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Carbon dioxide level catches 3 million-year-old milestone, Global warming blamed.

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Leroy N. Soetoro

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May 13, 2013, 1:23:05 AM5/13/13
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The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere,
carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported
Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the Earth for millions of
years.

Scientific instruments showed that the gas had reached an average daily
level above 400 parts per million - just an odometer moment in one sense,
but also a sobering reminder that decades of efforts to bring human-
produced emissions under control are faltering.

The best available evidence suggests that the amount of the gas in the air
has not been this high for at least 3 million years, before humans
evolved, and scientists believe the rise portends large changes in the
climate and the level of the sea.

"It symbolizes that so far we have failed miserably in tackling this
problem," said Pieter P. Tans, who runs the monitoring program at the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration that reported the new
reading.

Ralph Keeling, who runs another monitoring program at the Scripps
Institution of Oceanography in San Diego, said a continuing rise could be
catastrophic. "It means we are quickly losing the possibility of keeping
the climate below what people thought were possibly tolerable thresholds,"
he said.

Virtually every automobile ride, every plane trip and, in most places,
every flip of a light switch adds carbon dioxide to the air, and
relatively little money is being spent to find and deploy alternative
technologies.

China is now the largest emitter, but Americans have been consuming fossil
fuels extensively for far longer, and experts say the United States is
more responsible than any other nation for the high level.

The new measurement came from analyzers atop Mauna Loa, the volcano on the
big island of Hawaii that has long been ground zero for monitoring the
worldwide trend on carbon dioxide, or CO2. Devices there sample clean,
crisp air that has blown thousands of miles across the Pacific Ocean,
producing a record of rising carbon dioxide levels that has been closely
tracked for half a century.

Carbon dioxide above 400 parts per million was first seen in the Arctic
last year and had also spiked above that level in hourly readings at Mauna
Loa. But the average reading for an entire day surpassed that level at
Mauna Loa for the first time in the 24 hours that ended at 8 p.m. Eastern
time Thursday. The two monitoring programs use slightly different
protocols; NOAA reported an average for the period of 400.03 parts per
million, while Scripps reported 400.08.

Carbon dioxide rises and falls on a seasonal cycle and the level will dip
below 400 this summer as leaf growth in the Northern Hemisphere pulls
about 10 billion tons of carbon out of the air. But experts say that will
be a brief reprieve - the moment is approaching when no measurement of the
ambient air anywhere on Earth, in any season, will produce a reading below
400.

"It feels like the inevitable march toward disaster," said Maureen E.
Raymo, a scientist at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, a unit of
Columbia University.

From studying air bubbles trapped in Antarctic ice, scientists know that,
going back 800,000 years, the carbon dioxide level oscillated in a tight
band, from about 180 parts per million in the depths of ice ages, to about
280 during the warm periods between. The evidence shows that global
temperatures and CO2 levels are tightly linked.

For the entire period of human civilization, roughly 8,000 years, the
carbon dioxide level was relatively stable near that upper bound. But the
burning of fossil fuels has caused a 41 percent increase in the heat-
trapping gas since the Industrial Revolution, a mere geological instant,
and scientists say the climate is beginning to react, though they expect
far larger changes in the future.

Indirect measurements suggest that the last time the carbon dioxide level
was this high was at least 3 million years ago, during an epoch called the
Pliocene. Geological research shows that the climate then was far warmer
than today, the world's ice caps were smaller, and the sea level might
have been as much as 60 or 80 feet higher.

Experts fear that humanity may be precipitating a return to such
conditions - except this time, billions of people are in harm's way.

"It takes a long time to melt ice, but we're doing it," Keeling said.
"It's scary."

Keeling's father, Charles David Keeling, began carbon dioxide measurements
on Mauna Loa and at other locations in the late 1950s. The elder Keeling
found a level in the air then of about 315 parts per million - meaning
that if a person had filled a million quart jars with air, about 315 quart
jars of carbon dioxide would have been mixed in.

His analysis revealed a relentless, long-term increase superimposed on the
seasonal cycle, a trend that was dubbed the Keeling Curve.

