File name as caption in photo gallery
Vincent MacNamara
7 with the file name of the original photo?
Vincent MacNamara
WSP Patty
This option is not available in v7.0...however it is in v7.5. This was a
common user request we made sure to include.
Thanks,
Patty
WSP
"Vincent MacNamara" <vin...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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Vincent MacNamara
earlier message that I could use it to produce galleries for my photography
business. How can such a fundamental item have been left out? I have an
event coming up in two weeks with a thousand competitors - there's no way I
can manually name each page.Clients can't order photos if they can't see the
name of the image. I may as well have poured my money down the drain.
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John C
says...
> I may as well have poured my money down the drain.
>
sort you out.
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Chuck «gotFusion.com»
You CAN use 7 to make photo galleries. It's just that the PG function in 7.5
is improved from the one in 7.
You can add a caption in 7 pretty easily. It just isn't automated.
I'd take John up on his offer to switch the order to 7.5.
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"Vincent MacNamara" <vin...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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happy that I now have to pay an upgrade cost for one minor feature that
should have been included in the original version
I've sent you an e-mail privately
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Vincent MacNamara
If I cover a wedding I can take 400 - 500 photos. It'd take hours to caption
them all.
This to me reeks of the "bait and switch" techniques of some of the
unscruplulous discount houses that sell cameras or electronic goods at
basement prices and then charge you as much again for a mains adapter.
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Chip<><Websaviors><>
name each photo in a gallery. There is no bait and switch.
What program were you using before that automatically names a 1000 pictures?
In the photo gallery you have to place each picture in. It would take
another 2 sec to name it. So say it takes you 10 sec total per
picture....thats about 3 hours of work.
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Chuck «gotFusion.com»
I can see you're frustrated, but that's nonsense.
You just didn't match your needs to the tool. Using the Fusion Photo Gallery
to do that many pics for a single event is a bit much anyway.
You could do it, but you'd work way too hard doing it.
What you really need is Fusion to do your site and a standalone photo
gallery intended for large numbers of photos.
Something like this: http://photography-on-the.net/ee/. You can get a truly
awesome photo gallery for photographers from there. For free.
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"Vincent MacNamara" <vin...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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Vincent MacNamara
>No where in any of the advertising does it say that you can automatically
name each photo in a gallery.
It doesn't say you can't either. And since every other program that I've
tried can do it (see below), it seems reasonable to expect Fusion to do it
too. From what I can see, Fusion is aimed at small businesses like mine.
What possible use is it for selling photos when a buyer can't identify the
photo they want to buy?
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>What program were you using before that automatically names a 1000
pictures?
Photoshop's Web Photo Gallery will do it, ACDSee will do it, Thumbs + will
do it, Imatch will do it - and probably a host of others too. (and they'll
create pages with a limited number of thumbnails rather than dumping all the
thumbnails into one page) My only problem is that they create standalone
sites that I haven't been able to import into my main site.
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> thats about 3 hours of work
Are you serious? I want a program that will save me time, not cost me time
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Face it guys....it's an oversight in the program design. In her post Patty
said "This was a common user request...", so I'm obviously not the only one
that has a problem with this.
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> There is no bait and switch
From my original post (The Can I do this? thread):...... "I want to be able
to add photos from different events as and when they happen"
The answer I got........"Yes, Fusion 7 does precisely that"
When I queried....."The link you posted refers to 7.5. Do I need 7.5 or will
7 do the job?"
The answer I got........"Either version will do it.."
No mention of any difference between the two versions.
I've paid for something in good faith, and now I find it doesn't do the
specific job that I asked for. If I want to get the job done properly I have
to pay extra. That to me is as good a definition of bait and switch as I've
ever seen. I wouldn't have bought 7 if I knew it couldn't do the job, and I
probably wouldn't have bought 7.5 because of the price. Now I've two
choices. Write off the money that I've paid or shell out more. Bait and
switch, pure and simple.
"Chip<><Websaviors><>" <Nono...@business.com> wrote in message
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Katherine Faulk
With all due respect to you as being entitled to your opinion, I don't
believe I've ever read a post in any newsgroup or user forum that outraged
me as much as yours does. People who use "bait and switch" tactics are
thieves, and you are calling WSP and those connected with the selling of NOF
thieves. You obviously haven't spent much time in this newsgroup, or you
wouldn't be so quick to accuse people you know nothing about.
