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Scott Dorsey  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: The Spammers are After Me!
Check this one out!

I run machines at a small government site, and we got spammed by LA Aluminum.
I also got a spam here on my netcom account.  I called the folks there up
and explained the issue, and they were pretty polite and helpful, actually.
So then they had the spam company call me.

I talked to Christeine Bentley at Email For You (407-464-1566), and as
always, I told the spammer that I'd hang up as soon as she lied, and I
did so.

Anyway, the spam company then sent the following message on to their
customer, which I find absolutely hilarious.  Sorry it took me so long to
forward this on....

Clearly, I didn't claim to be the 'head of security' for any other
'computer intelligence' division (and surely if I were going to lie I
could have thought up something a lot less silly than that), but on
the whole most of the stuff they list is accurate information, just twisted
in a pretty amazing way.  (Oh yes, the Air Force Base and NASA/Langley
are also totally different organizations and so someone is a bit confused).

I have no clue what was in the attachment cited, since it was some huge
Word document, and it's obviously not repeated here.

Anyway, I thought you guys would get a kick out of this stuff.  Don't piss
off spammers or you might get investigated like I did <mild chuckle>.

--cut here--

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I don't know how they got this but thought you might want to know, it
has been faxed, E-mailed to two location that I have seen today.

Bob

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April 27, 2000

Dear Sirs:

Subject: Scott B. Dorsey

I have done research on the events that lead to my contacting you and have
the following information to report:  

An individual email was sent to Scott B. Dorsey at Klu...@netcom.com in
regards to his interest in Aerospace. This individual, after receiving the
email was angry and called LA Aluminum and portrayed to be the Head of
Security of NASA- Computer Intelligence Division.  LA Aluminum put Mr. Dorsey
in touch with Bob Petet from Sales Creators.  Sales Creators has been
contracted by LA Aluminum to help with their marketing.  

Mr. Dorsey relayed to Mr. Petet that Emailed4U.com, who was contracted with
LA Aluminum and sent the original email ad, had broken into the main database
at Langley/ NASA Air Force Base and had messed up NASA spoolers, etc. Mr.
Dorsey said he was working undercover to put a stop to such events from
happening.  He went onto report that Emailed4U.com had sent more than 400+ of
these email ads all over Langley Airforce Base and that NASA was very upset
and ready to take action.  He further stated that at twelve-noon he (Mr.
Dorsey) was turning everything over to the government for prosecution and
restitution.  

At approximately 11:00am I, Christine Bentley, owner of Emailed4U.com,
contacted Scott B. Dorsey at 757-864-4056 to further assist him in any way
possible to resolve this issue.  Mr. Dorsey again led me to believe that he
was the Head of Security for NASA. He said, "I only have two questions for
you.  1st. Question- Why are you sending HTML?"  I replied, "Because the
client who contracted with us wanted to send graphically enriched text."  Mr.
Dorsey replied, "2nd. Question- How did you get these addressees?"  I
replied, "Sir that's what I would like to know."  Mr. Dorsey than said GOOD
BYE... and hung up.

After this conversation with Mr. Dorsey something didn't seem right, so I
contacted NASA and eventually spoke with Mr. Steve Peyton at 202-358-019,
Head of NASA Security.  Mr. Peyton was willing to listen and investigate.  I
offered to send a copy of the email ad and copies of the entire list of the
5,000 email addressees we, Emailed4U.com sent on LA Aluminum's' behalf.

After further investigation, I found out that Scott B. Dorsey is simply an
employee of Computer Science Corporation. CSC is contracted with many
different companies including the following, NASA, Lockheed Martin, AT&T and
United Technologies to name only a few.

If this was simply a way for Mr. Dorsey to vent anger about receiving an
email ad that he opted into receive, that this is completely unacceptable.  
Something needs to be done for this has affected Emailed4U.com and my
reputation a great deal.  If no one, including Mr. Scott Dorsey, can show
documentation that can support these serious allegations that have been made
against Emailed4U.com, I would ask that immediate action be taken from all
involved parties.  I know that it is a serious crime to impersonate a
government official.

