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David Cary Hart  
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From: David Cary Hart <ExMach...@TQMcube.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:27:56 GMT
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 2:27 pm
Subject: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
Could I get a look at nanas.pl?
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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:13:14 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
Scripsit David Cary Hart:

> Could I get a look at nanas.pl?

In order for this to work correctly you want to change your MTA settings
so that an "X-ConnectingHost: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" header is added to the
top of inbound mail. If you're using sendmail then you just add this to
your sendmail.mc, generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

Also, since it's running on a *nix system (Linux in this case) it
assumes lines fed to it by the MTA end with \n rather than \r\n.

Anyway, here's the script:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use IO::Socket::INET;

# If you need to authenticate for NNTP then:
my $NEEDAUTH = 1;
my ( $AUTHUSER, $AUTHPASS ) = ( "your NNTP login" , "your NNTP password" );
# Otherwise $NEEDAUTH = 0;
my $NNTPSERVER = "your news server";
my $NEWSGROUP = "news.admin.net-abuse.sightings";
my $SENDER = "your name <e-mail address>";
# If a Followup-To: header is required, then:
my $FUP2 = "news.admin.net-abuse.email";

# Used for debugging purposes:
my $DEBUG = 0;
my $NOSEND = 0;

print "Expecting headers...\n" if $DEBUG;

my $GOT_HEADERS = 0;

my $SUBJECT = "Subject: [email]\r\n";
my $CHOST = "";

my $SPAM = "";

while(<>) {

  # Strip the mbox delimiter
  next if ( /^From / && !$GOT_HEADERS );
  # Double a leading period so we don't unplug the stream prematurely
  s/^\./../;
  if ( (/^Subject: /i) && !$GOT_HEADERS ) {
    $SUBJECT = $_;
    $SUBJECT =~ s/^Subject:/Subject: [email] [$CHOST]/i;
    print $SUBJECT if $DEBUG;
  }
  if ( (/^X-ConnectingHost: [\d\.]+/) && !$GOT_HEADERS ) {
    ($CHOST = $_) =~ s/X-ConnectingHost: ([\d\.]+)\s*/$1/;
    print "Got connecting host: $CHOST\n" if $DEBUG;
  }
  if ( ( $_ eq "\n" ) && !$GOT_HEADERS ) {
    print "Got headers!\n" if ( $DEBUG );
    $GOT_HEADERS = 1;
  }
  s/\x0A/\x0D\x0A/g;
  $SPAM .= $_;

}

my $HEADERS = "From: $SENDER\r
Newsgroups: $NEWSGROUP\r
${SUBJECT}User-Agent: nanas.pl v0.1\r\n";
$HEADERS .= "Followup-To: $FUP2\r\n" if ( !($FUP2 eq "") );

if ( $NOSEND ) {

print "$HEADERS
$SPAM\n";

}

else
{
my $SOCKET = IO::Socket::INET->new("${NNTPSERVER}:119");
die("Can't open connection to $NNTPSERVER on port 119.\n") unless ( $SOCKET );
print "Socket to ${NNTPSERVER}:119 open\n" if ( $DEBUG );
# expect the greeting
my $GOTRESPONSE = 0;
my $RESPONSE = "";
while ( 1 ) {
  $RESPONSE = <$SOCKET> ;
  last if ( $RESPONSE =~ m/^\d{3}\s/ );
}

print "Server response: $RESPONSE" if ( $DEBUG );

# If it wasn't a 2xx code then bail out
die("Can't use this server. Response != 2xx\n") if ( $RESPONSE !~ m/^2/ );

# So far so good. Are we supposed to authenticate?
if ( $NEEDAUTH ) {
  print "Authenticating...\n" if ( $DEBUG );
  print "Sending AUTHINFO USER\n" if ( $DEBUG );
  print $SOCKET "AUTHINFO USER ${AUTHUSER}\r\n";
  $RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;
  die("The server didn't understand our AUTHINFO USER\n") if ( $RESPONSE !~ m/^3/ );
  print "Sending AUTHINFO PASS\n" if ( $DEBUG );
  print $SOCKET "AUTHINFO PASS ${AUTHPASS}\r\n";
  $RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;
  die($RESPONSE) unless ( $RESPONSE =~ m/^2/ );

