What the hell has happened?
Dustbin
SeaMonkey was available.
Fine, click on yes download do it whatever. I normally would not hesitate.
Instead I got a mess.
My system ended up a wreck and I had to sort it out.
It set up in c:\program files\seamonkey.
No No No No - it should be in c:\program files\mozilla.org\seamonkey
So I tried to sort the mess out by reinstalling and it refused to allow
me to set the correct directory.
Eventually I tried to find the uninstall. There was an uninstall
subdirectory but no unistall programme.
I checked the version of the programme that invoked when I clicked on
the icon and it was still 1.1.18 so I deleted all the garbage in the
c:\program files\seamonkey directory. Then I tried another re-install
setting the target directory correctly and it would not let be change
the directory to the correct one: c:\program files\mozilla.org\seamonkey
I note this also says that this is a beta version not a finished
version. Is this a case of I shouldn't have downloaded this because it
is not yet ready for human consumption?
D.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
the new SM 2 is not the same as SM 1, thats why it
wants to install into a separate directory. The reason
for this is because you might have addons, extensions,
themes, etc, that are NOT compatible with the new version.
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Dustbin
I did load SM2 and it crashed my system. Then my SM1.1.18 would not work
either. I have uninstalled SM2 and to get the system stable again I
completely uninstalled SM1.1.18 and reinstalled it. Now the system is
stable again.
I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that of
Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not in
c:\program files\mozilla.org.
D.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that of
> Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not in
> c:\program files\mozilla.org.
no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
Rebmus
Its doing exactly what it is intended to do. SM 2.0 is radically
different program then 1.1.x. It installs in a new folder, so that you
can keep your old version. It migrates data to a new profile location
so that you can keep your old profile, for your old version.
SeaMonkey is an free open source program, and, unlike Firefox, is a
complete volunteer project. There is a lot of testing done, but, as
with any new software, there will be glitches. Having your old profile
available will allo you to recover any data that does not migrate.
I have been monitoring the nightly build for quite a while, and have
been running it as a full time app since 2.0a3. Once you get it
working, it is a vast improvement over 1.1.x.
By the way, the version released today is the final. It is the same as
2.0RC2. it is not a beta.
Lee
Philip Chee
> Dustbin wrote:
>
>> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that of
>> Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not in
>> c:\program files\mozilla.org.
>
> no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
Well actually not. This mess was a result of a series of flip-flops by
MoCo/MoFo. First they said that since we weren't an "official product"
we couldn't use c:\program files\mozilla\. Then there was a bit of
internal argument inside MoFo and Gerv said we could. After Mozilla
legal changed their minds several times, I lost track of where we could
or couldn't install SeaMonkey. I guess in the end KaiRo just rolled his
eyes and said "fine, we'll just install it somewhere else totally".
Phil
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:31:13 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Dustbin wrote:
>>
>>> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that of
>>> Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not in
>>> c:\program files\mozilla.org.
>> no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
>
> Well actually not. This mess was a result of a series of flip-flops by
> MoCo/MoFo. First they said that since we weren't an "official product"
> we couldn't use c:\program files\mozilla\. Then there was a bit of
> internal argument inside MoFo and Gerv said we could. After Mozilla
> legal changed their minds several times, I lost track of where we could
> or couldn't install SeaMonkey. I guess in the end KaiRo just rolled his
> eyes and said "fine, we'll just install it somewhere else totally".
>
> Phil
>
thanks for the clarification. Then again, from what
you say, they did separated themselves from Moz.
Dustbin
>
>> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that
>> of Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not
>> in c:\program files\mozilla.org.
>
> no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
>
Why should the developers want to separate themselves from Mozilla? Will
we find they are lining themselves up to start charging for it.
D.
Dustbin
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:31:13 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Dustbin wrote:
>>
>>> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially that of
>>> Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\ and not in
>>> c:\program files\mozilla.org.
>> no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
>
> Well actually not. This mess was a result of a series of flip-flops by
> MoCo/MoFo. First they said that since we weren't an "official product"
> we couldn't use c:\program files\mozilla\. Then there was a bit of
> internal argument inside MoFo and Gerv said we could. After Mozilla
> legal changed their minds several times, I lost track of where we could
> or couldn't install SeaMonkey. I guess in the end KaiRo just rolled his
> eyes and said "fine, we'll just install it somewhere else totally".
Why such a lot agro when SeaMonkey is just a rename of Mozilla Suite?
I went to SeaMonkey when Mozilla Suite was dropped.
D.
>
> Phil
>
Rex
I had 2.0 RC1 and the upgrade went fine.
And no, it's no beta. Suggest you download and run the setup from the
website.
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firefox was out and making TONS of money for them --
over 60 million U.S. dollars. They decided to drop
Mozilla Suite and concentrate their efforts on the
separate applications: Firefox and Thunderbird, so they
dropped the suite. Thats why a group of devs, users,
and other fans, didn't want to see the suite dropped.
