I'm a Blackberry Curve user. I have no idea what kind of market
opportunity this would be however.

I have been looking for a decent task manager for months and was
previously using a combination of Chandler (PC) + Palm TX + BlackBerry
Pearl + Paper notes to manage my tasks and was forever getting in a
muddle. I recently downloaded MLO and, so far, I am very impressed. It
would be great if there was a BlackBerry app or at least a way to sync
to my BlackBerry.

One thing that has occurred to me: The app could be written in Java (I
think that's what it is, anyway), meaning that it would be possible to
write one app (with a few tweaks for full BlackBerry compatibility)
which could support a wide variety of phones. Opera Mini is a
successful example of this approach.

If so, (assuming you using, or have a copy of Outlook), you could sync
your tasks from MLO to Outlook, and then on to the Blackberry.  That's
what I did when I was using a Palm TX.  Now I'm using Pocket PC, so
enjoying the benefits of having the MLO Client directly on the
Device.  The Outlook method is definitely doable however, assuming the
Blackberry has the software to support syncing.  You would not have
all the feature set of MLO, but you would at least be able to track
your todos, as well as create tasks for later processing and
organizing in the MLO Desktop client.

Phil.

On Mar 11, 11:08 am, ct-esq <john.rads...@gmail.com> wrote:

Andrey.

On Jun 10, 8:18 pm, Gourami <m...@slsinvestigations.co.uk> wrote:

On 12 Jun., 20:20, Andrey <for...@myLifeOrganized.net> wrote:

and when it not work on the iphone --> no blackberry version?!
I mean a blackberry version of mlo is for the market (and your
bussiness) better, why - (my) 5 arguments:
1) there are not gtd/todo applikations for blackberry (i find no...)
2) many people in jobs use a blackberry and not a iphone
3) many iphone user used mac-os and not windows for desktop-mlo
(Release MLO Desktop for MAC?!)
4) there a realy good gtd/todo applikations for iphone (thinks, ...)
5) and finally - i need/dream of/wish a blackberry mlo version for my
blackberries ...

bg robert

The day that MLO comes out for iPhone I will purchase an iPod Touch to
replace my aging PDA and carry that around along with the Blackberry.

The trouble with BB tasks begins with the worthlessness of the Outlook
task function.  Now that I have figured out through the advanced
Outlook Sync feature to sync only the action items on the task list
view, the integration with Outlook is pretty damn good and allows me
to sync those tasks with categories/contexts with the BB.  But
navigating and filtering tasks by category on the BB is slow and
visually horrible - it is virtually unusable.  I really don't need the
full functionality of the OLM desktop on my BB.  I primarily want an
outline view that can expand and collapse - everything else will be
frosting on the cake.  I am a project manager and a simple task list
is just too unwieldy.

Most of the iPhone market is made up by consumers using it as a web
toy and competing in that app market will be like shouting across a
packed football stadium to a friend on the other side.  Take care of
us in the BB business market.  I can't believe you won't be quickly
rewarded for your efforts.

On Jun 12, 11:20 am, Andrey <for...@myLifeOrganized.net> wrote:

Andrey.

On Jun 20, 1:28 am, akpigfan <b...@rmbco.com> wrote:

please used this "good" time to talk about a blackberry version of MLO
and
get your request of blackberry version here. Andrey is thinking about
a BB version.
To use jointly to run a chance first: blackberry then iphone...

bg Robert, Austria.

I appreciate this is a very fragmented approach if supporting multiple
mobile platforms for MLO but there is no clear winner yet in the the
mobile market.

Win Mobile - I think this platform should get continued support as
there are so many devices already and Windows Mobile Version 7 ,
although a year off, seems to be Microsofts big push to capture market
share back from Apple.
Iphone - has lots of task managers already available - though only one
other actually priortises your to do list (LB), the rest are very
basic. "Things" is the most popular but is basic.
Palm Pre - people seem impressed with the new OS, it seems to be
taking off with nearly 1 million application downloads already. The
advantage of getting in early I think is an argument here.
Android - also seems to be taking off , with lots of handsets coming
out this year.
Blackberry - lots of users though many of the devices are locked down
I suspect as they are in corporate use - I suspect these types of
users do not buy applications online.