}

# Send the MODE READER COMMAND
print "Sending MODE READER\n" if ( $DEBUG );
print $SOCKET "MODE READER\r\n";
$RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;
die("MODE READER command not understood.\n") unless ( $RESPONSE =~ m/^2/ );

print "Sending POST command\n" if ( $DEBUG );
print $SOCKET "POST\r\n";
$RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;
die "POST command not understood.\n" unless ( $RESPONSE =~ m/^3/ );

print "Posting article...\n" if ( $DEBUG );
print $SOCKET "$HEADERS\r\n";

print $SOCKET "This is a piece of spam that hit a spam trap of mine.\r\n\r\n";
print $SOCKET "It has been forwarded to NANAS by an automated process.\r\n\r\n$SPAM\r\n.\r\n";

$RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;
die("Message not posted: $RESPONSE") unless ( $RESPONSE =~ m/^2/ );

print "Sending QUIT\n" if ( $DEBUG );
print $SOCKET "QUIT\r\n";
$RESPONSE = <$SOCKET>;

close($SOCKET);

}

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 3:25 pm
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From: David Cary Hart <ExMach...@TQMcube.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:25:02 GMT
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius

On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 21:13 +0200, Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit David Cary Hart:

> > Could I get a look at nanas.pl?

> In order for this to work correctly you want to change your MTA settings
> so that an "X-ConnectingHost: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" header is added to the
> top of inbound mail. If you're using sendmail then you just add this to
> your sendmail.mc, generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

Thanks. I'm thinking about posting hourly spamtrap hits to NANAS - not
sure.

I have an expect script working with telnet to the leafnode server but
it seems rather clumsy.
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Discussion subject changed to "Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]" by Andrzej Adam Filip
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 More options Apr 24 2005, 3:28 pm
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:28:00 +0000
Subject: Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit David Cary Hart:
>>Could I get a look at nanas.pl?
> In order for this to work correctly you want to change your MTA settings
> so that an "X-ConnectingHost: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" header is added to the
> top of inbound mail. If you're using sendmail then you just add this to
> your sendmail.mc, generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

> HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

1) *DO NOT* modify sendmail.cf directly.
Modify *.mc file used to generate sendmail.cf

LOCAL_CONFIG
HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

2) Unless you modify sendmail *sources* (trivial one line patch)
* sendmail will *KEEP* already present X-ConnectingHost header
* sendmail will not append new header

> [...]

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 3:45 pm
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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:45:21 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
Scripsit David Cary Hart:

> Thanks. I'm thinking about posting hourly spamtrap hits to NANAS - not
> sure.

While I think of it, the spam that nanas.pl forwards to NANAS is already
preprocessed.

To start with, attachments are stripped using a tool I found here:

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/stripmail/

(I use the '-h' flag in order to strip everything but text/plain and
text/html)

The resulting, stripped mail is then piped through another perl script
which elides sensitive things like spam trap addresses. Once that's been
done, what's left is piped through nanas.pl.

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 3:59 pm
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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:59:31 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:

>> If you're using sendmail then you just add this to your sendmail.mc,
>> generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

>> HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

> 1) *DO NOT* modify sendmail.cf directly.
> Modify *.mc file used to generate sendmail.cf

Where did I tell anyone to modify their sendmail.cf directly? Re-read
what I wrote (quoted above for your convenience).

> LOCAL_CONFIG
> HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

> 2) Unless you modify sendmail *sources* (trivial one line patch)
> * sendmail will *KEEP* already present X-ConnectingHost header
> * sendmail will not append new header

Good point. Which source file and which line? (Using 8.13.3 here).

