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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:51:59 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 10:51 am
Subject: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
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Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

The charges:

        Burstnet have deliberately facilitated abuse of the Internet.

        Burstnet have been given every opportunity to remove
        their spammers, and have failed to take advantage of those
        opportunities.

        Burstnet have repeatedly lied to the Internet about their
        spammers.

        Burstnet have aided and abetted their spammers by listwashing
        and have thus further abused innocent members of the Internet
        by handing the addresses of complainers over to spammers.

        Burstnet have threatened members of the Internet who requested
        that Burstnet conform to minimal acceptable standards of behaviour.

        Burstnet claim not to be able to control their own network.

        Burstnet have continued to profit from the abuse of the Internet,
        to this very day.  (This includes continuing to host the
        well-known, block-on-sight spammers of Azoogle.)

        Burstnet have only taken token action against spammers, and then
        only in response to widespread DNSBL listing of their network.
        They have refused to be pro-active, have refused to heed warnings
        about spammers signing up for their services, and refused to
        remove known spammers.

        Burstnet have, by their irresponsible conduct, willfully deprived
        their legitimate customers of the services that they paid for.

        Burstnet have deliberately aided and abetted this ongoing abuse
        of the entire Internet.

        Burstnet have done all this despite being repeatedly told that
        it is unacceptable behaviour, and being repeatedly asked to stop.

The evidence:

        Copious evidence substantiating all of the above may be found here:

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=bu...

        and here:

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=ho...

        and here:

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=az...

        and here:

        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=az...

        and here:

        http://www.spews.org/html/S421.html

        and here:

        http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/spammers.lasso?-database=spammers.db&-l...

        and here:

        http://www.aboutspam.com/spamhaus.php

        and here:

        http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-geeks/2003-January/004046.html

        among many other places.  See also the following quotes:

        Shawn Arcus admits supporting the Azoogle spammers:

                "We know they [azoogle] are legit, because our staff
                wrote the actual software their service runs on."
                --- Shawn Arcus, CEO of Burstnet.

        Shawn Arcus defends his spam-friendly operation:

                "SPEWS is sorely mistaken if they think they can change
                the operations of the largest web hosting companies in
                the world."
                --- Shawn Arcus, CEO of Burstnet.

        Eric D. Jarman abuses and insults a victim of Burstnet's abuse:

                "Listen pal, I don't dare assume to read your mind. I
                do not have time for your stupid games. There are many
                people: that receive junk mail unsolicited. They are many
                people; that forget that receiving commerical email is
                not against the law if they requested it."
                --- Eric D. Jarman, "Network Abuse", Burstnet.

        Shawn Arcus pleads incompetence as a defence:

                "We do not control what users/domains our dedicated server
                clients set up on their leased machines. We can kick off
                a spammer from one machine, and he may appear the next
                week on a complately different client's machine. We have
                no control over that, and there is no way we possibly
                could control that."
                --- Shawn Arcus, CEO of Burstnet.

        Shawn Arcus refuses to address the Azoogle issue and looks for "incentives"
        to remove spammers:

                "We have spent 2-3 months now cleaning up our network,
                and have removed a ton of spammers/abusers. Every
                single listing in SPEWS S421 has been removed and/or
                dealt with besides Azoogle. And yet, SPEWS has not
                updated/delisted/removed any of the records. What
                incentive do we have to continue to deal with such,
                or to work towards a resolution on the Azoogle issue?"
                --- Shawn Arcus, CEO of Burstnet.

        Other self-incriminating quotes may be found at the URIs
        referenced above.

The verdict:

        There is no need or reason to tolerate the behaviour of rogue
        ISPs such as Burstnet, who have engaged in long-term, large-scale
        abuse of the entire Internet.  There is therefore no longer any
        reason for the Internet to accept Burstnet traffic, nor send any.
        There is, however, need and reason for the civilised portion
        of the Internet to protect itself from the abuse which Burstnet
        knowingly and directly facilitates for profit.

