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Rick Blackthorn  
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 More options May 16 2003, 2:11 pm
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From: Rick Blackthorn <p_spin...@cluestick.org>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:10:22 -0500
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
On Fri, 16 May 2003 08:30:58 -0400, "McWebber" <mcweb...@my-deja.com>
posted:

I use a couple of the rfc-ignorant lists to block email to this
account.

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Andrzej Filip  
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 More options May 16 2003, 2:15 pm
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From: Andrzej Filip <a...@Box43.pl>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:02:25 +0000
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?

McWebber wrote:
> And those using rfc-ignorant.org to reject mail should be listed in
> really-ignorant.org DNSBL

Which specific lists provided by rfc-ignorant.org are so bad ?
IMHO  DSN, postmaster and ipwhois are good candidates for rbl use.

BTW You are free to create really-ignorant.org if you want.
Success of such service would surprise me :-)

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Andrzej Filip  
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 More options May 16 2003, 2:15 pm
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From: Andrzej Filip <a...@Box43.pl>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:03:48 +0000
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?

Ignoramus16316 wrote:
> In article <3EC4DD18.8000...@Andrzej.Adam.Filip>, Andrzej Filip wrote:
>[...]
>> Does your sendmail act as a gateway between internet and internal email system
>> (or as a secondary MX) ?

> Yes, I have a relay mailserver, that's the issue.
> [...]

Can you easily get lis of all valid email adresses in internal server ?

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Wm James  
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 More options May 16 2003, 4:32 pm
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From: Wm James <wrjames.rem...@spamreaper.org>
Date: 16 May 2003 15:32:24 -0500
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
On 16 May 2003 16:33:55 GMT, Ignoramus16316

Does he have a page host?  Or a drop box?

William R. James


 
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Morely 'Shirley you jest!' Dotes  
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 More options May 16 2003, 4:39 pm
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From: "Morely 'Shirley you jest!' Dotes" <MorelyDo...@spamblocked.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:39:33 GMT
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Ignoramus16316 <ignoramus16...@NOSPAM.16316.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnbc9mgn.ktk.ignoramus16316@manifold.algebra.com:

> I need an answer to my question, not an altopia flame.

It's just too easy...

Seriously, why are you accepting mail for bogus users?

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Morely 'Shirley you jest!' Dotes  
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 More options May 16 2003, 5:25 pm
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From: "Morely 'Shirley you jest!' Dotes" <MorelyDo...@spamblocked.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:25:25 GMT
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Ignoramus16316 <ignoramus16...@NOSPAM.16316.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnbc9p5b.ktk.ignoramus16316@manifold.algebra.com:

> The problem is that I have my home computer, which IS mydomain.com,
> and my colocated host, which is my mail server among other things, BUT
> it does not have the same accounts. So emails sent to
> myw...@mydomain.com go through my mailserver,which relays them to my
> home box. So for all those bounces going to fake addresses, they have
> to be accepted at the mailserver, queued, the server would then talk
> to my home box, get a rejection, and then send a rejection back to
> <>. Very expensive.

Set up the real acconts on the mail server, and have your home system query
for new mail via POP3.  It ain't that hard.

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Fodder  
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 More options May 16 2003, 6:34 pm
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From: 7j7485...@sneakemail.com (Fodder)
Date: 16 May 2003 15:34:59 -0700
Local: Fri, May 16 2003 6:34 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?

Ignoramus18126 <ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.18126.invalid> wrote in message <news:slrnbc8k4d.odp.ignoramus18126@manifold.algebra.com>...
> I would like, temporarily, for a couple of weeks to block all email
> from <>, however I do not know how to do it with access.txt. Any
> ideas?

   I dunno if this will help, but I made a ruleset to reject all messages
without a fully qualified address in the To: field - so messages with To's
like "Valued Customer" don't get re-written to "Valued@firewall.<mydomain>".
I figure nobody from outside my domain should ever be using a To: without
an @domain part. Here's what I put in my sendmail.cf:

SCheckTo
R$+ , $+                $@ $>LookupHeaderUser $1
#R$*                    $@ $>LookupHeaderUser $1
R$+ @ $+                $@ $>LookupHeaderUser $1
R$*                     $#error $: 553 Header Error no domain name in To:

   The commented out line is what used to be the catch-all, and I just replaced
it with a rule to say "something@something" should be checked, but anything
else (messages with no @domain part) should be bounced.

