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> As promised we've just released data for John Peel > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the > Pops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under > creative commons. Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with nowplaying > api. Both the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with > MusicBrainz IDs.
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really nice to see u recently - we should meet up more often
in other news the bbc (and last.fm) have /finally/ signed data licence deals with MusicBrainz... so mr robert finally has some money. yeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
-----Original Message----- From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf of Yves Raimond Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 1:33 PM To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc data released
Cool!
I already started to hack a bit with this:-) I'll let you know when I have something interesting to show!
Cheers! y
2007/6/19, Michael Smethurst <Michael.Smethu...@bbc.co.uk>:
> Hi all
> As promised we've just released data for John Peel > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the > Pops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under > creative commons. Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with nowplaying > api. Both the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with > MusicBrainz IDs.
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Well, I cheated a bit - I virtually know some people who were at the hack day :-)
> really nice to see u recently - we should meet up more often
Sure!!! Let's plan some beers for the beginning of July!
> in other news the bbc (and last.fm) have /finally/ signed data licence deals with MusicBrainz... so mr robert finally has some money. yeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
> really nice to see u recently - we should meet up more often
> in other news the bbc (and last.fm) have /finally/ signed data > licence deals with MusicBrainz... so mr robert finally has some > money. yeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
> ;-)
> -----Original Message----- > From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf > of Yves Raimond > Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 1:33 PM > To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bbc data released
> Cool!
> I already started to hack a bit with this:-) I'll let you know when I > have something interesting to show!
> Cheers! > y
> 2007/6/19, Michael Smethurst <Michael.Smethu...@bbc.co.uk>:
>> Hi all
>> As promised we've just released data for John Peel >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the >> Pops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under >> creative commons. Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with >> nowplaying >> api. Both the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with >> MusicBrainz IDs.
>> - Proms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proms) data >> (definitely) >> http://www.bbc.co.uk >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> personal >> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> reliance >> on it and notify the sender immediately. >> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> Further communication will signify your consent to this.
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interestingly (or not) one of the next items on the /music backlog is to make artists and albums addressable using brainz ids. There's not much there (about 2000 artists / 6000 album reviews) but it's growing fairly rapidly and it'll be one more node on the web of data (copyright Tom Coates <cite>http://www.plasticbag.org/archives/2006/02/my_future_of_web_apps_slides/</cite>)
not sure how i managed to persuade editorial people that this was a better use of time than pulling in more bloody flickr bloody photos but they seem convinced
-----Original Message----- From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf of Nicholas J Humfrey Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 1:47 PM To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc data released
That is indeed very good news :)
Looking forward to MusicBrainz IDs returning to the last.fm website (and the BBCs!).
nick.
On 19 Jun 2007, at 13:38, Michael Smethurst wrote:
> damn ur quick - that's cool
> really nice to see u recently - we should meet up more often
> in other news the bbc (and last.fm) have /finally/ signed data > licence deals with MusicBrainz... so mr robert finally has some > money. yeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
> ;-)
> -----Original Message----- > From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf > of Yves Raimond > Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 1:33 PM > To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bbc data released
> Cool!
> I already started to hack a bit with this:-) I'll let you know when I > have something interesting to show!
> Cheers! > y
> 2007/6/19, Michael Smethurst <Michael.Smethu...@bbc.co.uk>:
>> Hi all
>> As promised we've just released data for John Peel >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the >> Pops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under >> creative commons. Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with >> nowplaying >> api. Both the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with >> MusicBrainz IDs.
>> - Proms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proms) data >> (definitely) >> http://www.bbc.co.uk >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >> personal >> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in >> reliance >> on it and notify the sender immediately. >> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> Further communication will signify your consent to this.
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we'll try and find a nice pub with tables big enough for the proposed new brainz schema
think/hope ull find a lot of music-ontology thinking in there
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> damn ur quick - that's cool
Well, I cheated a bit - I virtually know some people who were at the hack day :-)
> really nice to see u recently - we should meet up more often
Sure!!! Let's plan some beers for the beginning of July!
> in other news the bbc (and last.fm) have /finally/ signed data licence deals with MusicBrainz... so mr robert finally has some money. yeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
:-D
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However, I am wondering if you would be willing to create RDF out of this, like you do with the ".xml" extension. It shouldn't be a big modification, does it?