The sentence:

        I therefore call for the null-routing of all IP space
        assigned to Burstnet starting at 1200 UTC on 10 July 2003.
        This null-routing shall be extended to any IP address or IP
        block found to be allocated for Burstnet after that time,
        and shall continue until all IP space controlled by Burstnet is
        returned to ARIN for reallocation.

        These blocks include:

        CIDR                    NetHandle               NetName
        66.96.192.0/18          NET-66-96-192-0-1       HOSTNOC
        66.197.128.0/17         NET-66-197-128-0-1      HOSTNOC-2BLK
        64.191.0.0/17           NET-64-191-0-0-1        HOSTNOC-3BLK

Why this is anonymous:

        First, because this statement should stand or fall on its own
        merits, and that of the referenced evidence.  Who I am, or am not,
        is unimportant and irrelevant.

        Second, Burstnet's past history clearly indicates a strong
        preference for avoiding issues and focusing instead on those
        who have highlighted those issues.  This focus usually consists
        of abuse, insults, and other attacks (see quote above from
        the aptly-named Burstnet "abuse" personnel).  I decline to
        furnish Burstnet with the opportunity to distract attention
        from their own conduct.

Addendum 1:

The burst.blackholes.us DNS zone may be useful to those wishing to
participate in this IDP.  See http://www.blackholes.us.

Addendum 2:

Eric Jarman is apparently no longer employed by Burstnet, and has
subsequently apologized for his comments quoted above.

Addendum 3:

Clarification: it is the intention that this should be permanent.

Burstnet have handsomely profited, for many years, from large-scale abuse
of the entire Internet, and have already exhausted all of their chances
to stop the abuse, publicly apologize for the abuse, and disgorge all of
their ill-gotten income from the abuse.  (They have been given chance after
chance after chance after chance to do this, and they have done nothing.)
Intead, they have actively aided and abetted the abuse, and continued to
reap the profits made from it.  They have compounded this by repeatedly
lying to and insulting the same community that they have abused.

They have thus exhausted their supply of chances, and the Internet
community need not extend them any more.  Burstnet's future actions, if
any, are irrelevant: their past actions are already constitute more than
sufficient basis to disallow all Burstnet traffic from this day forward.

Therefore, the intention is that this null-routing should be permanent,
and should NOT be removed until all network blocks allocated to Burstnet
are returned for reallocation.

There remains, of course, the chance that Burstnet may attempt an
an eleventh-hour token gesture of some kind cynically designed to
forestall this action.  The Internet community should not be taken in by
this subterfuge: the long and abusive past history of Burstnet clearly
indicates that they cannot and should not be trusted.  Those kind-hearted
and well-meaning members of the community who might be inclined to do
otherwise should be reminded that Burstnet have already declined to
act when given numerous chances to do so, and thus any action they may
claim to be taking now is, at best, a sham designed to take advantage,
once again, of the good will and generosity of the community.

The community should not give them that opportunity.

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Jon Newton  
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 More options Jul 30 2003, 11:46 am
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From: Jon Newton <n3wt0n_...@yah00.c0m>
Date: 30 Jul 2003 15:46:20 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
<snip>

Excellent post!

We've long had Burstnet/Hostnoc blacklisted. I've included your post in
our local archives should the issue of unlisting  Burstnet/Hostnoc ever
come up.

Thank you.

Jon Newton


 
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:11:49 -0500
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Jon Newton wrote:
> <snip>

> Excellent post!

> We've long had Burstnet/Hostnoc blacklisted. I've included your post
> in our local archives should the issue of unlisting  Burstnet/Hostnoc
> ever come up.

> Thank you.

> Jon Newton

They ended their contract with azoogle effect July 31....

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 More options Jul 30 2003, 1:52 pm
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From: ke...@uppitychick.net (Kelly Molloy)
Date: 30 Jul 2003 17:52:23 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
In article <20030730115159.GA11...@example.com>, OldG...@example.com says...

>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
death penalty" existed.

--kelly


 
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From: "Ste...@my-deja.com" <ste...@my-deja.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:49:27 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
On 30 Jul 2003 17:52:23 GMT, ke...@uppitychick.net (Kelly Molloy)
wrote:

>This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
>death penalty" existed.

