Music Ontology Specification Group Google Group

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-23T20:26:54Z

Hello!
Right, I think I begin to understand what you're coming at. But you
explicitly said you wanted to use your mapper in an "offline" mode?
Because if you're willing to use external URIs, why not just stating
something like
<[link]>
mo:published_as <your_mp3>.

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-23T19:59:01Z

As you seem to admit, it is not possible to distinguish between two
different releases of the same album (like, between the CD and
cassette release). If I understand well, such a specific release is an
instance of mo:Record. This is exactly why I advocate NOT mapping the
tags of an MP3 to a specific mo:Record.

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-23T18:33:22Z

Hello!
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Antoine Zimmermann
Well, my only point is that this distinction is not made in ID3! And
it looks a bit unachievable to translate things that don't exist in
the initial data format :-)
So I completely agree with you: with both a track title and an album
name, you can't make this distinction, so don't worry about it :-)

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-23T18:03:18Z

Good.

If I understand well, it means that the TITLE ought to be mapped to a
specific release, like "1997 UK CD release". Why not the "1981
cassette release"? Why not the vinyl release? And why not the online
MP3 release? How can you discriminate between these releases with only
a tracktitle and album name?

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-20T12:21:35Z

Hello!
We have an IRC channel on freenode if you want: #musicontology
As I mentioned in my previous email, I don't really agree. The content
of the TITLE field in ID3 is the "as published" title.
Agreed
Same thing, I don't really think you need to get in mo:MasterSignal.
The content of the ALBUM field relates to the "as published" title

Re: Developing an ID3tag2RDF converter using the Music Ontology

2008-07-18T12:56:17Z

Hi,

The discussion is getting more and more technical. We are getting very
close to an agreement, but it becomes more difficult to point to the
subtleties in our slight subsisting disagreements.
It would be best if we could actually *talk* about it. I also believe
that it could make an interesting paper. Something like "Mapping ID3

Re: Artist RDF on bbc.co.uk/music

2008-07-17T14:13:38Z

Hello!
It looks really nice :-)
As a side-note:
mo:homepage and mo:member are two new properties susbsuming
respectively foaf:homepage and foaf:member. They are in the live OWL
ontology, but not yet in the documentation (will be in the next round
of revision).
Cheers!
y

Artist RDF on bbc.co.uk/music

2008-07-17T14:07:21Z

Hello,
I am working on getting some RDF on to bbc.co.uk/music.
Here is an example of what we plan to start off with:
[link]
At the moment all of this is just MusicBrainz data (apart from the image)
but we will be adding more BBCness in the future...

Re: Draft of a schema for Level 1

2008-07-15T14:07:50Z

Hello!
I found another nice diagram (attached) in W.J.A. Verheijen master's
thesis, available at:
[link]
(Really interesting thesis, btw)
It also shows how some other vocabularies are mixed with MO in the
Jamendo RDF ([link]).

Fwd: C4DM Seminar: Wednesday 16th July 16:00 - "Social music meets the Semantic Web"

2008-07-11T14:15:54Z

Hello!
For those of you around London on Wednesday, Alexandre Passant will
give a seminar at Queen Mary.
Cheers!
y
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meets the Semantic Web"
To: C4DM Seminars List <seminar-...@elec.qmul.ac.uk>
Dear all,
At 16:00 on Wednesday 16th July, Alexandre Passant will present a

Re: Thoughts about the concepts of the MO, and mapping ID3 tags to MO data

2008-07-11T10:59:06Z

Hello Antoine!
Ok! I was thinking of MasterSignal for this concept, to be more
aligned with the in-progress Musicbrainz schema. What do you think?
Subclassing of MusicalManifestation is inherited from the current
axiom mo:Track subClassOf mo:Record.
I agree it doesn't make any particular sense (and is weird from an

Re: Thoughts about the concepts of the MO, and mapping ID3 tags to MO data

2008-07-11T10:16:24Z

Ok, so in fact, I believe that what I called Album is in fact a
mo:Signal, not a mo:Record.
And what I called Release is in fact a mo:Record.

1) The concepts

a) Albums

Informally, we have the word album which designates 3 different
notions.

The album as the result of a recording of a music performance (or

Re: Draft of a schema for Level 1

2008-07-10T16:51:36Z

One of my neighbors apparently had fun with my wireless router today :-)
Everything should be fine now.
Cheers!
y

Re: Draft of a schema for Level 1

2008-07-10T16:43:10Z

Arg. My DNS just got hijacked.

Re: Draft of a schema for Level 1

2008-07-10T16:39:42Z

I got a 404 on that.