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 4:20 pm
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:20:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:
>>>If you're using sendmail then you just add this to your sendmail.mc,
>>>generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

>>>HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

>>1) *DO NOT* modify sendmail.cf directly.
>>Modify *.mc file used to generate sendmail.cf

> Where did I tell anyone to modify their sendmail.cf directly? Re-read
> what I wrote (quoted above for your convenience).

I was "partially right" (read: wrong) BUT "extra magic line" in *.mc
file is recommended (but not strictly necessary for "H..." lines).

>>LOCAL_CONFIG
>>HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

>>2) Unless you modify sendmail *sources* (trivial one line patch)
>>* sendmail will *KEEP* already present X-ConnectingHost header
>>* sendmail will not append new header

> Good point. Which source file and which line? (Using 8.13.3 here).

sendmail/conf.c file in "define headers flags" section:
"x-connectinghost", H_ACHECK,

You may also ask sendmail.org to put "the fix" in next sendmail release
(the current one is 8.13.4).

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 4:25 pm
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From: David Cary Hart <ExMach...@TQMcube.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:25:02 GMT
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius

We don't receive anything that hits the traps. It gets discarded (and
thereafter rejected). I maintain a web-viewable list separate from the
RBLDNSD zone file. The format is:

Sun Apr 24 15:15:19 EDT 2005    Trap    66.243.64.204   {set204.homerail.com}
Sun Apr 24 15:16:26 EDT 2005    Trap    82.158.239.91   {91.red-82-158-239.user.auna.net}
Sun Apr 24 15:17:32 EDT 2005    Manual  66.98.182.31    ns1.nhive.com.
Sun Apr 24 15:18:51 EDT 2005    Trap    84.99.170.32    {32.170.99-84.rev.gaoland.net}
Sun Apr 24 15:26:23 EDT 2005    Trap    84.101.99.247   {247.99.101-84.rev.gaoland.net}
Sun Apr 24 15:34:29 EDT 2005    Trap    203.177.140.46  {unknown}
Sun Apr 24 15:48:52 EDT 2005    Trap    24.13.180.211   {c-24-13-180-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net}
Sun Apr 24 15:49:08 EDT 2005    Trap    82.227.32.73    {stgebois-1-82-227-32-73.fbx.proxad.net}
Sun Apr 24 16:02:39 EDT 2005    Dynamic 68.161.205      {pool-68-161-205-145.ny325.east.verizon.net}
Sun Apr 24 16:02:44 EDT 2005    Trap    68.161.205.145  {pool-68-161-205-145.ny325.east.verizon.net}
Sun Apr 24 16:13:23 EDT 2005    Trap    82.23.120.218   {cpc1-belc1-4-1-cust218.belf.cable.ntl.com}
Sun Apr 24 16:15:40 EDT 2005    Dynamic 217.172.231     {host-217-172-231-100.gdynia.mm.pl}
Sun Apr 24 16:15:43 EDT 2005    Trap    217.172.231.100 {host-217-172-231-100.gdynia.mm.pl}
Sun Apr 24 16:17:43 EDT 2005    Asia    61.180.80.136   {unknown}

Would it be helpful to post the adds hourly in this format?
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 More options Apr 24 2005, 4:26 pm
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:26:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit David Cary Hart:
>>Could I get a look at nanas.pl?

> In order for this to work correctly you want to change your MTA settings
> so that an "X-ConnectingHost: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" header is added to the
> top of inbound mail. If you're using sendmail then you just add this to
> your sendmail.mc, generate a new sendmail.cf and restart the daemon:

> HX-ConnectingHost: ${client_addr}

Quite a few people use milters to integrate AS and AV checks with
sendmail *DURING* smtp session. Making MIMEDefang milter (popular
choice) add the header would be simple  (MIMEDefang uses perl filter
script).

http://www.mimedefang.org/

>[...]

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 4:33 pm
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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:33:21 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:

> sendmail/conf.c file in "define headers flags" section:
> "x-connectinghost", H_ACHECK,

Do you mean the array which starts line 78:

struct hdrinfo  HdrInfo[] =
{
  etc...

