Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has been
mentioned a few times.
"The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their credit
card repayments.
The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+ Financial
Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were spamming the
telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in Cardholder
Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had injunctions placed
against them in federal court."
> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has been
> mentioned a few times.
> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their credit
> card repayments.
> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+ Financial
> Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were spamming the
> telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in Cardholder
> Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had injunctions placed
> against them in federal court."
"Cold Calling: The victim who fought back - and won.
Complaints about unsolicited calls and texts from sales and marketing
companies have reached an all-time high.
But now one man has successfully claimed back the cost of his time
from a firm which called him when he had specifically asked them not
to.
Richard Herman from Middlesex felt like he was being hounded by calls
and texts from companies telling him they could help him claim
compensation after an accident or claim back money spent on mis-sold
payment protection insurance, or PPI as it's known.
He has not had an accident and he has never taken out PPI.
And he is also registered with the Telephone Preference Service (TPS),
which should stop unwanted sales calls............"
"Five robocalling companies that defrauded consumers of an estimated $30
million by promising to lower credit card interest rates in exchange for
exorbitant fees have been shut down by the Federal Trade Commission, the
agency said today."
> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has been
> mentioned a few times.
> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their credit
> card repayments.
> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+ Financial
> Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were spamming the
> telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in Cardholder
> Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had injunctions placed
> against them in federal court."
> Interesting it is always a UK outlet with the news.
Naturally, given that they are the head of the Cabal.
-- Caller: This program says "Press any key to continue," but I don't know which one is the any key.
Technician: You'd better try them all, just to be sure.
Caller: OK... Hey, what do you know? I found it first try! I guess I'm a lot smarter about these computers than I thought!
> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has been
> mentioned a few times.
> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their credit
> card repayments.
> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+ Financial
> Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were spamming the
> telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in Cardholder
> Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had injunctions placed
> against them in federal court."
I will take this moment to point out that yesterday Friday 11-2 I received a call from "Heather at account services" at a non-published inside extension. It was an automated call...
WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
> On 11/2/2012 00:20, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has
>> been mentioned a few times.
>> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>> credit card repayments.
>> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+
>> Financial Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were
>> spamming the telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in
>> Cardholder Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had
>> injunctions placed against them in federal court."
> I will take this moment to point out that yesterday Friday 11-2 I
> received a call from "Heather at account services" at a non-published
> inside extension. It was an automated call...
Yea, it's the roboware. These scams will continue as long as there
are suckers.
> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> On 11/2/2012 00:20, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>>> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has
>>> been mentioned a few times.
>>> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>>> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>>> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>>> credit card repayments.
>>> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+
>>> Financial Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were
>>> spamming the telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in
>>> Cardholder Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had
>>> injunctions placed against them in federal court."
>> I will take this moment to point out that yesterday Friday 11-2 I
>> received a call from "Heather at account services" at a non-published
>> inside extension. It was an automated call...
> Yea, it's the roboware. These scams will continue as long as there
> are suckers.
The problem is this, we don't manage crime properly.
We need a system where supposing we caught every offender then
Deed(X) ==> Punishment(Y)
And if we can't then:
Deed(X) ===> Punishmint(y)/(probability of being caught and successfully prosecuted)
This would likely raise the punishment for sending spam to the highest possible sanction.
In <wSLfgtFWg1kQF...@jasper.org.uk>, on 11/02/2012
at 05:20 AM, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> said:
>The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>credit card repayments.
As usual, they get a slap on the wrist and will soon reopen under a
new name. Why are there no criminal indictments, including RICO?
I reserve the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive
E-mail. Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact
me. Do not reply to spamt...@library.lspace.org
In <50959a9e$4$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net> "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
>In <wSLfgtFWg1kQF...@jasper.org.uk>, on 11/02/2012
> at 05:20 AM, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> said:
>>The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>>robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>>thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>>credit card repayments.
>As usual, they get a slap on the wrist and will soon reopen under a
>new name. Why are there no criminal indictments, including RICO?
Eyup. Agree fully.
The FTC/FCC could, if they really wanted to, cut this garbage
down by 90 percent.
