My name is Alex Polyakov, I'm the owner of Pilot Holding, LLC (hosting bbahost.com (the Russian site) / bbasafehosting.com (the English site) is also known as sysvhost.com). First of all I'd like to tell that mybizhosting.com (ebizhostingsolutions.com, myservlethosting.com) which are owned by E-Biz Hosting Solutions, LLC is not related to Pilot Holding, LLC. I worked at E-Biz Hosting Solutions, LLC as a main specialist of Java Hosting department.It wasn't my hosting, my sites or my projects. All projects are owned by CEO of E-Biz Hosting Solutions, LLC - Adam Kling. As I've said before, I was main specialist of Java branch, but there were lots of other projects, on the person who worked at on of them is Alex Mosh. Afterwards he started his owned business. You know that living standart in Ukraine is too low and people don't lose any chance to make some money. So I can't judge Alex for dealing with spammers, although I roundly denounce spam. Alex Mosh owned hosting company bbahost.com/bbasafehosting.com /pilotholding.com, but due to his spam related deals his hosting company suffered from a sequence of failures and was nearly dead. After negotiating with Alex on the end of July he described me the situation roughly, and hosting company was sold to me for a not so big of money. I left my work at E-Biz Hosting Solutions and started development and recreation of hosting. All remote administrators which have been working for Alex were fired and a new team of local administrators was created. Unfortunately I had no opportunity to prove not-participation of bbahost.com/bbasafehosting.com in spam stuff. I was forced to transfer all the hosting including dedicated servers to sysvhost.com domain, it nearly was a last straw for a hosting. After a half of year have passed, with a help of promoters and friends I managed to elevate hosting company in search engines and forums to a certain level which allowed to start wiping all detractive things and opinions about my hosting. So I write to you. My hosting has Zero Tolerance against spam, that is specified on http://bbasafehosting.com/services/policy.html page (bbasafehosting.com -> services -> helpful documentation -> policy), and I personally is enemy to spam as an intervention into human's private life. I fight against spam and both of my DataCenters (ev1servers.net (formerly rackshack.net) and theplanet.com) can confirm that all the domains and accounts that were related to spam or TOS/AUP violations were removed after the first notice. As I have read FAQ on spews.org site and found information in groups.google.com concerning bbahost.com/bbasafehosting.com/sysvhost.com I'd like to say that all the domains, registered by Pilot Holding, LLC and involved in spam were removed not only from hosting servers (actually they were removed during moving servers from calpop.com/datacolo.com datacenters, before I became the owner of the company) but I also correspond with opensrs.net domain registrar , (we are reseller of its service) concerning complete removal these domain from the registry of root DNS servers. I have only permitted myself to leave bba*.com domains, because of its positions in the search and rate systems and as a trade mark of a hosting, and beacuse of earlier date of registration than sysvhost.com, you should understand. As it's written in a certain post in the news group news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting, "Capo" Borman (Vladislav Melnyk in real life) is actually has relation to bbahost.com/bbasafehosting.com/sysvhost.com and is working for me now. He is NOT an owner of the hosting, he is just a promoter from the sales department. He was working in the hosting before I have bought it, he was promoting the company in the russian and english parts of internet. What concerns carderplanet.com I understend your abhorrence but let me justify myself once more - carderplanet.com is highly visited forum which is visited not only by frauders/carders/scummers/spammers, etc but also by honest people like analysts, workers of the antifraud departments, software developers, webmasters and other people who would like to be aware of the current ways of fraud in the internet, and protect themselves from it. Forum is opened for all who wants to use it, and is widely known. Status of the "Capo" member is explained at http://www.carderplanet.com/capo.html - "..people who are included in this part, don't take part in the active life of our forum, but they deserve respect for to their honesty and decency.. ". We pay monthly for advertizing on that forum and have no other relations with it. Anyway if you will tell us to remove our advertizing from that forum - we will do it immediately. What is related to proxydialup.com and ist owner AlekseyB and Alex Blood: Blood is a nickname of Alexander Mosh, domains were registered with the technical contacts to Alex Blood and are not related to proxydialup.com. I have already changed contact inforamtion to my own and I am takting all responsibility to my name for these domains to be clean of any abusive things. Domain proxydialup.com was completely removed from the hosting.