I can't even imagine someone assuming that because a high-end graphics
editor like Photoshop does something, a component of a Web-authoring
application would do the same thing.
You made an assumption about a piece of software, and you were wrong. Just
ask for your money back and go find the product that meets your needs.
Nobody is trying to rob you.
Katherine
Vincent MacNamara
Before buying , I asked on this newsgroup could it do a specific job. I was
told that it could.
I double checked - did I need 7.5.? I was told 7.0 would do the job.
I paid my money. I discovered it couldn't.
I discovered that if I paid more money I would get what I had originally
asked for.
All I'm asking for is what I was promised, at the price I was quoted.
Photoshop is high end, but ACDSee is a shareware image browsing package, a
component of which can do what I want, so is Thumbs +, Imatch is a database
program costing around $100, and it can do it, so it's not rocket science
Vincent
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Chip<><Websaviors><>
to add photos from different events as and when they happen
The program does that. Either version does it No one lied to you. You
can add photos and creat pages. No bait and switch.
From your question "I want to be able to add photos from different events as
and when they happen" we are supposed to infer that you wanted it to be
able to take 1000 photos and with a single key stoke creat a web page that
has all the pictures catorgized labled priced and ready to sell? If you had
asked this question can this program take 1000 photos and with a single key
stoke creat a web page that has all the pictures catorgized labled priced
and ready to sell? The answer would have been No.
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Vincent MacNamara
>
> From your question "I want to be able to add photos from different events
as
> and when they happen" we are supposed to infer that you wanted it to be
> able to take 1000 photos and with a single key stoke creat a web page that
> has all the pictures catorgized labled priced and ready to sell?
Firstly - event photography involves taking lots of photos at events. 1000
is the high end, but even if I only want to load 100 it's a pain.
I never said I wanted the photos "catorgized labled priced and ready to
sell". All I want is the file name to show up without the client having to
right click on the image .
Chuck «gotFusion.com»
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"Vincent MacNamara" <vin...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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> ..
Vincent MacNamara
Quote - "Either version will do it",
Quote - "7.0 is cost effective, while we still have stock, and does have the
photogallery feature..."
No mention of any difference in the two versions of the photo gallery
That was then, now it's :
> And you can do that...by typing a label. Takes a few seconds. Or use 7.5.
and nobody can see any inconsistency in these positions ???
I'm wasting my time.
Chuck «gotFusion.com»
No....no inconsistency at all. They're all true statements that you quoted.
Did you ask if there were differences in the photo gallery capabilities
between the two versions?
Doesn't it stand to reason that the newer version just might have
improvements?
Could it have been the price difference that led you to the older version?
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Chuck «gotFusion.com»
You are right about the fact that there's no sense in continuing the
discussion.
You aren't hearing what any of the posters are trying to tell you.
You falsely assumed, for some reason, that two different versions of a
program would have the same exact functions.
That's illogical.
Take care,
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"Vincent MacNamara" <vin...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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> Chuck,
>
> Of course it was the price difference that led me to the older version.
>
> The phrase "either version will do it" kinda made me think that either
> version will do it..
>
> We're wasting each others time. It's after 1 AM here, and I'm going to
bed.
> I see no point in continuing this discussion any further. Your company has
> another few dollars in the bank - that's obviously all that matters. I'll
> know better in future.
>
>
>
Vincent MacNamara
John C
says...
> Your company has
> another few dollars in the bank - that's obviously all that matters.
>
*me*. I want our customers to be happy and if you cancel your order
tomorrow you will be fully refunded without question. You can walk away,
or order v7.5 instead (without the discount you got for buying 7.0).
Let me know privately what you want to do.
Vincent MacNamara
I sent you a private mail this morning, but haven't had a reply. I need to
make a decision. Can you get back to me asap?
Vincent
"John C" <support@&nospam&redleaf.co.uk> wrote in message
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Tim Barker
I have been developing sites for 8 years now and I can assure you that there
is simply nothing else which can do the job that NOF does. I know, I have
done sites such as you are trying to create.
However, Photoimpact may be worth a look at. It is not a wysiwyg editor, but
it does have a photo gallery, in their 'explorer' version. I will create
pages, but you will have to upload them via ftp, link to them seperately,
etc.
If it is a matter of time, perhaps you should have started the projects
sooner. If it is a question of not knowing the product, perhaps you should
not have started the project at all until you were more familiar with NOF.