A more detailed report is attached concerning Mr. Scott B. Dorsey.

I want to express my thanks to Mr. Peyton for any and all help he has and can
give me in this matter.  I am sending this information to the following: Mr.
Steve Peyton, Mr. Bob Petet and also to Computer Science Corporation.  I
would appreciate any further assistance in resolving this issue.  

Sincerely,

Christine Bentley
Emailed4U.com
2182 Lake Marion Drive
Apopka, FL 32703
Phone # 407-464-1566
Fax # 407-464-1567

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Suresh Ramasubramanian  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
From: mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
Scott Dorsey proclaimed in
<8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>:

>Check this one out!
>From: Emaile...@aol.com
>more than 400+ of these email ads all over Langley Airforce
>Base and that NASA was very upset and ready to take action.

Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

>If this was simply a way for Mr. Dorsey to vent anger about
>receiving an email ad that he opted into receive, that this
>is completely unacceptable.  Something needs to be done for
>this has affected Emailed4U.com and my reputation a great

I'll bet the local chickens run for cover as soon as they see
her - she's such a stereotyped John Q. Chickenboner
^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ethikul biznizwoman.

I wonder what her "power dressing" is - thousand island I
expect ;)

--
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mallet @ cluestick.org + You spamma my mailbox, I nukea Da Ass


 
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Sharkman  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
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From: Sharkman <t.earlywineNOt.S...@giantsfan.com.invalid>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
her story sounds just like spamdrew's about a spam-nazi dressing
as a State Patrolman and watching his house.

- Tom R. Earlywine
Opinions presented are just my personal opinions.
Neighborhood watch member #10 - Junior Lumber cartel member #1010
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James W.  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
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From: James W. <a_jedikni...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
  klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> Check this one out!
<<snip>>
> Christine Bentley
> Emailed4U.com
> 2182 Lake Marion Drive
> Apopka, FL 32703
> Phone # 407-464-1566
> Fax # 407-464-1567

Also note that the very first banner on Emailed4U.com says
"We have more than 64 million opt-in email addresses Gathered from over
150 leading Web sites!"

How can they be opt-in if they are gathered from websites?

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Death,
and Hell followed with him. -Rev 6:8

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Ron Ritzman  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
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From: Ron Ritzman <rritz...@mindspring.com>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
On 25 May 2000 14:17:28 GMT, klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
wrote:

>Clearly, I didn't claim to be the 'head of security' for any other
>'computer intelligence' division (and surely if I were going to lie I
>could have thought up something a lot less silly than that)

So first we have spammers acting like kooks and now we have
spammers portraying you as a kook when you complain. How long
will it be before we start seeing BS like this...

a...@isp.com: *calls spammer*. "Hello, this is Mr. Anti. I am
head of security for isp.com. I wish to discuss that spam you
sent to 500,000 of my users last night. It crashed 5 of my mail
servers you know.

Spammer: *BUDDA* *BUDDA* *BUDDA* FREA SPEACH *WONKA* *WONKA*
*WONKA* JUST DELETE *BOINGA* *BOINGA* *BOINGA* COST OF A FREE
SOCIETY *ZORGA* *ZORGA* ZORGA* YES ALL 500,000 OF THEM OPTED IN
*YADDA* *YADDA* *YADDA* YOU ANTI-COMMERCE NET TERRORISTS JUST
WANT THE NET TO YOURSELVES <CLICK>

a...@isp.com: *calls spammer's provider, tells them about the
spam etc.*

Spammer: *to his provider* Yes, Mr. Anti called me. He claimed to
be an Agent for Starfleet security and that he has come back in
time to stop my ethical opt-in email campaign. Apparently my
campaign will trigger a chain of events that will lead to a
takeover of the Federation by the Packleds. Furthermore, I hired
a PI to investigate Mr. Anti and it turns out that he is not the
head of security for isp.com. (or Starfleet for that matter) This
guy has a few screws loose and I suggest you ignore his
"complaint".