If I personally tolerate spam? - absolutely NOT! As for an ordinary user of internet and for an ordinary businessman, for me spam is annoying sort of advertizing which intervents into the private life and causes inconvenience to the ordinary users of internet on the on the one hand, and is very unstable and short term business which delivers little amount of money and large amount of problems from the other hand as I can see due to my almost personal experience, on the example of Alex Mosh and already mine BBA Safe Hosting. I assume hosting business as a stable profitable business and don't want to have any relation to the spam, I would like to clear my name (which was erroneously connected with spam) and and my hosting's name as well to the internet community. I apologise for all the misdeeds commited by BBA Safe Hosting (to be exact Pilot Holding LLC) and I'm ready to provide any necessary help for fighting against spam and become the active participant of your community. Please give me a chance to prove the innocence of BBA Safe Hosting. Please show that you're not the tyrants who block ASP/ISP whithout any investigation and destroying the business, but the real fighters against internet abuse. I'm ready to answer any questions, and to made any changes in the hosting you say. Plese tell me what can I do to redress a guilt of Pilot Holding LLC, remove us from blocklisting and develop my business with a clear name?
Sorry for my poor english and please understand that if I could say better and more eloquent - I would certainly do that.
With best regards, Alex Polyakov
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I ask you to stop yourself, and not to destroy honest hosting company. We put lot of money and power in it, pinned our hopes on it. Being anonymous you take risk of nothing, but God is seing - you're doing wrong. You can re-add us to blocklisting any moment, after first spam event.
What is my fault? My efforts to clean my hosting's and my personal name and reputation? My apologies for the former sins of the company? Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's families without piece of bread? For the last half of year when I'm ahead of the company there has been no problem cases, every spam related domain has been terminated at the first spam event. Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance. We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
Dear newsgroup readers, can anyone advise us how to remove our domains from SPEWS blocklist ?
Thanks in advance, Alex Polyakov
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> My name is Alex Polyakov, I'm the owner of Pilot Holding, LLC > (hosting bbahost.com > (the Russian site) / bbasafehosting.com (the English site) is also known
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Alex Polyakov <apolya...@sysvhost.com> wrote: >Hello, >I ask you to stop yourself, and not to destroy honest hosting company. We >put lot of money and power in it, pinned our hopes on it. Being anonymous >you take risk of nothing, but God is seing - you're doing wrong. You can >re-add us to blocklisting any moment, after first spam event. >What is my fault? My efforts to clean my hosting's and my personal name and >reputation? My apologies for the former sins of the company? >Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's >families without piece of bread?
The cold hard truth is that this is your problem, not anyone else's. SPEWS is only a list. It is used by mail administrators around the world who don't like ISPs that seem to support spamming. My point is that it is the mail administrators' choice to use SPEWS, and they are doing it because they don't want mail from ISPs that are suspicious. You have the right to send e-mail, but you have no right to getting those e-mail delivered. So, you will have to work hard at reversing their opinion of your company.
>For the last half of year when I'm ahead of the company there has been no >problem cases, every spam related domain has been terminated at the first >spam event. >Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam >relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance.
It isn't enough. You can prove that your company has stopped spamming by proving ALL of the entries in SPEWS S2547 are now no longer on your network. Check each entry, see if you or your clients are providing connectivity to them (e-mail, web, dns,...), show they are no longer on your network, or terminate their account (or tell your client to terminate their account upon punishment of terminating your client). You can give us progress report on your work (i.e. you don't have to show us one big document), but I suspect only after you have finished cleaning out that file will you be unlisted. Nothing else will work, as far as we can tell.
>We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
Ok, show us.
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> Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's > families without piece of bread?
there are generous programs to support the indigent here in the u.s. you are located in nevada, i believe. or is it new hampshire?
anyway, we are in the midst of a roaring economic recovery. (however, this recovery will screech to a halt after the november elections, so get those resumés out right away.)
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> Dear newsgroup readers, > can anyone advise us how to remove our domains from SPEWS blocklist ?
yes. stop providing spam support services, and return to your victims the money you have made hosting the most vile of thieves. blaming your misfortunes on others will avail you naught.
adam
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> I ask you to stop yourself, and not to destroy honest hosting company. We > put lot of money and power in it, pinned our hopes on it.
Money earned from spamming/scaming/carding.
> What is my fault? My efforts to clean my hosting's and my personal name and > reputation? My apologies for the former sins of the company?
Your fault is engaging in spam business.
> Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's > families without piece of bread?
Yes, couple of zillions of spams are worth destroying a spam operation.
> For the last half of year when I'm ahead of the company there has been no > problem cases, every spam related domain has been terminated at the first > spam event.
> Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam > relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance.