They liked it, and wanted to see it continue. So they
formed this Council, and continued developing the
Suite. This council would make their own decissions,
their down plans, their own development, their own
marketing, etc. And all Mozilla would provide are some
resources like hosting the downloads. Moz agreed to
this, but said they couldn't use Mozilla as their name,
so they chose SeaMonkey. This was the code name the
developers used when designing Netscape.
Paying: I sure hope not.
Dustbin
> Dustbin wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> Dustbin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did find some notes saying that the core of SM2 is essentially
>>>> that of Firefox - and this is why it installed in c:\program files\
>>>> and not in c:\program files\mozilla.org.
>>>
>>> no, the devs wanted to separate themselves from mozilla
>>>
>> That's what I found on the website somewhere.
>>
>> Why should the developers want to separate themselves from Mozilla?
>> Will we find they are lining themselves up to start charging for it.
>>
>> D.
>
> firefox was out and making TONS of money for them -- over 60 million
> U.S. dollars. They decided to drop Mozilla Suite and concentrate their
> efforts on the separate applications: Firefox and Thunderbird, so they
> it continue. So they formed this Council, and continued developing the
> provide are some resources like hosting the downloads. Moz agreed to
> this, but said they couldn't use Mozilla as their name, so they chose
> SeaMonkey. This was the code name the developers used when designing
> Netscape.
>
> Paying: I sure hope not.
Same here.
D.
>
Dustbin
D.
Bryan Morris
writes
>Its doing exactly what it is intended to do. SM 2.0 is radically
>different program then 1.1.x. It installs in a new folder, so that you
>can keep your old version. It migrates data to a new profile location
>so that you can keep your old profile, for your old version.
>
I've installed /uninstalled SM 2.0 umpteen times and nothing (either
bookmarks or history etc.) has migrated from 1.1.x
(Windows 2000 Pro)
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> In message <YwOFm.20001$86....@newsfe15.iad>, Rebmus <Reb...@cox.net>
> writes
>> Its doing exactly what it is intended to do. SM 2.0 is radically
>> different program then 1.1.x. It installs in a new folder, so that you
>> can keep your old version. It migrates data to a new profile location
>> so that you can keep your old profile, for your old version.
>>
>
>
> I've installed /uninstalled SM 2.0 umpteen times and nothing (either
> bookmarks or history etc.) has migrated from 1.1.x
>
> (Windows 2000 Pro)
close SM, then click on the windows start button, then
run and enter:
C:\program files\seamonkey.exe -migration
then follow the instructions that follow. NOTE: Your
location of SM may be in a different place, so use the
correct one.
Bryan Morris
Hippo <peter.potamus.t...@gmail.com> writes
>Bryan Morris wrote:
>> In message <YwOFm.20001$86....@newsfe15.iad>, Rebmus
>><Reb...@cox.net> writes
>>> Its doing exactly what it is intended to do. SM 2.0 is radically
>>>different program then 1.1.x. It installs in a new folder, so that
>>>you can keep your old version. It migrates data to a new profile
>>>location so that you can keep your old profile, for your old version.
>>>
>> I've installed /uninstalled SM 2.0 umpteen times and nothing
>>(either bookmarks or history etc.) has migrated from 1.1.x
>> (Windows 2000 Pro)
>
>close SM, then click on the windows start button, then run and enter:
>
>C:\program files\seamonkey.exe -migration
>
>then follow the instructions that follow. NOTE: Your location of SM
>may be in a different place, so use the correct one.
>
Took me a while to work out you'd missed out the quotes i.e.
"C:\program files\seamonkey.exe" -migration
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> In message <4aeceba6$1...@news.x-privat.org>, Peter Potamus the Purple
> Hippo <peter.potamus.t...@gmail.com> writes
>> Bryan Morris wrote:
>>> In message <YwOFm.20001$86....@newsfe15.iad>, Rebmus
>>> <Reb...@cox.net> writes
>>>> Its doing exactly what it is intended to do. SM 2.0 is radically
>>>> different program then 1.1.x. It installs in a new folder, so that
>>>> you can keep your old version. It migrates data to a new profile
>>>> location so that you can keep your old profile, for your old version.
>>>>
>>> I've installed /uninstalled SM 2.0 umpteen times and nothing
>>> (either bookmarks or history etc.) has migrated from 1.1.x
>>> (Windows 2000 Pro)
>>
>> close SM, then click on the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>
>> C:\program files\seamonkey.exe -migration
>>
>> then follow the instructions that follow. NOTE: Your location of SM
>> may be in a different place, so use the correct one.
>>
>
> Took me a while to work out you'd missed out the quotes i.e.
>
> "C:\program files\seamonkey.exe" -migration
no, I didn't miss out on anything. On my system, I
don't need the quotation marks. Things work without
them. But I guess you do.