Tim
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Vincent MacNamara
> However, Photoimpact may be worth a look at. It is not a wysiwyg editor,
but
> it does have a photo gallery, in their 'explorer' version.
Lots of programs have photo gallery creators. I've mentioned four of them
earlier in this thread. As far as I can see, all of them show the name of
the photo. The only excepttion seems to be NOF7. In hindsight I realise
that I could have given more information at the start. But having seen so
many other programs that do it the way I want, I naievely (sp?) assumed that
NOF 7 would follow the "standard" procedure.
> I will create pages, but you will have to upload them via ftp, link to
them seperately,
> etc
That's what I've done in the past, but I want to make the site as integrated
looking as possible. I've tried importing a gallery using the "Import HTML
page" feature, but all I get is the first page with broken links.
> If it is a matter of time, perhaps you should have started the projects
> sooner.
It is a matter of time. The event I have coming up is a canoe race, with
over 1,000 competitors. I want to have the photos on my site when they log
on to check the results the next morning in order to maximise sales.
> If it is a question of not knowing the product, perhaps you should
> not have started the project at all until you were more familiar with NOF.
I agree.....just wish I didn't have to learn that the hard way. But that's
also why I came to the forum to ask advice..
Vincent
PS I sent John C a private mail, but he may be away, as I haven't had a
reply. Maybe someone else can answer my queries:
1. Is there any other difference in the photo gallery between 7 and 7.5?
2. Does it still place all of the thumbnails onto one page?
V
LWD
Since the "file name as caption" option interests me for my own sites, and I
don't like NOF's native photo gallery much, I thought I'd try ACD See, which
you mentioned in your post above. It worked much better (for my purposes,
at least) than the other programs you mentioned, which I also downloaded to
try out.
I've read that the 7.5 photo gallery component has been improved from 7.0,
but since there's no demo, I can't try it out myself. I seriously doubt
it's anywhere near as flexible as ACD See 5.0.
I found ACD See 5.0 easy to use, creating HTML pages with thumbnails which
linked to the larger photos they reference *automatically using my file
names and extensions*. I could configure the number of thumbnails per page,
how many columns or rows, the background color, the page title, etc. I then
imported those HTML pages into NOF and they worked fine both in local
publish and on my server, once I'd moved the referenced files to where the
thumbnails were looking for them.
The code ACDSee generates is straightforward and all that remains is to FTP
the actual photos to the server manually (although I could have brought them
into NOF as assets). The ACD See thumbnail pages use relative links (if you
specify that they do) so the thumbnails hyperlinks are set to look for the
linked (larger) photos in the same directory as the HTML page they're on. I
publish flat so I don't have any 'where's that subdirectory?' problems.
Here's the kicker: *You can make the ACD See-generated pages look any way
you want once they're in NOF.* They're just HTML, so you can change the
background color, change the font, change the title, add a background image,
etc., just as you can do with an NOF generated pages.
As an example, the thumbnails, when they come from ACDC, are in a table but
once in NOF they don't need to stay in one. ACD See does the real work.
NOF let's you make that work look however you'd like. Among other things, I
changed the page linking from the way ACD See had set it up so that I could
use an NOF master border.
If you'd like to discuss this further, email me at lucdixNOSPAM AT jamNOSPAM
DOT rrNOSPAM DOTcomNOSPAM.
L.
Johannes «TNO»
Take a look at JAlbum, it's free.
http://www.datadosen.se/jalbum/
See if you can integrate it into a Fusion generated site.
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LWD
That is *great* software. A bit tricky to understand here and there (e.g.,
how you add a watermark, etc.), but extremely flexible. I've been playing
with it for hours, will let you know when I've migrated the files into
Fusion.
Thanks!
Lucian
LWD
I've now tested JAlbum pretty extensively.
It's *very* flexible and configurable, but I wasn't able to integrate it
into Fusion well at all. Perhaps someone else might be able to. I
definitely plan to use it, will just set up the albums and put links to them
on a Fusion-generated page, upload them to the server directly via FTP.
Thanks again!
Lucian
Johannes «TNO»
Have you got any results from your investigation on JAlbum?
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LWD
As I mentioned, I personally couldn't find a way to easily integrate the
program with Fusion, but if Tami can, I'd love to know what she's found out.
I do, however, definitely plan to use it and I will simply set the gallery
up on its own, upload it to my server via FTP and make a link to it in an
NOF page. The website has a forum and FAQ's to explain the scripting you
need for the user-defined variables.
Lucian