Every spam complaint sent to your abuse addy had given you a chance. You missed them all.
> We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
Change your name and start a new company.
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> From: Alex Polyakov <apolya...@sysvhost.com>, > Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam > relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance. > We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
I'll answer your question more kindly.
This is a bad place to ask about 'second chances' as nanab (a.k.a news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting) is frequented by hardliners. Some said hardliners feel no penalty is too great if less spam results, and are very ready to say so.
Eradicating spammers from your network isn't just to please the hardliners; it's to please everyone. Spam is consistently in the Top 5 'Internet Woes' when users are surveyed. This is an opportunity to be part of the solution.
Once the spammers are gone (_all_ services terminated), come here and say so (detailing the SPEWS record number(s)) and give an indication of how you will help stop them returning to your network. Refuse service to known spammers? Measures to enforce anti-abuse provisions of your Terms of Service/Acceptable Use Policy? Active monitoring and investigation of _all_ abuse reports? All of these make a good start.
You can't change the past, but present and future are under your control. Ignore the rhetoric on sins of the past, focus on the problem at hand, and stop the spammers. The rhetoric will disappear of its own accord. As will - based on past experience only - the SPEWS listing(s).
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unfortunately, all the hosting staff lives and works in Ukraine, not in USA. Life standarts in Ukraine is too low, average salary makes 45$/month. Pilot Holding, LLC is really registered in USA, Nevada as an offshore company but none of us lives there.
The company has stopped all relations with spam and spammers from the moment I've purchased it (~ 6 months ago). I apologise once more for the former activities of the company, they're not compatible with my understanding of internet business basics. Please understand that your proposition of returning money is not possible in our condition. Though I'd do it if I had such a possibility. I ask to forgive us, once more.
With best regards, Alex Polyakov
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> > Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's > > families without piece of bread?
> there are generous programs to support the indigent here > in the u.s. you are located in nevada, i believe. or is > it new hampshire?
> anyway, we are in the midst of a roaring economic recovery. > (however, this recovery will screech to a halt after the > november elections, so get those resumés out right away.)
> [snip]
> > Dear newsgroup readers, > > can anyone advise us how to remove our domains from SPEWS blocklist ?
> yes. stop providing spam support services, and return to > your victims the money you have made hosting the most > vile of thieves. blaming your misfortunes on others > will avail you naught.
> adam
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> > I ask you to stop yourself, and not to destroy honest hosting company. We > > put lot of money and power in it, pinned our hopes on it.
> Money earned from spamming/scaming/carding.
I invested my own money, I have made by honest, legal work. I've never dealt with "spamming/scaming/carding", please stop blackening my name. I've just bought this company, which hosted spam-related sites before I bought it. I knew what I was doing and what dificulties I might meet. And all of us spent this half of year to make it possible to prove that our company is not dealing with spam/spammers anymore.
> > What is my fault? My efforts to clean my hosting's and my personal name and > > reputation? My apologies for the former sins of the company?
> Your fault is engaging in spam business.
> > Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's > > families without piece of bread?
> Yes, couple of zillions of spams are worth destroying a spam operation.
Once more I ask you personally and all internet community to forgive my company for helping spammers in past. I've found no traces of mailings from Pilot Holding, LLC (BBA Safe Hosting) name, as well as traces of spam advertizing of sites of my company. The man who led the company before me, Alex Mosh assured me that there were just failed efforts of hosting direct-marketing sites, now I see that it was not complete information, and apologise for it. I'd like to make a stress on the fact that my company is not dealing with spam/spammers already for a half of year. Look when was the last record of spam events connected with my company name ?
> > For the last half of year when I'm ahead of the company there has been no > > problem cases, every spam related domain has been terminated at the first > > spam event.
> When it was carderplanet moved from your hosting?
Please understand that we have automated control system (H-SPHERE Control Panel), using which users can regiter, re-regiter, transfer, park (add dns zones for domaint located at another hosting, server, network, etc., that have no relations with our hosting) and delete domains in their accounts. Actually number of domains is so great that neither I nor my colleagues can't watch them all. I can provide anyone who would like it with a test account, so you can check it yourself. At the first abuse for any domain on aour hostng, account containing that domain is beeing deleted without warning. I don't want to have any relations with spam or any kind of fraud. Spamplanet was hosted at our company but unfortunately I learned about it only after your post and terminated this account immediately before it was blocklisted anywhere.