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Mike Andrews  
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 More options May 25 2000, 3:00 am
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From: mi...@mikea.ath.cx (Mike Andrews)
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
Scripsit James W. <a_jedikni...@my-deja.com>:
: In article <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
:   klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
:> Check this one out!
: <<snip>>
:> Christine Bentley
:> Emailed4U.com
:> 2182 Lake Marion Drive
:> Apopka, FL 32703
:> Phone # 407-464-1566
:> Fax # 407-464-1567
:>

: Also note that the very first banner on Emailed4U.com says
: "We have more than 64 million opt-in email addresses Gathered from over
: 150 leading Web sites!"

: How can they be opt-in if they are gathered from websites?

Well, _Obviously_ they have lots of websites that do nothing but ask
people to fill in the form so that they can receive vallable infor^W^W^W
be spammed. What else could that mean?

Rule #1 and Rule #3.

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Sarah  
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From: Sarah <solita...@earthling.net>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!

"James W." wrote:
> Also note that the very first banner on Emailed4U.com says
> "We have more than 64 million opt-in email addresses Gathered from over
> 150 leading Web sites!"

> How can they be opt-in if they are gathered from websites?

Those are the sites where you sign up for updates on a
program or game you've just bought, or where you ask to be
notified when the site is updated... evidently some website
operators believe that since site visitors "opt-in" to
receiving their updates, they're _also_ agreeing having
their address sold to spammers.

This is an abuse of the opt-in permission: just because I
want to be alerted when an interesting website is updated
doesn't mean I'm _ALSO_ giving permission to that website
operator to sell my address on a mailing list.


 
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Spam Sucks Bigtime  
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From: Spam Sucks Bigtime <spamsucksbigt...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
CC: Christine Bentley <Emaile...@aol.com>
Based on Mr. Dorsey's published report, since you opened up
Pandora's Box on this, you may wish to reply in the
Newsgroup: news.admin.net-abuse.email
There's a quite lively discussion brewing about you.

The ORIGINAL post by Scott Dorsey I replied to is here:
Text format:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=627172381&fmt=text
HTML format:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=627172381

In article <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
  klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> Check this one out!

> I run machines at a small government site, and we got
> spammed by LA Aluminum.

[Complete post below my thoughts]

Scott,

I appreciate the humor in this very much indeed, and thank
you for sharing. :)

However, there is a serious side to this. Based on your
report, in the Spammer's zeal to blame-shift, an all-too
common symptom of terminal Spammers I might add, their
falsehoods could be actionable by your agency, or you
personally.

If you feel this appropriate, run this event by your Guvmint
attorney and let us know the results. At a minimum, if it
was me, I would fire back an abuse complaint for the false
accusations from the Spammer, introducing them once again to
my LART-O-MATIC Whack-a-Moler (tm, Gallagher). :)

IMO, Spammers need to learn our society demands a certain
level of behavior, and Spamming, then making up bovine
excrement in a feeble attempt to blame-shift or discredit
the complainant, will not be tolerated. Free-speech does not
include this, but I guess Spammers think they can say
anything to anyone, including 3 million E-mail addresses at
a time, if they so desire.

There can indeed be justice, but it does takes work.

Tanky,

^S|S|B^

Spammers are verminous rodentia!

From: klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: The Spammers are After Me!
Date: 25 May 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <8gjclo$46g$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>
Organization: Institute for Boatanchor Studies
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email

Check this one out!

I run machines at a small government site, and we got spammed by LA
Aluminum.
I also got a spam here on my netcom account.  I called the folks there
up
and explained the issue, and they were pretty polite and helpful,
actually.
So then they had the spam company call me.

I talked to Christeine Bentley at Email For You (407-464-1566), and as
always, I told the spammer that I'd hang up as soon as she lied, and I
did so.