First, of course, is if they'd actually pursue real criminal
actions and/or financial isolation against these assholes
the same way, for example, they've [a] marginalized Wikileaks
and made it almost impossible to send them money.
Second is taking a lesson from one of the few bits of banking
legislation that helped consumers, namely the limits on
credit card fraudulent use liability.
- In the US, if your credit card is spoofed/stolen/faked, you
are generally either completely cleared on any of the expenses
or have a cap of fifty dollars. (If you're really fucked up
and don't take a look at your statements for a year, you can
get screwed... but most people are covered).
As such, since the banks, non bank banks, and non bank non banks
are on the hook for these expenses, they've adopted some pretty
impressive, intelligent, and mildly intrusive search algorithms
that check for misuse. To simplify an example, if you've never
ordered from overseas and there are now a dozen charges in
Romania, and those merchants have 500 other new charges, the
banks, etc., quickly freeze the transfers.
If similar legal protections were placed onto folk doing
the "Rachel" stuff, I'm pretty sure the banks, etc., would
tweak their computers to cut 99 percent of this out in,
oh, an hour or two. (well, obviously it would take a
bit longer. not much, though).
[a] more than just the FTC/FCC on this one, of course.
-- _____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
<post.repl...@address.invalid> wrote:
>WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>> On 11/2/2012 00:20, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>>> Although not email, posting this because "Cardholder Services" has
>>> been mentioned a few times.
>>> "The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>>> robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>>> thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>>> credit card repayments.
>>> The operators, Treasure Your Success, Ambrosia Web Design, A+
>>> Financial Center, The Green Savers, and Key One Solutions, were
>>> spamming the telephone network with automatic calls from "Rachel in
>>> Cardholder Services," using spoofed numbers. They have now had
>>> injunctions placed against them in federal court."
>> I will take this moment to point out that yesterday Friday 11-2 I
>> received a call from "Heather at account services" at a non-published
>> inside extension. It was an automated call...
>Yea, it's the roboware. These scams will continue as long as there
>are suckers.
If a phone number does NOT show (private, anonymous, out of area, no
number at all, etc.) My phone WILL NOT ring :-)
I have NOT had ONE political phone call yet (that I know of).
> In <wSLfgtFWg1kQF...@jasper.org.uk>, on 11/02/2012
> at 05:20 AM, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> said:
>>The Federal Trade Commission has successfully shut down five US
>>robocall operations in Arizona and Florida that bilked hundreds of
>>thousands of dollars from people desperate to cut down on their
>>credit card repayments.
> As usual, they get a slap on the wrist and will soon reopen under a
> new name. Why are there no criminal indictments, including RICO?
Maybe they prefer to collect the Prote^H^H^H^H^H Ta^H^H Fines.
In article <sv1d98h82l88n1047holeht502j7r69...@4ax.com>,
Jim Higgins <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>The article is dated the 1st, but I got 2 calls from Rachel on Friday
>the 2nd and one on Saturday the 3rd.
>Nothing but injunctions is a joke when violations continued unabated
>after a $3.5 million fine... which probably hasn't been collected. The
>principals should be in jail with bail set at something like $5
>million each... bail to be forfeited and back to jail with them if the
>calls continue.
An article I read a few weeks ago, made it sound like the "Rachel from
Cardmember Services" calls are generated by some sort of "turnkey"
package... a bundle of cold-calling/wardialing hardware and software
that's available for purchase. A bunch of mostly-unrelated "gangs"
seem to have bought it, and set up independent "boiler room"
cold-calling operations. Shutting down one of them completely (or
even several of them) has no effect on the others, and so the calls
continue.
In that regard, "Rachel" and her calls are not very dissimilar at all
to the masses of spam emails sent using software packages written,
sold, and supported by certain individuals well known to readers
hereabouts.
-- Dave Platt <dpl...@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
Jim Higgins wrote:
> The
> principals should be in jail with bail set at something like $5
> million each... bail to be forfeited and back to jail with them if the
> calls continue.
And if they used a database named TimesTen then apply that rule.
Got a call about an urgent issue with my credit cards. Didn't say "Rachel" but the voice and sense of as much of the message as I listened-to is same old same old.
-- Idioten aangeboden. Gratis af te halen.
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