Now we have checked all domains and wrote scripts, notifying administrators about creating domains containing words "spam/carding/fraud/scum" and watching attentively not to let hosting such domains.
> > Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam > > relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance.
> Every spam complaint sent to your abuse addy had given you a chance. You > missed them all.
I can assure you that every complain that our hosting or datacenter have received during my ownership of the company was satisfied and domains and accounts causing abuses were immediately terminated.
> > We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
> Change your name and start a new company.
It's not the thing I'm talking about. I'm trying to clear my name from false connections and prove you that BBA Safe Hosting is worth beeing removed from blocklists.
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thanks for your answer. I completle understand the both the purpose of SPEWS and its authority. It's not just a list, it's one of the most widely used lists, and if you're listed in it not many datacenters will agree to host your servers. We would use it by ourserves if it wouldn't block our own mail. Now we're using spam assasin to filter spam. And yes, my colleagues and I are ready to work hard to reverse opinion about our company.
Here's the first part of the result of checking S2547 entries:
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1, 216.65.107.39, auragirls.com /* Dead */ hostonfly.net
auragirls.com. 66111 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66111 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66111 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66111 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ auragirls.com. 86400 IN MX 20 mail2.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail1.hostonfly.net.
hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82515 IN MX 10 mail2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82515 IN MX 20 mail1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail2.hostonfly.net. 82515 IN A 65.19.167.116 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail1.hostonfly.net. 82515 IN A 65.19.167.115 /* Not in our hosting's network */
awmpartner.com. 172594 IN NS invalid-address.joker.com. awmpartner.com. 172594 IN NS invalid-address.joker.com. invalid-address.joker.com. 3682 IN A 194.176.0.5 /* Not in our hosting's network */ awmpartner.com. IN MX
hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82515 IN MX 10 mail2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82515 IN MX 20 mail1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82406 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail2.hostonfly.net. 82515 IN A 65.19.167.116 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail1.hostonfly.net. 82515 IN A 65.19.167.115 /* Not in our hosting's network */
x-shop-x.com. 160027 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 160027 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 160027 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 160027 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail1.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 86400 IN MX 20 mail2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132749 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */
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1, 216.65.107.43, ionizer.x-shop-x.com
ionizer.x-shop-x.com. 19 IN A 216.65.107.95 /* Not in our hosting's network */ x-shop-x.com. 160026 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. x-shop-x.com. 160026 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ionizer.x-shop-x.com. IN MX ---------------------------------------------
auragirls.com. 66110 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66110 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66110 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 66110 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ auragirls.com. 86400 IN MX 20 mail2.hostonfly.net. auragirls.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail1.hostonfly.net.
hostonfly.net. 82405 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82405 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82514 IN MX 10 mail2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82514 IN MX 20 mail1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82405 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82405 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132748 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail2.hostonfly.net. 82514 IN A 65.19.167.116 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail1.hostonfly.net. 82514 IN A 65.19.167.115 /* Not in our hosting's network */
awmpartner.com. 172593 IN NS invalid-address.joker.com. awmpartner.com. 172593 IN NS invalid-address.joker.com. invalid-address.joker.com. 3681 IN A 194.176.0.5 /* Not in our hosting's network */ awmpartner.com. IN MX
hostonfly.net. 82404 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82404 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82513 IN MX 10 mail2.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82513 IN MX 20 mail1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82404 IN NS ns1.hostonfly.net. hostonfly.net. 82404 IN NS ns2.hostonfly.net. ns1.hostonfly.net. 132747 IN A 65.19.167.135 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.hostonfly.net. 132747 IN A 65.19.167.118 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail2.hostonfly.net. 82513 IN A 65.19.167.116 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail1.hostonfly.net. 82513 IN A 65.19.167.115 /* Not in our hosting's network */
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1, 211.73.8.16, ns3.dnsflyer.com ip-mail.com ns3.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 211.73.8.12 dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns1.dnsflyer.com. dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns2.dnsflyer.com. dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns3.dnsflyer.com. dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns4.dnsflyer.com. dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns5.dnsflyer.com. dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN NS ns6.dnsflyer.com. ns1.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 195.5.22.228 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns2.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 202.128.64.107 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns3.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 211.73.8.12 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns4.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 195.5.40.247 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns5.dnsflyer.com. 133526 IN A 217.6.115.178 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ns6.dnsflyer.com. 172597 IN A 217.73.8.16 /* Not in our hosting's network */
ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns1.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns2.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns3.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns4.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns5.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 25 IN MX 10 mail.ip-mail.com. ip-mail.com. 96 IN A 80.96.162.66 /* Not in our hosting's network */ ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns1.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns2.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns3.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns4.name-services.com. ip-mail.com. 160093 IN NS dns5.name-services.com. dns1.name-services.com. 16036 IN A 63.251.163.102 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns2.name-services.com. 124831 IN A 216.52.184.230 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns3.name-services.com. 16036 IN A 63.251.83.36 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns4.name-services.com. 1965 IN A 64.74.96.242 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns5.name-services.com. 92101 IN A 212.118.244.163 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns5.name-services.com. 92101 IN A 212.118.244.164 /* Not in our hosting's network */ dns5.name-services.com. 92101 IN A 212.118.244.169 /* Not in our hosting's network */ mail.ip-mail.com. 25 IN A 80.96.162.66 /* Not in our hosting's network */ -------------------------------------------- 1, 211.73.8.12,
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Alex Polyakov wrote: > apologise for it. I'd like to make a stress on the fact that my company is > not dealing with spam/spammers already for a half of year. Look when was the > last record of spam events connected with my company name ?