Anyway, the spam company then sent the following message on to their
customer, which I find absolutely hilarious.  Sorry it took me so long
to
forward this on....

Clearly, I didn't claim to be the 'head of security' for any other
'computer intelligence' division (and surely if I were going to lie I
could have thought up something a lot less silly than that), but on
the whole most of the stuff they list is accurate information, just
twisted
in a pretty amazing way.  (Oh yes, the Air Force Base and NASA/Langley
are also totally different organizations and so someone is a bit
confused).

I have no clue what was in the attachment cited, since it was some huge
Word document, and it's obviously not repeated here.

Anyway, I thought you guys would get a kick out of this stuff.  Don't
piss
off spammers or you might get investigated like I did <mild chuckle>.

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I don't know how they got this but thought you might want to know, it
has been faxed, E-mailed to two location that I have seen today.

Bob

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April 27, 2000

Dear Sirs:

Subject: Scott B. Dorsey

I have done research on the events that lead to my contacting you and
have
the following information to report:

An individual email was sent to Scott B. Dorsey at Klu...@netcom.com in
regards to his interest in Aerospace. This individual, after receiving
the
email was angry and called LA Aluminum and portrayed to be the Head of
Security of NASA- Computer Intelligence Division.  LA Aluminum put Mr.
Dorsey
in touch with Bob Petet from Sales Creators.  Sales Creators has been
contracted by LA Aluminum to help with their marketing.

Mr. Dorsey relayed to Mr. Petet that Emailed4U.com, who was contracted
with
LA Aluminum and sent the original email ad, had broken into the main
database
at Langley/ NASA Air Force Base and had messed up NASA spoolers, etc.
Mr.
Dorsey said he was working undercover to put a stop to such events from
happening.  He went onto report that Emailed4U.com had sent more than
400+ of
these email ads all over Langley Airforce Base and that NASA was very
upset
and ready to take action.  He further stated that at twelve-noon he (Mr.
Dorsey) was turning everything over to the government for prosecution
and
restitution.

At approximately 11:00am I, Christine Bentley, owner of Emailed4U.com,
contacted Scott B. Dorsey at 757-864-4056 to further assist him in any
way
possible to resolve this issue.  Mr. Dorsey again led me to believe that
he
was the Head of Security for NASA. He said, "I only have two questions
for
you.  1st. Question- Why are you sending HTML?"  I replied, "Because the
client who contracted with us wanted to send graphically enriched text."
 Mr.
Dorsey replied, "2nd. Question- How did you get these addressees?"  I
replied, "Sir that's what I would like to know."  Mr. Dorsey than said
GOOD
BYE... and hung up.

After this conversation with Mr. Dorsey something didn't seem right, so
I
contacted NASA and eventually spoke with Mr. Steve Peyton at
202-358-019,
Head of NASA Security.  Mr. Peyton was willing to listen and
investigate.  I
offered to send a copy of the email ad and copies of the entire list of
the
5,000 email addressees we, Emailed4U.com sent on LA Aluminum's' behalf.

After further investigation, I found out that Scott B. Dorsey is simply
an
employee of Computer Science Corporation. CSC is contracted with many
different companies including the following, NASA, Lockheed Martin, AT&T
and
United Technologies to name only a few.

If this was simply a way for Mr. Dorsey to vent anger about receiving an
email ad that he opted into receive, that this is completely
unacceptable.
Something needs to be done for this has affected Emailed4U.com and my
reputation a great deal.  If no one, including Mr. Scott Dorsey, can
show
documentation that can support these serious allegations that have been
made
against Emailed4U.com, I would ask that immediate action be taken from
all
involved parties.  I know that it is a serious crime to impersonate a
government official.

A more detailed report is attached concerning Mr. Scott B. Dorsey.

I want to express my thanks to Mr. Peyton for any and all help he has
and can
give me in this matter.  I am sending this information to the following:
Mr.
Steve Peyton, Mr. Bob Petet and also to Computer Science Corporation.  I
would appreciate any further assistance in resolving this issue.

