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sam...@gmail.com

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Jul 24, 2008, 10:54:04 AM7/24/08
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I believe the tactic and procedures of UCEPROTECT does more harm than
good and as a professional ignore anything they publish and advice all
of my clients to do the same.

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Seth

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:46:14 PM7/24/08
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In article <6668830e-f076-40e8...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

<sam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I believe the tactic and procedures of UCEPROTECT does more harm than
>good and as a professional ignore anything they publish and advice all
>of my clients to do the same.

So your cat doesn't use it either?

Do you also advise your clients not to emit backscatter spam?

Or are any of these incompetently-run, perhaps even
criminally-negligently-run, systems among your clients? (All of these
have backscatter-spammed me.)

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Seth

Artie Lange

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:47:31 PM7/24/08
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sam...@gmail.com wrote:
> I believe

Let's stop right there, that is YOUR belief. You do not speak for the
internet community. When ISP's refuse to deal with spam within their
network, blocking is the only thing to curb the problem.

E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:59:47 PM7/24/08
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Seth wrote:
> (All of these have backscatter-spammed me.)
<SNIP 550 IPs>

In what period of time, the last day?

Last time I looked, I was getting sent 1k-10k of
backscatter per account, per day.

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Stephen Satchell

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Jul 25, 2008, 1:51:01 PM7/25/08
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sam...@gmail.com wrote:
> I believe the tactic and procedures of UCEPROTECT does more harm than
> good and as a professional ignore anything they publish and advice all
> of my clients to do the same.

That's your opinion. You are entitled to it. What you will find here
is a number of people who will not agree with you. After all,
UCEPROTECT was started by some of the regulars here on NANAE. Like most
blocking lists, the people who started the list had a specific goal.

I'm one of those people who disagree with you.

Instead of being negative, please tell us your special sauce that puts a
smile on the fact of your clients when they no longer receive huge doses
of spam.

Seth

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Jul 25, 2008, 2:40:42 PM7/25/08
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In article <Od4ik.17194$jI5....@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>,

E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists <Nu...@BlackList.Anitech-Systems.invalid> wrote:
>Seth wrote:
>> (All of these have backscatter-spammed me.)
><SNIP 550 IPs>
>
>In what period of time, the last day?

The last few months.

> Last time I looked, I was getting sent 1k-10k of
> backscatter per account, per day.

I get a lot less, but that's after all sorts of filters kick in.

Seth

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