Yea, hosting spamplanet.net does not count. Hosting carderportal.org does not count either. Hosting carderplanet.net/com/cc? Just a coincidence. Hosting advsites? When it was? Hosting proxydialup.com? Twice you said? It happens, you know how it is. Hosting lists of trojaned machines? Minor problem. Hosting crack/wares/appz sites? Who does not?
Alex, no one believes your mantra that you are clean for six months. Every time you sing it again, I point you to another illegal site hosted by you. The next day you post here again that you are clean for six months.
Let me quote your good friend and partner Alexey Panov: <quote> Spamming is like shooting heroin. Yea its great and your gonna wanna do it again, but trust me, its not good for you. </quote>
http://www.wtcracks.com/main.htm <quote> :.: Attention :.: All of the content listed under this site is not to be downloaded, viewed, or used under any circumstances. If you do choose to ignore these rules, the webmaster and hosting organization is not responsible for your actions pertaining to the information on this site. If you are here because you're an Anti-Piracy related group or organization, you are not allowed to enter this site and you can not download any content listed under this site. If you enter this site and do not agree or ignore these terms of agreement, you can not provide any treatment of our hosting ISPs, or anyone choosing to store information on this site because your actions will be a violation code no. 431.322.12 of the Internet Privacy Act from 1995. </quote>
> I'm trying to clear my name from false > connections and prove you that BBA Safe Hosting is worth beeing removed from > blocklists.
No, it is not. A spamhaus's place is in the blocklists.
P.S. I am not SPEWS, I am feed up with your lies and will not answer your posts anymore because you have nothing to add to the case. I need to prepare to meet the wrath of 'Capo' Borman and his 'sgarristas'.
-- Yes, I do have a spellchequer
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> Please understand that we have automated control system (H-SPHERE Control > Panel), using which users can regiter, re-regiter, transfer, park (add dns > zones for domaint located at another hosting, server, network, etc., that > have no relations with our hosting) and delete domains in their accounts. > Actually number of domains is so great that neither I nor my colleagues > can't watch them all. I can provide anyone who would like it with a test > account, so you can check it yourself. At the first abuse for any domain on > aour hostng, account containing that domain is beeing deleted without > warning. I don't want to have any relations with spam or any kind of fraud. > Spamplanet was hosted at our company but unfortunately I learned about it > only after your post and terminated this account immediately before it was > blocklisted anywhere.
> Now we have checked all domains and wrote scripts, notifying administrators > about creating domains containing words "spam/carding/fraud/scum" and > watching attentively not to let hosting such domains.
You might consider writing scripts that constantly, repeatedly check any/all domains in your registry, and all IPs under your control;
for any mention in as many BlockLists / BlackLists as you can find. (for starters look at the ones mentioned at moensted.dk/spam.)
for any mention in as many Spam / Abuse newsgroups as you can find. {news.admin.net-abuse.* alt.spam, alt.stop.spamming, comp.org.cauce, grc.spam, news.spamcop.net, gmane.mail.spam.*, hr.news.net-abuse, dk.admin.netmisbrug, fj.news.net-abuse, sfnet.viestinta.roskapostit, fr.usenet.abus.d, de.admin.net-abuse.mail, it.news.net-abuse, japan.admin.abuse, nl.internet.misbruik, pl.news.mordplik, ch.admin, ...}
It may be overkill; on the other hand it might allow you to detect and resolve problems sooner, and prevent future abuse and escalation.