Sincerely,

Christine Bentley
Emailed4U.com
2182 Lake Marion Drive
Apopka, FL 32703
Phone # 407-464-1566
Fax # 407-464-1567

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From: c.c....@89.usenet.us.com (Errol)
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8inqiskr8q3o7buh00liq8eah5ehnee...@4ax.com>,
Ron Ritzman  <rritz...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Spammer: *to his provider* Yes, Mr. Anti called me. He claimed to
>be an Agent for Starfleet security and that he has come back in
>time to stop my ethical opt-in email campaign. Apparently my
>campaign will trigger a chain of events that will lead to a
>takeover of the Federation by the Packleds. Furthermore, I hired
>a PI to investigate Mr. Anti and it turns out that he is not the
>head of security for isp.com. (or Starfleet for that matter) This
>guy has a few screws loose and I suggest you ignore his
>"complaint".

I dunno if we have to wait at all.  You've modelled the actual
scenario perfectly as far as I can tell.

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From: frederi...@aol.com (Frederick the amateur spam killer)
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>, klu...@netcom.com (Scott

Dorsey) writes:
>Christine Bentley
>Emailed4U.com
>2182 Lake Marion Drive
>Apopka, FL 32703
>Phone # 407-464-1566
>Fax # 407-464-1567

They claim to have targeted "opt-in" mailing lists.
Of course, we all know just how accurate those lists
are, don't we? (tinw).

I show nothing in Deja News on them.

Emailed4U.com

Addresses: 207.155.252.14 207.155.252.72 207.155.248.7 207.155.248.4

   Emailed4U.com
   2182 Lake Marion Drive
   Apopka, FL 32703
   US

   Registrar..: Register.com (http://www.register.com)
   Domain Name: EMAILED4U.COM
      Created on..............: Mon, Mar 13, 2000
      Expires on..............: Tue, Mar 13, 2001
      Record last updated on..: Sun, May 21, 2000

   Administrative Contact:
      Bentley, David  Ad...@emailed4u.com
      407-464-1566
   Technical Contact:
      Bentley, David  Ad...@emailed4u.com
      407-464-1566
   Zone Contact:
      Bentley, David  Ad...@emailed4u.com
      407-464-1566

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS1.CNCHOST.COM                                   207.155.248.5    
   NS2.CNCHOST.COM                                   207.155.252.5    

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From: keith <kehe...@stinkfoot.com>
Date: 2000/05/25
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> Scott Dorsey proclaimed in
> <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>:

> >Check this one out!

> >From: Emaile...@aol.com

> >more than 400+ of these email ads all over Langley Airforce
> >Base and that NASA was very upset and ready to take action.

> Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

if you want could flag down a couple for you.. they've been sighted
recently near my home.

http://www.readingeagle.com/re/news/3192796.HTM

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From: "Spam Buster" <maps_bus...@hotmail.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
Hmmmm... 64 million... familiar number... that's the number of e-mail
addresses the sellers of e-mail addresses on CD-ROM claim to have!!!

"James W." <a_jedikni...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

news:8gjo73$ifq$1@nnrp1.deja.com...


 
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From: SPAMJAMR <letzta...@aol.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8gjo73$if...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  James W. <a_jedikni...@my-deja.com> wrote:
[snip]

> Also note that the very first banner on Emailed4U.com says
> "We have more than 64 million opt-in email addresses Gathered from
over
> 150 leading Web sites!"

> How can they be opt-in if they are gathered from websites?

That over 426,000 per web site! How many web sites have that many
addy's? Maybe they hit some web poison sites.

me thinks the bitch doth lie too much.

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From: frederi...@aol.com (Frederick the amateur spam killer)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <1a89ba88.4ff44...@usw-ex0104-032.remarq.com>, Sharkman

<t.earlywineNOt.S...@giantsfan.com.invalid> writes:
>her story sounds just like spamdrew's about a spam-nazi dressing
>as a State Patrolman and watching his house.