   Ok, so I get a FEW rejections of possibly legit email because some
email clients use a To: of "Undisclosed-Recipients:;" if all the recipient
addresses are in the Bcc line. (shrug) I don't care 'bout them and this
blocks a ton of spam.

   Oh, wait, you said it was *from* <> huh.  Ok, so you could probably put in
a similar rule for the SCheckFrom ruleset too.  In fact, I've been meaning to
but just haven't gotten to it.

   'Hope this is helpful to someone... :-)

Fodder


 
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Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.  
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 More options May 19 2003, 6:48 pm
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From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <lshel...@creighton.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:48:15 -0500
Local: Mon, May 19 2003 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Thus spake Ignoramus16316 on Fri, 16 May 2003:

> I need an answer to my question, not an altopia flame.

OK, go ahead and ask it, let's see what happens.

 
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Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.  
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 More options May 22 2003, 10:42 am
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From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <lshel...@creighton.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:41:09 -0500
Local: Thurs, May 22 2003 10:41 am
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Thus spake Ignoramus16316 on Fri, 16 May 2003:

> I need an answer to my question, not an altopia flame.

Go for it.  What is your question?

 
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Dolphin  
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 More options May 22 2003, 2:15 pm
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From: Dolphin <usenet-May+na...@2003.dolphinwave.org>
Date: 22 May 2003 18:15:11 GMT
Local: Thurs, May 22 2003 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
On Thu, 22 May 2003 09:41:09 -0500 Laurence F. Sheldon,  Jr. <lshel...@creighton.edu>

 wrote in message <Pine.HPX.4.53.0305220940430.14...@Bluejay.creighton.edu>:
> Thus spake Ignoramus16316 on Fri, 16 May 2003:

>> I need an answer to my question, not an altopia flame.

> Go for it.  What is your question?

What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?

Dolphin.

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Morely 'Richard With The Temper' Dotes  
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 More options May 22 2003, 3:08 pm
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From: "Morely 'Richard With The Temper' Dotes" <MorelyDo...@spamblocked.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:08:51 GMT
Local: Thurs, May 22 2003 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Dolphin <usenet-May+na...@2003.dolphinwave.org> wrote in
news:slrnbcq42k.ct3.usenet-May+nanae@orca.dolphinwave.org:

> What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?

A headache.

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Jean-David Beyer  
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 More options May 22 2003, 4:31 pm
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From: Jean-David Beyer <jdbe...@exit109.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:31:36 -0400
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Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?

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Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.  
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 More options May 22 2003, 4:37 pm
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From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <lshel...@creighton.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:37:32 -0500
Local: Thurs, May 22 2003 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Thus spake Dolphin on Thu, 22 May 2003:

> On Thu, 22 May 2003 09:41:09 -0500 Laurence F. Sheldon,  Jr. <lshel...@creighton.edu>
>  wrote in message <Pine.HPX.4.53.0305220940430.14...@Bluejay.creighton.edu>:
> > Thus spake Ignoramus16316 on Fri, 16 May 2003:

> >> I need an answer to my question, not an altopia flame.

> > Go for it.  What is your question?

> What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?

A headache.

 
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Clifton T. Sharp Jr.  
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 More options May 23 2003, 2:15 pm
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From: "Clifton T. Sharp Jr." <cli...@clifto.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 13:11:06 -0500
Local: Fri, May 23 2003 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?

Dolphin wrote:
> What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?

The product of 6 and 9.

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Godwin Stewart  
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 More options May 23 2003, 2:38 pm
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From: Godwin Stewart <nob...@spamcop.net>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 20:38:49 +0200
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Subject: Re: How to disable messages from <> a.k.a MAILER_DAEMON?
Dolphin (usenet-May+na...@2003.dolphinwave.org) wrote to
news.admin.net-abuse.email on Thursday 22 May 2003 20:15 in message
<slrnbcq42k.ct3.usenet-May+na...@orca.dolphinwave.org>:

> What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?

Uhh... 666,666,666.
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