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> > apologise for it. I'd like to make a stress on the fact that my company is > > not dealing with spam/spammers already for a half of year. Look when was the > > last record of spam events connected with my company name ?
> Yea, hosting spamplanet.net does not count. > Hosting carderportal.org does not count either. > Hosting carderplanet.net/com/cc? Just a coincidence. > Hosting advsites? When it was? > Hosting proxydialup.com? Twice you said? It happens, you know how it is. > Hosting lists of trojaned machines? Minor problem. > Hosting crack/wares/appz sites? Who does not?
All sites from this list are removed and I described how it happened that we hosted them in previous post. Can you please specify all domains at my hosting that should be removed, we're in the process of searching and removing of all illegal sites and your help in that would be greatly appreciated. Talking about C4 team and easyandquickloans.com. C4 team has stolen our support icq uin and we were forced to register a new one ( uin# 231556749) and we'd like to learn who they are very much. If you know something about connection between easyandquickloans.com and C4 team please give us this information.
onyx1.sysvhost.com was removed as soon as we learned about it as we did it with domains specified upwards.
> And is still live at: > 69.56.247.190/proj/stat-live.cgi/live.txt
ThePlanet is the one of bigest datacenters in America, as far as I know, and this IP address is not belongs to our hosting. Here is nmap fingerprints:
nmap -O -p 1-1024 webmeat.sysvhost.com
Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-01-30 03:16 EET +Interesting ports on 69-56-225-98.theplanet.com (69.56.225.98): (The 1015 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) PORT STATE SERVICE 20/tcp closed ftp-data 21/tcp open ftp 22/tcp open ssh 53/tcp open domain 80/tcp open http 123/tcp closed ntp 443/tcp open https 873/tcp closed rsync 1024/tcp closed kdm Device type: general purpose Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X OS details: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20, Linux 2.4.18 - 2.4.20 Uptime 18.230 days (since Sun Jan 11 21:52:13 2004)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 438.730 seconds
nmap -O -p 1-1024 69.56.247.190
Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-01-30 03:24 EET Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port Interesting ports on 69-56-247-190.theplanet.com (69.56.247.190): (The 1020 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) PORT STATE SERVICE 21/tcp open ftp 22/tcp open ssh 80/tcp open http 443/tcp open https Device type: router|general purpose Running: FreeSCO Linux 2.0.X, Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X OS details: FreeSCO 0.27 (Linux 2.0.38), Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20 Uptime 3.951 days (since Mon Jan 26 04:38:59 2004)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 248.587 seconds
> Alex, no one believes your mantra that you are clean for six months. > Every time you sing it again, I point you to another illegal site hosted > by you. The next day you post here again that you are clean for six months.
> Let me quote your good friend and partner Alexey Panov: > <quote> > Spamming is like shooting heroin. Yea its great and your gonna wanna do > it again, but trust me, its not good for you. > </quote>
He's not my partner and I even don't know who is this. And yes, spam is really not good for me.
> http://www.wtcracks.com/main.htm > <quote> > :.: Attention :.: > All of the content listed under this site is not to be downloaded, > viewed, or used under any circumstances. If you do choose to ignore > these rules, the webmaster and hosting organization is not responsible > for your actions pertaining to the information on this site. If you are > here because you're an Anti-Piracy related group or organization, you > are not allowed to enter this site and you can not download any content > listed under this site. If you enter this site and do not agree or > ignore these terms of agreement, you can not provide any treatment of > our hosting ISPs, or anyone choosing to store information on this site > because your actions will be a violation code no. 431.322.12 of the > Internet Privacy Act from 1995. > </quote>
This domain is not hosted by us, in our six month clean hosting period, as you have said.
;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wtcracks.com. IN ANY
;; ANSWER SECTION: wtcracks.com. 941 IN NS ns2.red.ru. wtcracks.com. 941 IN NS aserver.red.ru.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION: wtcracks.com. 941 IN NS ns2.red.ru. wtcracks.com. 941 IN NS aserver.red.ru.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns2.red.ru. 942 IN A 194.135.19.34 aserver.red.ru. 84707 IN A 194.135.19.34
> > I'm trying to clear my name from false > > connections and prove you that BBA Safe Hosting is worth beeing removed from > > blocklists.
> No, it is not. A spamhaus's place is in the blocklists.