Mebbe we should start one.  We can get our own special electric chair,
all that.  Keep it right in the lobby here at NANAE.  

 
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From: Andrew <and...@lod.com>
Date: 30 Jul 2003 14:10:58 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Kelly Molloy <ke...@uppitychick.net> wrote:
> In article <20030730115159.GA11...@example.com>, OldG...@example.com says...
>>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
> This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
> death penalty" existed.

Perhaps not so popular anymore, it nevertheless does
seem to exist..

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/i/Internet_Death_Penalty.html

http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/blocking.html#idp

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:12:30 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
Giblet - MN State Resident wrote:

> Jon Newton wrote:
> > <snip>

> > Excellent post!

> > We've long had Burstnet/Hostnoc blacklisted. I've included your post
> > in our local archives should the issue of unlisting  Burstnet/Hostnoc
> > ever come up.

> > Thank you.

> > Jon Newton

> They ended their contract with azoogle effect July 31....

There's really no evidence that Burstnet did anything.
Even if they did, what it amounted to was giving azoogle four weeks to find new hosting.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:35:18 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Well the concept exists, which is just a glorified "everyone should block
these guys".  I don't think it's very effective, I mean who was NOT blocking
Burstnet before, who is going to start blocking them just because of an IDP?
Anyone who would follow an IDP has surely blocked Burstnet a long time ago,
when they were actually at their lowest point of spam support.  The IDP has
been replaced by SPEWS, Spamhaus, et.al.

 
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Date: 30 Jul 2003 19:06:48 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Giblet - MN State Resident wrote:

July 31 is tomorrow. So they haven't ended anything just yet.

Regardless, we will at the very minimum keep them blacklisted until
August 1, 2004.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

late!
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:25:50 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:20:13 +0100, Cardinal SYN

<mailer-dae...@canismajor.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Mebbe we should start one.  We can get our own special electric chair,
>>all that.  Keep it right in the lobby here at NANAE.  

>Do a search on "Etherkiller" if you want some ideas.... I vote
>that we use the European-standard 415-volt three-phase version.

A high speed ram roast or would it be spam roast...

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:58:34 +1200
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Cardinal SYN <mailer-dae...@canismajor.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Do a search on "Etherkiller" if you want some ideas.... I vote
> that we use the European-standard 415-volt three-phase version.

Suits me. Now how about designing one for 802.11 networks?

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:06:41 -0000
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Cardinal SYN <mailer-dae...@canismajor.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Do a search on "Etherkiller" if you want some ideas.... I vote
>that we use the European-standard 415-volt three-phase version.

Please don't start up *that* thread again. *
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:17:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
ke...@uppitychick.net (Kelly Molloy) wrote in
news:bg90km$m7u4t$1@ID-178000.news.uni-berlin.de:

> In article <20030730115159.GA11...@example.com>, OldG...@example.com
> says...

>>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

> This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an
> "internet death penalty" existed.

those who fail to beleive in it are doomed to experience it.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:17:19 GMT
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Ste...@my-deja.com wrote in message ...
>Mebbe we should start one.  We can get our own special electric chair,
>all that.  Keep it right in the lobby here at NANAE.

Oh, couldn't it be out back in the equipment yard?  Right in the lobby means
everyone gets that smell when they're going out for lunch and how can you
enjoy your Cajun blackened catfish with the smell of scorched spammer
lingering on your clothes?  At least have a display-only chair in a glass
case if you must have one in the lobby, with the working version for scum
like burstnet behind the building.

 
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:02:17 GMT
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
James Riden <j.ri...@massey.ac.nz> wrote in
news:878yqflojp.fsf@it029205.massey.ac.nz:

> Cardinal SYN <mailer-dae...@canismajor.demon.co.uk> writes:

>> Do a search on "Etherkiller" if you want some ideas.... I vote
>> that we use the European-standard 415-volt three-phase version.

> Suits me. Now how about designing one for 802.11 networks?

Already got one.  The EMP bomb is easy and cheap to build.

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:06:15 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:35:18 -0400, Jay of the Hill People wrote:

> Well the concept exists, which is just a glorified "everyone should block
> these guys".

