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Jeremy Robinson
Sep 17, 2009, 7:38:37 PM9/17/09
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Sep 19, 2009, 11:55:32 AM9/19/09
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Hmmm I can't give you specific advice on how to get into Sun server
maintenance. From reading the other thread it seems that John might,
but that he is unwilling to divulge the information, as it is "off
topic".
From spending the last 8 years working in the IT industry, here is
what I can tell you.
The most successful people that I have met are the ones that are
willing to read, and experiment. An education is helpful, but not
essential, to success in the IT industry. My boss has fired precisely
one person since I started. That person was the only one with a
Masters Degree and he was the least productive person in our group.
My immediate supervisor didn't even graduate from high school. He is,
however, a very good programmer. He worked his way up from entry
level positions because he is unafraid to read whatever he can get his
hands on, and he trys to learn something new every day.
The best way to learn anything, and especially anything that has to do
with computers, is to go out and do it. Academic settings help, and
look good on a resume, but they don't beat hands on experience. One
of my friends at the UW learned how to be an Oracle DBA while in the
Washington National Guard. Despite not having a degree, people where
throwing 6 figure job offers at her like ticker tape at a parade.
When I started at the UW I was probably the worst programmer in the
program. By time I left I was one of the better programmers. I
achieved this by sitting down with two partners and cranking out 5
playable games. I got my first programming job partly because I was
able to put that accomplishment on my resume. I got my second,
because I was able to look the interviewer in the eye and state that I
had taken a biometric process that a human was doing in 3 hours and
got the box to do it in 2 minutes.
So if you want to work with Sun servers, I would recommend getting a
generic IT degree. Take as many DB, and networking classes as you
can. From there get an entry level job in an IT shop and then
volunteer to work with the DB, and the servers as much as possible.
That experience will lead to bigger, and better paying, opportunities.
If you can, set up your own server at home and start playing with it.
Set up your own DB. A good starting DB project is to make an
inventory of your music and movies, in at least 3rd normal form.
Recording artist, actor, year, who has it, ... Set up some web pages
with dynamic and static content and figure out how Apache, Tomcat and
the DB all work together.
I have given the same advice to others. The ones that succeed are the
ones willing to work, and struggle. Pick a problem you are passionate
about, and come up with an IT solution. You will struggle, but you
will LEARN; and that experience will repay the sweat that you pored
into the project many times over.
I know that this is probably not the answer you are looking for, but
it is the best advice I can give to someone looking to get into the IT
industry.
Jeremy
On Sep 17, 5:38 pm, Jeremy Robinson <mrpenguin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Jeremy Robinson <mrpenguin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
maintenance. From reading the other thread it seems that John might,
but that he is unwilling to divulge the information, as it is "off
topic".
From spending the last 8 years working in the IT industry, here is
what I can tell you.
The most successful people that I have met are the ones that are
willing to read, and experiment. An education is helpful, but not
essential, to success in the IT industry. My boss has fired precisely
one person since I started. That person was the only one with a
Masters Degree and he was the least productive person in our group.
My immediate supervisor didn't even graduate from high school. He is,
however, a very good programmer. He worked his way up from entry
level positions because he is unafraid to read whatever he can get his
hands on, and he trys to learn something new every day.
The best way to learn anything, and especially anything that has to do
with computers, is to go out and do it. Academic settings help, and
look good on a resume, but they don't beat hands on experience. One
of my friends at the UW learned how to be an Oracle DBA while in the
Washington National Guard. Despite not having a degree, people where
throwing 6 figure job offers at her like ticker tape at a parade.
When I started at the UW I was probably the worst programmer in the
program. By time I left I was one of the better programmers. I
achieved this by sitting down with two partners and cranking out 5
playable games. I got my first programming job partly because I was
able to put that accomplishment on my resume. I got my second,
because I was able to look the interviewer in the eye and state that I
had taken a biometric process that a human was doing in 3 hours and
got the box to do it in 2 minutes.
So if you want to work with Sun servers, I would recommend getting a
generic IT degree. Take as many DB, and networking classes as you
can. From there get an entry level job in an IT shop and then
volunteer to work with the DB, and the servers as much as possible.
That experience will lead to bigger, and better paying, opportunities.
If you can, set up your own server at home and start playing with it.
Set up your own DB. A good starting DB project is to make an
inventory of your music and movies, in at least 3rd normal form.
Recording artist, actor, year, who has it, ... Set up some web pages
with dynamic and static content and figure out how Apache, Tomcat and
the DB all work together.
I have given the same advice to others. The ones that succeed are the
ones willing to work, and struggle. Pick a problem you are passionate
about, and come up with an IT solution. You will struggle, but you
will LEARN; and that experience will repay the sweat that you pored
into the project many times over.
I know that this is probably not the answer you are looking for, but
it is the best advice I can give to someone looking to get into the IT
industry.
Jeremy
On Sep 17, 5:38 pm, Jeremy Robinson <mrpenguin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Jeremy Robinson <mrpenguin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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