> P.S. I am not SPEWS, I am feed up with your lies and will not answer > your posts anymore because you have nothing to add to the case. I need > to prepare to meet the wrath of 'Capo' Borman and his 'sgarristas'.
Anri, please understand, that you can be 'Capo' too, just for monthly payment for advertising. You don't want to believe anyone and your e-mail address is to eloquent for you, but now you are wrong and I'm asking you to help me clean out all illegal/spam connected domains from hosting as I see that you know more than I. Is that possible ? I really want to eradicate the black heritage of the past and to do a legal business.
With best regards, Alex Polyakov
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> Alex Polyakov wrote: > <SNIP> > > Please understand that we have automated control system (H-SPHERE Control > > Panel), using which users can regiter, re-regiter, transfer, park (add dns > > zones for domaint located at another hosting, server, network, etc., that > > have no relations with our hosting) and delete domains in their accounts. > > Actually number of domains is so great that neither I nor my colleagues > > can't watch them all. I can provide anyone who would like it with a test > > account, so you can check it yourself. At the first abuse for any domain on > > aour hostng, account containing that domain is beeing deleted without > > warning. I don't want to have any relations with spam or any kind of fraud. > > Spamplanet was hosted at our company but unfortunately I learned about it > > only after your post and terminated this account immediately before it was > > blocklisted anywhere.
> > Now we have checked all domains and wrote scripts, notifying administrators > > about creating domains containing words "spam/carding/fraud/scum" and > > watching attentively not to let hosting such domains.
> You might consider writing scripts that constantly, > repeatedly check any/all domains in your registry, > and all IPs under your control;
> for any mention in as many BlockLists / BlackLists as you can find. > (for starters look at the ones mentioned at moensted.dk/spam.)
Thank you for a kind answer, and for a good link to know.
> for any mention in as many Spam / Abuse newsgroups as you can find. > {news.admin.net-abuse.* > alt.spam, > alt.stop.spamming, > comp.org.cauce, > grc.spam, > news.spamcop.net, > gmane.mail.spam.*, > hr.news.net-abuse, > dk.admin.netmisbrug, > fj.news.net-abuse, > sfnet.viestinta.roskapostit, > fr.usenet.abus.d, > de.admin.net-abuse.mail, > it.news.net-abuse, > japan.admin.abuse, > nl.internet.misbruik, > pl.news.mordplik, > ch.admin, > ...}
> It may be overkill; > on the other hand it might allow you to detect and resolve > problems sooner, and prevent future abuse and escalation.
We have started to develop perl script that parses this news groups, for all domains that are contained in standard formatted BIND dns zones. We will post it here soon, to be public accessable and usefull for increasing the speed of spam prevention.
With best regards, Alex Polyakov
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> > Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam > > relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance. > > We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
> I'll answer your question more kindly.
> This is a bad place to ask about 'second chances' as nanab (a.k.a > news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting) is frequented by hardliners. Some > said hardliners feel no penalty is too great if less spam results, and > are very ready to say so.
We are not spamers...
> Eradicating spammers from your network isn't just to please the > hardliners; it's to please everyone. Spam is consistently in the Top 5 > 'Internet Woes' when users are surveyed. This is an opportunity to be > part of the solution.
Yes, we have deleted every spamer or related site from our hosting already and working now on SPEWS listing record number S2547 to show that there is no relations left. Asking once more Anri to help us.
> Once the spammers are gone (_all_ services terminated), come here and > say so (detailing the SPEWS record number(s)) and give an indication of > how you will help stop them returning to your network. Refuse service > to known spammers? Measures to enforce anti-abuse provisions of your > Terms of Service/Acceptable Use Policy? Active monitoring and > investigation of _all_ abuse reports? All of these make a good start.
Yes, we have started it all for the begining of our SPEWS delisting process, and surely our AUP is of Zero Tolerance against SPAM (http://www.bbasafehosting.com/services/policy.html) We monitore our abuse@ boxes every 5 minutes.
> You can't change the past, but present and future are under your > control. Ignore the rhetoric on sins of the past, focus on the problem > at hand, and stop the spammers. The rhetoric will disappear of its own > accord. As will - based on past experience only - the SPEWS listing(s).
We are now starting development of perl scripts of thr type offered by post of <BlackL...@Griffin-Technologies.net>
We will make them public accessable (under GNU license) and post them here in one week. Guys from spews, please delist us, and you will see that no spam operations connected with our hosting will appear. You have opportunity to list us again any time, just show mercy and you'll see that we are NOT dealing with spammers and really want to help you fighting against internet abuse. We're experiencing lots of problems because of blacklisting, but we surely wouldn't stop attemps to prove that we are clean.