I was nowhere NEAR spamdrew's house that day!!

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From: Rob Mitchell <icaeru...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <20000526003328.02224.00001...@nso-fj.aol.com>,
  frederi...@aol.com (Frederick the amateur spam killer) wrote:

> In article <1a89ba88.4ff44...@usw-ex0104-032.remarq.com>, Sharkman
> <t.earlywineNOt.S...@giantsfan.com.invalid> writes:

> >her story sounds just like spamdrew's about a spam-nazi dressing
> >as a State Patrolman and watching his house.

> I was nowhere NEAR spamdrew's house that day!!

I was.

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From: Inigo.Mont...@The.Princess.Bride (Inigo Montoya)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!

Ron Ritzman wrote:
>Spammer: *BUDDA* *BUDDA* *BUDDA* FREA SPEACH *WONKA* *WONKA*
>*WONKA* JUST DELETE *BOINGA* *BOINGA* *BOINGA* COST OF A FREE
>SOCIETY *ZORGA* *ZORGA* ZORGA* YES ALL 500,000 OF THEM OPTED IN
>*YADDA* *YADDA* *YADDA* YOU ANTI-COMMERCE NET TERRORISTS JUST
>WANT THE NET TO YOURSELVES <CLICK>

Wait.  I need a clarification.  Did the anti call a spammer or a PacMan
game?

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From: Rob Mitchell <icaeru...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8gjclo$46...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>,
  klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

From Christine Bentley:

> If this was simply a way for Mr. Dorsey to vent anger about receiving an
> email ad that he opted into receive, that this is completely unacceptable.

<nudge-nudge-wink-wink> Oh, I'm so "sure" Mr. Dorsey "opted" to receive
it, uh-huh. </nudge-nudge-wink-wink>

> Something needs to be done for this has affected Emailed4U.com and my
> reputation a great deal.

Ms. Bentley's spamming is what has affected her & her bulk-mail-
shack's...er, I mean, her company's reputation.  And something indeed
should be done:  LART the b*tch off the surface of the planet.

Rob

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From: mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
keith proclaimed in <392DD02D.97B49...@stinkfoot.com>:

>Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

>> Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

>if you want could flag down a couple for you.. they've been
>sighted recently near my home.
>http://www.readingeagle.com/re/news/3192796.HTM

Naw, am in India - those 'copters won't have more than a
couple of hundred miles range.  Any chickenboners near your
place?  Is that the Reading in PA, btw?  IIRC there is a
spammer or two in your town (or nearby).

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From: keith h <kehe...@stinkfoot.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> keith proclaimed in <392DD02D.97B49...@stinkfoot.com>:

> >Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> >> Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

> >if you want could flag down a couple for you.. they've been
> >sighted recently near my home.
> >http://www.readingeagle.com/re/news/3192796.HTM

> Naw, am in India - those 'copters won't have more than a
> couple of hundred miles range.

not with air to air refueling..  using black kc-10 tankers of course..

> Any chickenboners near your
> place?  Is that the Reading in PA, btw?  IIRC there is a
> spammer or two in your town (or nearby).

i don't know of any chickenboners from around this area.. reading is a
small city of around 80,000, most of whom wouldn't know a modem from a
brick.  the surrounding county is mostly farmers and coal crackers.

an hour's drive to the northeast from here will get you in
chickenbrunner's neck of the trailerpark.

hmm, those helicopters could have gotten lost looking for andy's place..
maybe got bad directions from a state trooper or something and ended up
down here instead...

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From: row...@access.netaxs.com (Tony Rowley)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8F40A6A23mal...@cluestick.org> mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian) writes:

>keith proclaimed in <392DD02D.97B49...@stinkfoot.com>:

>>Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

>>> Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

>>if you want could flag down a couple for you.. they've been
>>sighted recently near my home.
>>http://www.readingeagle.com/re/news/3192796.HTM

>Naw, am in India - those 'copters won't have more than a
>couple of hundred miles range.  Any chickenboners near your
>place?  Is that the Reading in PA, btw?  IIRC there is a
>spammer or two in your town (or nearby).