Or a few tier1s blackholing the networks and/or inserting advertised routes
to blackholes. (Hey, if above.net can do it...)

Or enough bogus route insertion/removals to cause BGP quenching of the
target's routing adverts.

The latter doesn't take much and only needs to be repeated every 20
minutes or so to keep the target off air indefinitely.


 
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:52:06 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
On 30 Jul 2003 17:52:23 GMT, ke...@uppitychick.net (Kelly Molloy) wrote:

>In article <20030730115159.GA11...@example.com>, OldG...@example.com says...

>>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

>This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
>death penalty" existed.

>--kelly

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James Riden  
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 More options Jul 30 2003, 8:31 pm
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From: James Riden <j.ri...@massey.ac.nz>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:31:53 +1200
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

"Uncle StoatWarbler" <alanb+goog...@digistar.com> writes:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:35:18 -0400, Jay of the Hill People wrote:

>> Well the concept exists, which is just a glorified "everyone should block
>> these guys".

> Or a few tier1s blackholing the networks and/or inserting advertised routes
> to blackholes. (Hey, if above.net can do it...)

> Or enough bogus route insertion/removals to cause BGP quenching of the
> target's routing adverts.

Presumably it's also possible to do DNS cache poisoning - return extra
'bogus' A records for foo.evil.com - 127.0.0.1 or something - every
time you get a query for another site?

Disclaimer: This would be a Really Bad Thing to do and I'm only
thinking out loud about it because I get paid to think about evil
possibilities and circumvent them.
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Quaestor  
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 More options Jul 30 2003, 9:45 pm
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From: Quaestor <no.s...@my.place>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:56 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Kelly Molloy wrote:
>In article <20030730115159.GA11...@example.com>, OldG...@example.com says...

>>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

>This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
>death penalty" existed.

There's nothing wrong with a First Time.

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From: Quaestor <no.s...@my.place>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:57 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
Giblet - MN State Resident wrote:

>They ended their contract with azoogle effect July 31....

Does this mean the woodpeckers no longer have anything to do?

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Quaestor  
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From: Quaestor <no.s...@my.place>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:45:57 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 30 2003 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Ste...@my-deja.com wrote:
>On 30 Jul 2003 17:52:23 GMT, ke...@uppitychick.net (Kelly Molloy)
>wrote:

>>This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
>>death penalty" existed.

>Mebbe we should start one.  We can get our own special electric chair,
>all that.  Keep it right in the lobby here at NANAE.  

With a coin-mech to operate it?  Proceeds to the anti-spammers defence
and pizza fund?

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 More options Jul 31 2003, 2:39 am
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From: ChrisUren <ChrisUren@Pressed_Pork.blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:43:41 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2003 2:43 am
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:52:06 -0400, Tim Boyer <t...@denmantire.com>
wrote:

>>>Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

>>This would be a lot more useful and credible if such a thing as an "internet
>>death penalty" existed.

>>--kelly

>Spoilsport.

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Inigo Montoya  
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 More options Jul 31 2003, 3:38 am
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From: Inigo.Mont...@The.Princess.Bride (Inigo Montoya)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:38:27 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2003 3:38 am
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

Paul Vader wrote:
>Please don't start up *that* thread again. *

What he said.  PLEASE.

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From: Inigo.Mont...@The.Princess.Bride (Inigo Montoya)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:39:19 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2003 3:39 am
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

D.G. Devin wrote:
>At least have a display-only chair in a glass
>case if you must have one in the lobby, with the working version for scum
>like burstnet behind the building.

I think you mean "buried in a bunker a mile beneath the building."

HTH HAND

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 More options Jul 31 2003, 5:51 am
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From: "Uncle StoatWarbler" <alanb+goog...@digistar.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:54:34 +0000
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2003 7:54 am
Subject: Re: [Updated] Call for Internet Death Penalty: Burstnet/Hostnoc

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:58:34 +1200, James Riden wrote:
> Suits me. Now how about designing one for 802.11 networks?

Tesla's dream power transfer system should do it.

 
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