> You may also ask sendmail.org to put "the fix" in next sendmail release
> (the current one is 8.13.4).

I can see why they don't do it for X- headers since they're not supposed
to have any particular meaning.

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 4:39 pm
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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:39:10 +0200
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
Scripsit David Cary Hart:

> Would it be helpful to post the adds hourly in this format?

Well, the NANAS charter is readable here:
http://www.killfile.org/%7Etskirvin/nana/charter/nanas.html

Deciding whether or not such logs constitute "reports of sightings of
net abuse" is left as an exercise for the reader :)

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 More options Apr 24 2005, 7:55 pm
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From: Murray Watson <JunkDTe...@adelphia.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:55:31 -0400
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
In news.admin.net-abuse.email - article
<1114374165.6256.20.ca...@dch.tqmcube.com>, on Sun, 24 Apr 2005
20:25:02 GMT, David Cary Hart says...

news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins might be more appropriate.  Take a
look at SORBS submissions there.

I personally view .sightings as individual spam documents and
.bulletins being lists of incidents, the latter typically being more
readily parseable and used in automation.  

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From: Quaestor <no_s...@my.place>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:57 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 24 2005 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius

David Cary Hart wrote:
>I'm thinking about posting hourly spamtrap hits to NANAS - not
>sure.

Put a variable delay and percent chance to post or not on that, so
spammy doesn't start testing to locate your traps.

 
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:20:00 +0000
Subject: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit David Cary Hart:

>>Could I get a look at nanas.pl?
> [...]

> Anyway, here's the script:

> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> [...]

Why do not use use Net::NNTP module for posting usenet messages?

OR

NANAS newsgroup is moderated, send email directly to moderator bot

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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:15:11 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 5:15 am
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:

> Why do not use use Net::NNTP module for posting usenet messages?

a) I'm not sure I have that module.

b) Checking and hunting it down would take more time that implementing
the NNTP protocol myself. I've written enough similar stuff in C and
Pascal not to be bothered in the least if there's no ready-made class to
implement it for me.

> NANAS newsgroup is moderated, send email directly to moderator bot

Considering some of the postings I send get rejected because I have too
many concurrent connections to the NNTP server, I probably will switch
to e-mail at some point in the near future.

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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:36:00 +0000
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:
>>Why do not use use Net::NNTP module for posting usenet messages?
> a) I'm not sure I have that module.

Net::NNTP and Net::SMTP are available (for free) at www.cpan.org
http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/libnet-1.19/

> b) Checking and hunting it down would take more time that implementing
> the NNTP protocol myself. I've written enough similar stuff in C and
> Pascal not to be bothered in the least if there's no ready-made class to
> implement it for me.

You can do what you consider the best but I personally preferer using
"more general purpose" modules, (IMHO) they are better tested.

>>NANAS newsgroup is moderated, send email directly to moderator bot

> Considering some of the postings I send get rejected because I have too
> many concurrent connections to the NNTP server, I probably will switch
> to e-mail at some point in the near future.

If you send *many* reports and the script is executed from cron then
make your script send multiple reports via single SMTP connection to
bot's MTA. Take care about bot's MTA load too :-)

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 More options Apr 25 2005, 5:50 am
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From: DevilsPGD <ihates...@crazyhat.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:50:58 -0600
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 5:50 am
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
In message <slrnd6pd8v.3ba.nob...@squash.a.spammer.today> Marcus

Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:

>> NANAS newsgroup is moderated, send email directly to moderator bot

>Considering some of the postings I send get rejected because I have too
>many concurrent connections to the NNTP server, I probably will switch
>to e-mail at some point in the near future.

huh?

At most, this is a problem with your ISP (or whoever provides your NNTP
server), NANAS' bot cannot know how many connections you have
established at any given time.