There is an interesting write up of the smartphone market and
application marets here:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2009/06/a-tale-of-two-sm...

On 20 June, 10:53, Andrey <for...@myLifeOrganized.net> wrote:

Nick

I'll put in my vote for Android...  I am very optimistic about the long-term
outlook for the Android OS.  But currently, there is not even an outline app
for my new G1....  grrrr!

On Jun 22, 2009 2:27 AM, "Nick Clark" <Nick.cl...@trilobeit.co.uk> wrote:

Of course the biggest market of all would be Symbian S60, but no touch
screen.

Nick

To elaborate a tad...

I just got a new phone this past week, my husband was not willing/wanting 2
switch carriers.  T-mobile's offerings for WM phones were all at least 2
years old & were not on the 3G network.  Besides, I'm quite frankly "over"
the bloat and frustrations inherient in WM...  elegant may describe some
apps, but NOT the OS itself.

This is my first "smartphone", I've been lugging around a PDA & a "freebie"
cell for the past fewyears - time to consolidate... easier said than done.

I was prepared to get the blackberry 8900, but then the sales clerk told me
BBs don't work with spreedsheets, a dealbreaker for my work (I do virtual
assistant work on an independant contractor basis.)  In truth there is a 3rd
party workaround for this problem, which I didn't immediately think to ask
about.

I have always had a bit of a love affair with linux, while not actually
marrying it...  the open-source aspect of Android appealed to me.  Not to
mention the larger screen.  The G1 was $50 less than the BB model I was
looking at, the screen is larger, I loved the geek factor of the barcode
scanner which can be used to compare prices, shazam (tag & identify songs),
and numerous other free applications in the Android Marketplace... they even
have a bio-password keeper which scans your eye/iris - I haven't tried that
one yet.

But the lack of even a decent outliner program is killing me...  I am about
to try exporting MLO to a spreedsheet, that way at least I'll have access to
my MLO lists on the Android...  I've been using MLO for 4+ years, but never
upgraded from desktop version 1.9x.

The two GTD Android apps I've found thusfar do not look as if they will ever
be full-fledged PM programs....  but they do offer the ability to set GPS
locations for contexts.  I have not kept current with the most recent
updates of MLO-PPC, maybe this is now a feature of MLO-PPC?

Bottomline, I am probably not your target market, since I am too cheap to
pay even for MLO upgrades ;-)

But...   from what I saw this week, I'd say BB is much moreso your target
market than the I-phone or the Android, but I can't help but wonder how
difficult it maybe to develop a MLO app for the BB, since spreedsheats seem
to have been a hurdle for BB & still are not supported w/o a third-party
app.

In the US blackberry is THE standard for business professionals and BB
enterprise and business users are willing to pay for their apps...  perhaps
BB purposefully did not provide native support for spreedsheats to give a
bone to their 3rd-party app developers?

I personally think Android will ONE DAY give BB a run for it's money, but
that day is not yet today...  jumping aboard the Android platform now may
allow MLO to position itself as the killer work-production app, seriously,
timing is EVERYTHING !

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the Android platform has
a exclusive deal with T-Mobile.  They are the only carrier offering the
Android platform in the US right now, because they are the 1st to offer
Android.

I-Phone, by contrast, is exclusively offered by AT&T for the foreseeable
future...  it's hot, no doubt, but it's not necessarily a "business
tool"...  but - I could be wrong, I didn't look very closely at the I-Phone
since we were not looking to switch carriers.

Still for creative Mac-eccentric groups MLO may have a strong GTD, 43folders
following for an I-Phone version.

Anyhoo, that's my analysis.