Thank you and sorry once more.
Alex Polyakov
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ns.s.plusline.de. 86400 IN A 212.19.40.14 /* Not in our hosting's network */
1, 199.105.86.242, proxysite.com dead? proxysite.com. 68283 IN NS horimed.relcom.ru. proxysite.com. 68283 IN NS horimed.relcom.ru.
horimed.relcom.ru. 86377 IN A 194.220.4.1 /* Not in our hosting's network */
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dvdvibe.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.dvdvibe.com. dvdvibe.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.dvdvibe.com.
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1, 200.207.128.163, inkus.net 200-207-128-163.speedyterra.com.br /* Dead */
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1, 69.51.4.107, ns.xsitehosting.net on listed Hufnal spam house ns.xsitehosting.net. 68601 IN A 69.51.4.107 /* Not in our hosting's network */
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1, 63.246.157.52, damcash.com on sagonet.com spam house
Why do you hate me so much? I told you that my company never dealt with internet fraud. My name is blackened by spam because at the moment of purchasing the company and the domain by me, I had no facts about tearing all connections with spam, I could offer to the newsgroups. It's a pity that you're stressing that you're not afraid of me.The thing is that I come here not to scare or quarrel but to apologise for the activities of the company in the period it wasn't under my conrol, to clean the name of the company by helping in fight against spam. You want to do something useful in your life, for the people or the internet as a good idea. So do I. Hosting is working for only 1 year, it wasn't built during many years as you said in (http://www.google.com/groups?selm=buu2ht%24lm226%241%40ID-115151.news... erlin.de) and now I'm trying to clean it's (as well as mine) name, to build a buisness,to help people working for provide food and clothes for their families. I've invested money earned by several years of working as Java developer and lead system administrator. I see your abhorrence to our advertizing at carderplanet.com, I agree that it attracts attention to hosting not only of security analysts, anti-fraud departments, security systems developers, webmasters that would like to protect themselves against the most modern kinds of internet fraud and even You read it, but frauders as well. We warn every new cutomer by e-mail, icq and AUP (you may read it at http://bbasafehosting.com/services/policy.html) that for every illegal activity accounts are terminated without moneyback. So there's no sense for frauders to host sites with us. 'Capo' status is included in advertising fee, I told that we pay monthly for advertizing on carderplanet forum and have no other relations with it 'Capo' status is included in advertising fee, I told that we pay monthly for advertizing on carderplanet forum and have no other relations with it. And please stop offending me! You are violating all basics of polite behaviour, I understand that you don't trust me but let's be polite with each other untill my guilt that you insist on is not proved. As I'm reading your posts I'm making sure that you're severely offended by somebody. Or you're making such unproved conlusions to attract attention to your person? What about writing of anti-spam project together? What will you say?
What concernes snaikoil cert, it's a default generated by freely distribudet openssl utiility certificate for encrypted connections. Merlin.Com.UA is provider of a local network that is used by almost a half of all internet users of our city, and I have just posted to newsgroup using its news server. The people who live there are more friendly than you seem to be and just don't pay attention on it.
"Anri Erinin" <spammers_...@rambler.ru> wrote in message
> > I ask you to stop yourself, and not to destroy honest hosting company. We > > put lot of money and power in it, pinned our hopes on it.
> Money earned from spamming/scaming/carding.
> > What is my fault? My efforts to clean my hosting's and my personal name and > > reputation? My apologies for the former sins of the company?
> Your fault is engaging in spam business.
> > Is couple of letters worth destroying of buisness and leaving employee's > > families without piece of bread?
> Yes, couple of zillions of spams are worth destroying a spam operation.
> > For the last half of year when I'm ahead of the company there has been no > > problem cases, every spam related domain has been terminated at the first > > spam event.
> When it was carderplanet moved from your hosting?
> > Is that not enough to prove you that our hosting has stopped all spam > > relations, and I as a owner of the company worth at least one chance.
> Every spam complaint sent to your abuse addy had given you a chance. You > missed them all.
> > We'll agree with any condition of cooperation.
> Change your name and start a new company.
> -- > Yes, I do have a spellchequer
> -- > Comments posted to news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting > are solely the responsibility of their author. Please > read the news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting FAQ at > http://www.blocklisting.com/faq.html before posting.
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