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Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

jbburg...@gmail.com (Jon Burgess) — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:05:18 UT

Just thought I'd point out that there's practically no way anyone will
be using HD-DVD in their next console. The format is 100% dead.
Toshiba stopped manufacturing the discs completely in 2008 and I think
that overhauling one of their factories to put the discs back into
production just so that one company could use them would be too cost

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

raven31...@yahoo.com — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:14:09 UT

Good point!
I wonder if they (or anyone else in a business that stands to profit from such a line of thinking) have thought of that. Though, I suppose it all depends on when they release their next system...whether or not something else piques their interest.

I don't think they intended the download stuff to be that heavily pushed, more a temptation. After all, they were trying to focus on drawing in the typically-non-gamer audience...who may also be non-internet (or at least non-broadband) folks too.

Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

cvdnthill...@gmail.com (Deddiekoel) — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:26 UT

The point is that the HD-DVD tech is pretty dead, but it was fully
developed. So if Nintendo uses this format there are very little
drives out there to facilitate home pirating. They'll probably get a
nice deal from Toshiba who should be keen to recover a little coin on
their investments.
Nintendo will probably stick to a real medium for their next

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

raven31...@yahoo.com (Raven Stormbringer) — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:23:45 UT

I'm not sure why you would think there would need to be so may servers per game. Under the download-to-your-own-HDD method, you could definitely fit more than 10 games on a server. Even if the server had only a single HDD (which is unlikely) I'd imagine *at least* 2TB... so unless games got seriously larger and so badly coded their was no compression to the install file, I can't see why you couldn't get 100-1000 new games on a drive.

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

aliensrcoo...@yahoo.co.uk (Andrew Burton) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:02:58 UT

So I guess if this new shebang goes ahead, you would have to pay to play all existing games on the service again.
Not to mention the number of servers required for this... I mean, say 10 servers per game and 1000 games... that's an awful lot of servers - and that's just an example.
Whilst you would lose the whole packaging thing, you would have a huge increase an energy consumption, as those servers would be on 24/7, unlike our games consoles which are only on when we use them.

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

raven31...@yahoo.com — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:26:55 UT

Actually, MS has ready been dipping their feet heavily into those waters...as has Nintendo! LIVE Arcade title are downloads, as are play-on-demand and XBox Originals. Nintendo has been doing not just the VC titles, but WiiWare and DSiWare.

While I too prefer having some physical thing to hold forever, that enables me to play years later...the cost to produce those formats as well as their effect on the environment in packaging as well as defunct carts or discs have been gradually swaying many companies to offer digital formats (maybe not as sole versions, but at least as alternatives)

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

aliensrcoo...@yahoo.co.uk (Andrew Burton) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:54:33 UT

Whilst that may be cool for some people, I hate that idea.
1) Games will never be supported "forever". Atleast with a disc-based medium I can play it whenever I want regardless of whether the company has gone under, or removed support for that game.
2) I love having my games consoles. Not only are most of them well designed, some of them are damn sexy (Japanese Sega Saturn springs to mind).

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

nsc...@gmail.com — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:45:08 UT

Nintendo may well adopt hd-dvd. It's dirt cheap. And they could latch on their own security algorithms just like they're doing now with the wii. It'll be cracked in the end like everything else has.

The most important thing for the next console to be a success. Is that it'll be easy to port games across platforms.

Re: [N-Scene] Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

tom...@aol.com (Tom Legare) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:37:15 UT

HD-DVD is even easier to crack than Blu-Ray and it still required licensing
fees.
Hell, even using HDMI requires licensing fees.
My belief is that HD-DVD is dead forever.
Tom

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I've been expecting new hardware for a while now. But now that sales

Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

avran...@gmail.com (Vran) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:02:49 UT

Disks will become obsolete as soon as the cloud becomes more stable,
and as more people move to broadband connections. A number of
companies are working towards this end already, Netflix, MS, On live.
I know these are technologies that have yet to be proven.
Check out this as the future.
[link]

Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

cvdnthill...@gmail.com (Deddiekoel) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:45:25 UT

I've been expecting new hardware for a while now. But now that sales
are structurally down it may happen. My thoughts:
Based on the last few years it will be an upgrade. In line with cube
to Wii step and the strategy with the DS!
I do hope the hardware will be on par with the PS3 & 360. That will
make the platform interesting for 3rd parties and crossplatform

Re: [N-Scene] Mario Bros Wii

nsc...@gmail.com — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:24:19 UT

That's a good point actually. They might have seen it elsewhere bought a few and sold it on to this shop for a profit.

That must be the reason. Because if it ain't there's a lot of sorry gamers out there.

I am gonna play t game quite a few times over. It is really very good.

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Re: [N-Scene] Mario Bros Wii

raven31...@yahoo.com (Raven Stormbringer) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:19:55 UT

When I see that kinda thing here, it tend to be after a really good deal that non-gamers cashed in on and just made a quick turnaround for the cash.
To: "Nintendo Scene" <N-Scene@googlegroups.com>
What is going on here? Am in my local games exchange in Camden, there's a load of second hand Mario Bros Wii games up for sale (at least 30). So soon after Christmas, I hope the gamers completed the game at least before selling it on. The good news for me is that is selling for quite a bit more than what I paid for it!

Re: Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

obrya...@gmail.com (StarKnightX) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:58:48 UT

@Dave
With Blu-ray being the future of the (physical) medium , I think both
Microsoft and Nintendo will eventually end up having to use them in
their systems at some point in the future. It might not be with either
of their next set of hardware , but unless either of them decide to go
digital only , dvd won't be able to hold out for games for much

Re: [N-Scene] Nintendo and Intel in Talks on New Console Rumor Suggests

aliensrcoo...@yahoo.co.uk (Andrew Burton) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:57:29 UT

I own it (I think it came with one of the Turok games on the N64, but it was exclusive to HMV), and it's sat with all my other videogame music CD's (mostly bought from [link] ). I also have a promo CD containing music from Midnight Club: Dub Edition too (in a cardboard sleeve).
Regards,
Andrew B