~ Susan Davis

Another note, a few years back, when I was following the MLO-PPC group
rather closely, several ppl left the group saying their company was
switching to BB.  You may want to do some research to see what the migration
trends maybe....  I think you will find more migrations to BB than to any
other platform.

On Jun 27, 2009 3:52 PM, "Susan Davis" <davis.su...@gmail.com> wrote:

To elaborate a tad...

I just got a new phone this past week, my husband was not willing/wanting 2
switch carriers.  T-mobile's offerings for WM phones were all at least 2
years old & were not on the 3G network.  Besides, I'm quite frankly "over"
the bloat and frustrations inherient in WM...  elegant may describe some
apps, but NOT the OS itself.

This is my first "smartphone", I've been lugging around a PDA & a "freebie"
cell for the past fewyears - time to consolidate... easier said than done.

I was prepared to get the blackberry 8900, but then the sales clerk told me
BBs don't work with spreedsheets, a dealbreaker for my work (I do virtual
assistant work on an independant contractor basis.)  In truth there is a 3rd
party workaround for this problem, which I didn't immediately think to ask
about.

I have always had a bit of a love affair with linux, while not actually
marrying it...  the open-source aspect of Android appealed to me.  Not to
mention the larger screen.  The G1 was $50 less than the BB model I was
looking at, the screen is larger, I loved the geek factor of the barcode
scanner which can be used to compare prices, shazam (tag & identify songs),
and numerous other free applications in the Android Marketplace... they even
have a bio-password keeper which scans your eye/iris - I haven't tried that
one yet.

But the lack of even a decent outliner program is killing me...  I am about
to try exporting MLO to a spreedsheet, that way at least I'll have access to
my MLO lists on the Android...  I've been using MLO for 4+ years, but never
upgraded from desktop version 1.9x.

The two GTD Android apps I've found thusfar do not look as if they will ever
be full-fledged PM programs....  but they do offer the ability to set GPS
locations for contexts.  I have not kept current with the most recent
updates of MLO-PPC, maybe this is now a feature of MLO-PPC?

Bottomline, I am probably not your target market, since I am too cheap to
pay even for MLO upgrades ;-)

But...   from what I saw this week, I'd say BB is much moreso your target
market than the I-phone or the Android, but I can't help but wonder how
difficult it maybe to develop a MLO app for the BB, since spreedsheats seem
to have been a hurdle for BB & still are not supported w/o a third-party
app.

In the US blackberry is THE standard for business professionals and BB
enterprise and business users are willing to pay for their apps...  perhaps
BB purposefully did not provide native support for spreedsheats to give a
bone to their 3rd-party app developers?

I personally think Android will ONE DAY give BB a run for it's money, but
that day is not yet today...  jumping aboard the Android platform now may
allow MLO to position itself as the killer work-production app, seriously,
timing is EVERYTHING !

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the Android platform has
a exclusive deal with T-Mobile.  They are the only carrier offering the
Android platform in the US right now, because they are the 1st to offer
Android.

I-Phone, by contrast, is exclusively offered by AT&T for the foreseeable
future...  it's hot, no doubt, but it's not necessarily a "business
tool"...  but - I could be wrong, I didn't look very closely at the I-Phone
since we were not looking to switch carriers.

Still for creative Mac-eccentric groups MLO may have a strong GTD, 43folders
following for an I-Phone version.

Anyhoo, that's my analysis.

~ Susan Davis

BlackBerry, PalmPre, Google Andriod, Noika SmartPhones, Windows Mobile and
the IPhone - that's six platforms to develop for with a separate code base
for each. There is no winning for Andrey in this situation unless he's got 7
development teams.

Rather than try to fill in all the platforms maybe it would easier to
provide a web based app - that might also help people who occasionaly have
to work from computers that aren't their own. While Andrey's dev team
doesn't rival Google's - nonetheless its an example. I use gmail on the
IPhone in preference to the IPhone email application.

Cheers
Mark

You are welcome to join.

A.