Glen Brothers / Hills Capital Management Kook / Spam
     Reporting / Mr. Anonymous / Darren.Broth...@hillscapital.com

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