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Keith Wesley  
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 More options Sep 21 2010, 1:02 pm
From: Keith Wesley <drwes...@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:02:22 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 21 2010 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [NAEMSP Dialog] Re: Prehospital Pain Management
I found the study.

Prehosp Emerg Care. 1998 Oct-Dec;2(4):304-7.

Emergency medical services transport of patients with headache: mode of arrival may indicate serious etiology.

Nemer JA, Tallick SA, O'Connor RE, Reese CL.

Department of Emergency Medicine, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, Pennsylvania, USA.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE: To determine whether mode of arrival is associated with seriousness of etiology and use of diagnostic testing in patients treated in the emergency department for headache.

METHODS: This observational, retrospective study was conducted by consecutive review of the records of patients presenting to the emergency department with a chief complaint of headache from December 1994 through May 1995. Patients with altered mental status or seizures were excluded. Mode of arrival was classified as either by EMS or other (e.g., private vehicle). Patients with a final diagnosis of meningitis, intracranial hemorrhage, or central nervous system tumor were classified as having serious causes, whereas those with headache due to migraine, tension headache, or headache that was otherwise unspecified were classified as nonserious. The use of diagnostic studies, such as lumbar puncture or CT scan, and their results, was recorded. Patients were included in the category of patients having serious intracranial pathology even if the diagnosis was delayed. Statistical analysis was performed using the Yates-corrected chi-square test, and by determining odds ratios (ORs) with 95% confidence intervals.

RESULTS: For 967 patients presenting with a chief complaint of headache, 837 charts were included in the analysis. A total of 102 patients arrived by EMS, and 735 arrived by other means. Patients arriving by EMS had a higher rate of serious cause of headache than did those arriving by other means (OR = 18.5, p < 0.0001). EMS patients tended to undergo additional diagnostic testing (OR = 4.4, p < 0.0001), and those tests were more likely to be abnormal than for those arriving by other means (OR = 9.4, p < 0.0001). Males had a somewhat higher rate of serious diagnosis (OR = 2.6, p < 0.05).

CONCLUSIONS: In this EMS system, patients with headache who arrive by EMS are more likely to have serious causes. Mode of arrival may be of use to the clinician in assessing risk of serious illness among patients with headache. Whether this observation represents an element of self-triage or a combination of other factors remains to be determined.

With that said. I'd like to see the numbers from our colleague in Alaska. If there are that many "frequent flyers" causing problems then perhaps something needs to be addressed locally as Tarrant County did.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Tarrant-ambulance-service-reaches-out-...

Keith Wesley, MD

On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, ADAM THOMPSON, EMT-P wrote:

> Dr. Wesley,

> Presuming that article was based on evidence, do you remember the
> title of the study?  That would be an abstract worth reading.  How do
> we fix the problem that is subpar pain management by utilizing
> evidence?  Do we obtain tox-screens on all non-recipients of pain
> management, and use those results to quantify the prehospital
> provider's ability to judge who is or is not a drug seeker?  I
> actually think that is an idea worth looking in to, but more-so I
> think taking your approach may lead to an improved level of care.
> Consider the patient complaining of pain to truly be in pain until
> proven otherwise.

> As for the sub-standard state guidelines for prehospital pain
> management go, that is very unfortunate.  I would like to hear that
> there is a change in the works.  I have also heard of restrictive
> protocols that only allow the paramedic to administer certain pain
> therapies after receiving online medical direction.  I have heard many
> stories of systems like this, and the paramedics within them becoming
> discouraged after continually being refused when attempting to obtain
> valid orders.  Is anyone aware of any research done on systems like
> these?  Does anyone work in one of these systems?

> Adam Thompson, EMT-P
> Lee County EMS
> EMS Educator - Edison State College
> Paramedicine101.com
> EMSresponder.com
> Lee County, Florida

> On Sep 20, 5:06 pm, Keith Wesley <drwes...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Erik has hit one of the crucial points. Simply put, drug seekers do not use 9-1-1. They don't want a shot, they want a prescription. I remember an article awhile back about Headache patients and EMS. Headache patients are a frequent source of drug seekers but this article showed that patients with a compliant of headache that came by EMS were almost always sick and had a real need for evaluation and care.

>> Interestingly, the current edition of the Carolyn AAOS Paramedic text devoted 2 pages to identifying drug seekers. This is not appropriate. No more than blowing someone off with a complaint of chest pain because you just don't believe them.

>> Keith Wesley,MD

>> On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Erik Davis wrote:

>>> Hello!

>>>   My name is Erik and I am new to the discussion group.  I have been in the Pennsylania Emergency Medical Services for twenty-three years with the last seventeen years as a Nationally Registered Paramedic.  I am very interested in learning about the constant changes that are occuring in pre-hospital medicine.

>>>    I am happy that pain management has become a priority in the pre-hospital management of a patient even though it was way overdue. However, I think the biggest issue that faces pre-hospital providers are the "drug-seekers" and the concern of an Emergency Room physician/nurse saying "oh this guy is a drug-seeker how did you fall for that?"
>>> Unfortunately, people who frequently abuse the system will create stereotypes and fear which results in hesitation on performing pain management.  My question is how do we train our younger providers, physicians, and nurses to overcome this stereotype and at the same time recognize someone who is abusing the systems and is attempting to feed into an addiction?

>>> Erik Davis AS, NREMT-P
>>> Mercy Health Systems
>>> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Mic Gunderson <mic.gunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> (Re-posted on behalf of Michael Daliey [to keep the entire discussion
>>> within the same thread])

>>> On Sep 15, 4:18 pm, Mic Gunderson <mic.gunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Great question Art. Frankly, pain management should not alter a
>>> neurologic exam if titrated appropriately. Gentle and judicious,
>>> improvement of discomfort, rather than a goal of removal of all pain.
>>> Some other postings have commented on protocols for opiate
>>> administration rather than fixed doses, and giving the medication the
>>> patient requires for pain. With guidance from a weight based dosing,
>>> this may be the best way to go. May there be a case that the pain is
>>> needed for diagnosis? Perhaps. But if you use a short acting agent
>>> like fentanyl, in most cases the medication will be wearing off prior
>>> to the physician getting to the bedside.
>>> Michael W. Dailey, MD FACEP
>>> Director of Prehospital Care and Education
>>> Associate Professor of Emergency Medicine
>>> Albany Medical Center
>>> 518/ 262-3773

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