 Reading is well within the service radius of any black helicopters flying
around the Nazareth area. There are all sorts of places one could land a
helo in the area; Pennsylvania's laws are pretty liberal regarding what
can be used as a landing area [if it meets minimum safety requirements and
the property owner says so, then it's okay - more or less].

 I don't know of any chickenboners in the Reading area, personally. There
was a spammer-haven ISP in Wilkes-Barre further north, but they seem to
have been acquired by someone else or something - haven't seen hide nor
hair out of them in quite some time. There -does- seem to be a small
spammer colony in the vicinity of Effort PA, which is northeast of
Reading, but otherwise...

 [note: if it has to do with aviation in eastern Pennsylvania, if I don't
know it I can easily find out, speaking as a 20-year CAPer who's been on
more ELT searches than I can remember at this point.]
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From: mi...@mikea.ath.cx (Mike Andrews)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
Scripsit Tony Rowley <row...@access.netaxs.com>:

:                            ... speaking as a 20-year CAPer who's been on
: more ELT searches than I can remember at this point.]

Dear me! First the SCAdians, now the SilverWare Patrol!

OK, folks, how many current or former SilverWare Patrol members in
this 'froup?

<hand>

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From: mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
Tony Rowley proclaimed in <8glrhf$...@netaxs.com>:

>In article <8F40A6A23mal...@cluestick.org>
>mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
>writes:
>>couple of hundred miles range.  Any chickenboners near your
>>place?  Is that the Reading in PA, btw?  IIRC there is a
>>spammer or two in your town (or nearby).
> Reading is well within the service radius of any black
> helicopters flying around the Nazareth area.

Ya, I thought so ... They _were_ after Spamdrew. Those helos
carry vulcan miniguns, iirc (or at least that's what I see in
all those Jack Ryan movies - Clear and Present Danger, say).  
Modern versions of the civil war Gatlings, with an awesome
firepower.

Oh btw, someone fire the dumb air traffic controller who
misdirected those helos (tandatcwmth) _and_ let the newspapers
find out about 'em.  Black Helos are supposed to be s00p3r
s3kr1t, for $deity's sake :)

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From: Rob Mitchell <icaeru...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/05/26
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!
In article <8F40A6A23mal...@cluestick.org>,
  mal...@cluestick.org.I.Kill.Spammers (Suresh Ramasubramanian) wrote:

> keith proclaimed in <392DD02D.97B49...@stinkfoot.com>:

> >Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> >> Whistle up the black helicopters!!!!

> >if you want could flag down a couple for you.. they've been
> >sighted recently near my home.
> >http://www.readingeagle.com/re/news/3192796.HTM

> Naw, am in India - those 'copters won't have more than a
> couple of hundred miles range.  Any chickenboners near your
> place?  Is that the Reading in PA, btw?  IIRC there is a
> spammer or two in your town (or nearby).

There's a self-proclaimed spam-enabler & anti-Net-Nazi who sells br0ken
mass-mail software about 60 miles to the northeast as the helicopter,
er, I mean, the crow flies.

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From: Inigo.Mont...@The.Princess.Bride (Inigo Montoya)
Date: 2000/05/28
Subject: Re: The Spammers are After Me!

Tony Rowley wrote:
>There are all sorts of places one could land a helo in the area;

Connected to 127.34.41.54 (loser.trailerpark.hitch)
HELO black_helicopter
Hello black_helicopter.  Want to send some spam today?
MAIL FROM: black_helicopter.LART
Ok.
RCPT TO: chickenbo...@loser.trailerpark.hitch
Ok.
DATA

*LART*
.

Ok.  Ow, that hurt.
QUIT
Closing connection.

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