Genesis and Peter Gabriel; The Red Hot Chili Peppers

[lu...@ucla-cs.uucp]

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In the nonsense about Duran Duran liking Peter Gabriel (Probably a publicity
stunt to irritate Gabriel fans and impress teenie boppers.) it was mentioned
that Gabriel joined Genesis. He didn't. He was in the band at it's formation
in about 1968 and left after "The Lamb.." in 1976. The most interesting
Genesis is from this period. After he left Phil Collins slowly dominated
the band at fisrt sounding exactly like Gabriel then slowly moving
the band toward his current style. The best post Gabriel Genesis is
"Wind and Withering" and "Duke" is not too bad. I think Collins
is a good drummer and should stick to drumming. (I don't like what
has become of Geneis.)

Any comments on "Baby Appel" by the Chili Peppers? Anyone heard of them
yet? They might be described as a "funky blues, punk band". They are
recently from LA. Good stuff!

There seems to be a couple of other bands out of LA that are mixing
blues, funk, reggae and punk rock. The Untouchables, Fishbone...

....Laurence
UCLA CS. Dept.
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[tan...@hsi.uucp]

>> Munch Line <<

I have to disagree with those of you who seem to categorize the post-Gabriel
Genesis as drivel.

I find Phil Collins work, both with Genesis and as a solo, to be much more
accessible then Peter Gabriel's work, both with Genesis and as a a solo.
Compare (solo) 'I Can Feel It Coming in the Air Tonight' (Collins) with
'Shock the Monkey' (Gabriel). Collins seems to be much more emotional lyrically
than Gabriel. I can identify with his style and the present Genesis much more
easily than with the early Genesis material.

Not to talk out of both sides of my keyboard but I also enjoy some of the
Gabriel-Genesis. And I do cringe when I hear such Collins-Genesis tunes as
'Illegal Alien' or 'That's All'. I find the tune 'I Don't Care Anymore'
(see MTV video) one of Phil Collins most powerful and well crafted works.

I guess it's all what you grew up with. I'm 29. I've heard 'both'
Genesis'(sssss ... :-) ). I like a little of both.

>> And now for more worms ..

A similar situation exists with Fleetwood Mac, The Doobie Bros., et al. I
like 'Bare Trees' and 'Mystery to Me' (Bob Welch-Mac). The Welch-less Mac
is just that, welchless and ludicrous. The Tom Johnston Doobies are great
and so are the Michael McDonald Doobies (I'm gonna get KILLED on this one!).
But they both produced some drivel too.

If you devour the music on today's radio stations than your mind is as
tighten closed as the door to the stall in which you entered. 8-}.

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" For every word there is a song upon which inspiration lies ..."

Ed Tankus

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[Gregory Strockbine]

>I guess it's all what you grew up with. I've heard 'both'

>Genesis'(sssss ... :-) ). I like a little of both.
>
>

>A similar situation exists with Fleetwood Mac, The Doobie Bros., et al. I
>like 'Bare Trees' and 'Mystery to Me' (Bob Welch-Mac). The Welch-less Mac
>is just that, welchless and ludicrous. The Tom Johnston Doobies are great
>and so are the Michael McDonald Doobies (I'm gonna get KILLED on this one!).
>But they both produced some drivel too.
>

Going back even further than Bare Trees is "Then Play On" Fleetwood
Mac's best album ever.

[WattIS]

Well, first off, to say that Phil Collins is a better lyricist than Peter
Gabriel is patently absurd from a quick review of their work. This also
applies double for their respective musical abilities. Collins has never
and will never pen a tune to match "Solsbury Hill", "Lay Your Hands On
Me", "Humdrum", "Waiting For The Big One", "Shock The Monkey", or the
luminescent "Biko". Collins is too busy raking in the bucks to pause to
make a great album. Although, it must be said that "Trick of The Tail"
is a great album - but Collins didn't have such a hammerlock on the
band's creative drive then as he does now. Face it - Collins is a hack,
Gabriel is an artist.

And as far as Fleetwood Mac goes, there are some *great* tunes with Bob
Welch (and no, I don't like him much either), and at least one great
album that stands right up there with "Bare Trees" and "And Then Play
On" - that album is "Mystery To Me". And to be frank, Fleetwood Mac
was going downhill long before Welch joined the band, when Peter Green
left. Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie "Please Get Me Some Cough Drops"
Nicks just sealed the envelope.

Davis Tucker
AT&T Information Systems
Denver, CO