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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:01:54 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 6:01 am
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
Scripsit DevilsPGD:

> At most, this is a problem with your ISP (or whoever provides your NNTP
> server), NANAS' bot cannot know how many connections you have
> established at any given time.

I may have phrased that awkwardly.

SuperNews allows me 4 concurrent connections. If I start processing a
5th spam in parallel because the amount being sent to me is so high,
then nanas.pl will fail because I can't open a 5th connection to
SuperNews.

The answer would be to serialize everything and do it all periodically
with a single connection but I do have things to get on with in life
other than writing stuff to process spam. It is, however, down in my
TODO list.

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From: David Cary Hart <ExMach...@TQMcube.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:10:00 GMT
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 11:15 +0200, Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit Andrzej Adam Filip:

> > Why do not use use Net::NNTP module for posting usenet messages?

> a) I'm not sure I have that module.

> b) Checking and hunting it down would take more time that implementing
> the NNTP protocol myself. I've written enough similar stuff in C and
> Pascal not to be bothered in the least if there's no ready-made class to
> implement it for me.

cpan install Net::NNTP (works for moi).


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Discussion subject changed to "Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]" by Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Sendmail and nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>[...]
>>2) Unless you modify sendmail *sources* (trivial one line patch)
>>* sendmail will *KEEP* already present X-ConnectingHost header
>>* sendmail will not append new header

> Good point. Which source file and which line? (Using 8.13.3 here).

Today I noticed "X-ConnectingHost: 127.0.0.1" header in one of spam
messages I received.

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Discussion subject changed to "nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]" by Quaestor
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From: Quaestor <no_s...@my.place>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:32:12 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Seems like a problem that could grow.

Any way to rewrite the bot to process by batch instead of one at a
time?  That way you send a bunch as one posting.


 
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:40:00 +0000
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]

Quaestor wrote:
> Marcus Aurelius wrote:
>[...]
>> The answer would be to serialize everything and do it all periodically
>> with a single connection but I do have things to get on with in life
>> other than writing stuff to process spam. It is, however, down in my
>> TODO list.

> Seems like a problem that could grow.

> Any way to rewrite the bot to process by batch instead of one at a
> time?  That way you send a bunch as one posting.

BTW the NANAS bot accepts messages in hourly batches, sending reports
"at once" gives no gain.

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From: Marcus Aurelius <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:50:49 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: nanas.pl [Was: Pinging Marcus Aurelius]
Scripsit Quaestor:

> Seems like a problem that could grow.

Indeed. Unless something utterly unbelievable happens, the amount of
crap hitting my traps is only going to grow.

> Any way to rewrite the bot to process by batch instead of one at a
> time?  That way you send a bunch as one posting.

If I switch over to SMTP it'll no longer be a problem.

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Discussion subject changed to "Pinging Marcus Aurelius" by Larry M. Smith
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 More options Apr 25 2005, 6:49 pm
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From: "Larry M. Smith" <SgtChains-shr...@FahQ2.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:49:18 -0500
Local: Mon, Apr 25 2005 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius
Marcus Aurelius wrote:
> Scripsit David Cary Hart:

>>Could I get a look at nanas.pl?

(snip)

> Anyway, here's the script:

> #!/usr/bin/perl -w

(snipage of script that shouldn't be used)

http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/faqs/nanas.html
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Q: I can forward all...
A: Stop right there.  I'd rather you didn't send me every email
    that comes to a certain address; this tends to lead fairly
    rapidly to an effective mailbomb, with hundreds of megabytes
    of forwarded traffic blocking both the network pipe and the
    local resources of the moderation box.  As such, I have taken
    a fairly hard-line approach to the problem: if any problems
    with the volume of your posts come to my notice, I will
    immediately stop accepting your submissions, probably without
    notice.  You have been warned.
</BLOCKQUOTE>

Come on...  It isn't that hard to find the FAQ for sightings.

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From: David Cary Hart <ExMach...@TQMcube.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:50:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Pinging Marcus Aurelius

Yes. I read the FAQ. I had an entirely different objective.
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