Countries have adopted an official target to limit the damage from global
warming. "Unless things slow down, we'll probably get there in well under
25 years," Ralph Keeling said.

Yet many countries, including China and the United States, have refused to
adopt binding national targets. Scientists say that, unless far greater
efforts are made soon, the goal of limiting the warming will become
impossible without severe economic disruption.

"If you start turning the Titanic long before you hit the iceberg, you can
go clear without even spilling a drink of a passenger on deck," said
Richard B. Alley, a climate scientist at the Pennsylvania State
University. "If you wait until you're really close, spilling a lot of
drinks is the best you can hope for."

Climate-change contrarians, who have little scientific credibility but are
politically influential in Washington, point out that carbon dioxide
represents only a tiny fraction of the air - as of Thursday's reading,
exactly 0.0004 percent. "The CO2 levels in the atmosphere are rather
undramatic," Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., said in a congressional
hearing several years ago.

Climate scientists reject that argument, saying it is like claiming that a
tiny bit of arsenic or cobra venom cannot have much effect. Research shows
that, even at such low levels, carbon dioxide is potent at trapping heat
near the surface of the Earth.

"If you're looking to stave off climate perturbations that I don't believe
our culture is ready to adapt to, then significant reductions in CO2
emissions have to occur right away," said Mark Pagani, a Yale geochemist
who studies climates of the past. "I feel like the time to do something
was yesterday."


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emoneyjoe

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May 13, 2013, 1:57:29 AM5/13/13
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Right, and this is tomorrow, and
it is too late to do anything........

but build flood walls, cover the front
of malls with air conditioned sidewalks,
oh, that 90 degree heat makes me
sweat.

But as long as it rains more, it
won't get too hot.






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"Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in message
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> http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-a-long-
> feared-milestone-365479
>
> The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere,
> carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported
> Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the Earth for millions of
> years.

GOOD !

Historically speaking, current levels of CO2 are UNUSUALLY LOW
geological record shows us that the planet was at it's most productive and
fertile vis-a-vis plant and animal life was when CO2 levels were MARKEDLY
HIGHER than they are now.


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On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:29:46 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
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> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in message
> news:XnsA1BEE4729...@202.177.16.121...
> > http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-a-long-
> > feared-milestone-365479
> >
> > The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere,
> > carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported
> > Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the Earth for millions of
> > years.

> Historically speaking, current levels of CO2 are UNUSUALLY LOW

No.


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On Fri, 17 May 2013 19:42:24 -0600, Desertphile
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>On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:29:46 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA1BEE4729...@202.177.16.121...
>> > http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-a-long-
>> > feared-milestone-365479
>> >
>> > The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere,
>> > carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported
>> > Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the Earth for millions of
>> > years.
>
>> Historically speaking, current levels of CO2 are UNUSUALLY LOW
>
>No.

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"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
news:o3ndp8d1eq7t77ab5...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:29:46 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA1BEE4729...@202.177.16.121...
>> > http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-a-long-
>> > feared-milestone-365479
>> >
>> > The level of the most important heat-trapping gas in the atmosphere,
>> > carbon dioxide, has passed a long-feared milestone, scientists reported
>> > Friday, reaching a concentration not seen on the Earth for millions of
>> > years.
>
Historically speaking, current levels of CO2 are UNUSUALLY LOW
>>
>> GOOD !
>>
>> Historically speaking, current levels of CO2 are UNUSUALLY LOW
>> Geological record shows us that the planet was at it's most productive
>> and fertile vis-a-vis plant and animal life was when CO2 levels were
>> MARKEDLY HIGHER than they are now.
>
> No.
>

Funny how you have to cut the meat of my post to spout your ignorant denial
Here's a lovely graph for the stupid ignorant deniers such as you
<http://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/budyko1977.gif>
Notice the historical trend has been DECREASING from a Maximum of about 4000
ppm of CO2

So how many ppm of CO2 are you morons babbling about ?
A couple of hundred ?
How does that compare to 4000 ??



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