> As promised we've just released data for John Peel > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the Pops > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under creative commons. > Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with nowplaying api. Both > the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with MusicBrainz IDs.
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-----Original Message----- From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf of Frederick Giasson Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 2:27 PM To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc data released
Hi Micheal,
This is really great!
Will play with it too.
However, I am wondering if you would be willing to create RDF out of this, like you do with the ".xml" extension. It shouldn't be a big modification, does it?
Would be willing to help you out with this.
Take care,
Fred
> Hi all
> As promised we've just released data for John Peel > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the Pops > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under creative commons. > Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with nowplaying api. Both > the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with MusicBrainz IDs.
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btw how do you people feel about rdf-a? been playing around with microformats a lot recently but the more exposure i get the less i think the uf people know what they're doing...
-----Original Message----- From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf of Frederick Giasson Sent: Tue 6/19/2007 2:27 PM To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc data released
Hi Micheal,
This is really great!
Will play with it too.
However, I am wondering if you would be willing to create RDF out of this, like you do with the ".xml" extension. It shouldn't be a big modification, does it?
Would be willing to help you out with this.
Take care,
Fred
> Hi all
> As promised we've just released data for John Peel > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel) and Top of the Pops > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_pops) under creative commons. > Also a demo app of 'clickable tracklists' with nowplaying api. Both > the Tracklist and TOTP sites have been impregnated with MusicBrainz IDs.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this.
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> btw how do you people feel about rdf-a? been playing around with microformats a lot recently but the more exposure i get the less i think the uf people know what they're doing...
Well - instead of embedding data into documents, i'd rather generate documents from the data, using small APIs such as RAP, swi, sparql ajax clients, etc. But there seems to be quite an amazing buzz around rdf-a (and other grddl-able languages), so I may be missing an important point here!
I just put online the John Peel data. The mapping to the music ontology was extremely straight forward - I just had to create one new concept to handle the transmission date (mo:Transmission, which is an event). Otherwise, everything was already into MO!
It is *not linked* to anything external right now - i will link it to an instrument taxonomy, musicbrainz, geonames, and maybe last.fm snippets later on.
The description of a session stands as follows:
work ----> performance (session) ---> recording ---> record, track, etc.
I will write a more detailed post about how I did this (and I will put online all the code), but basically it is just a small prolog script wrapping the bbc data, which is then translated to RDF using P2R.
Well, it is really well defined, and it really shows all the expressiveness power of MO. Now, I think, we can say that it can mostly describe anything related to music.
This usecase is a really interesting one to show to producers and publishers of musical data.
-----Original Message----- From: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com on behalf of Frederick Giasson Sent: Tue 7/10/2007 9:21 PM To: music-ontology-specification-group@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bbc data released
Hi Yves,
Just two words: Good Work!
Well, it is really well defined, and it really shows all the expressiveness power of MO. Now, I think, we can say that it can mostly describe anything related to music.
This usecase is a really interesting one to show to producers and publishers of musical data.
Take care,
Fred
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Some of you probably noticed that there was a bug with the Zitgist RDF Browser when you were clicking on one of these URIs in your web browser?
In fact there was a really deep issue that was only happening with a really special pattern:
The issue was that some of Yves's resources are not typed (were not, since he is supposed to type them now or eventually today). So, if for a given URI there was no type resources, the Zitgist RDF Browser was simply redirecting the user to this URI. However, the issue is raised at that moment, since dbtune's server was re-directing the user (via 303) to the Zitgist RDF Browser. You notice the loop? So it is why there was a bug in the generated page.
So, atm, the bug is fixed, and a message explaining the situation is displayed to the user, however, in a near future, I will check to handle untyped subjects in the zitgist rdf browser.
So, as soon as Yves typed the resources, these examples will work perfectly in the zitgist browser.
> I just put online the John Peel data. The mapping to the music > ontology was extremely straight forward - I just had to create one new > concept to handle the transmission date (mo:Transmission, which is an > event). Otherwise, everything was already into MO!
> It is *not linked* to anything external right now - i will link it to > an instrument taxonomy, musicbrainz, geonames, and maybe last.fm > snippets later on.
> The description of a session stands as follows:
> work ----> performance (session) ---> recording ---> record, track, etc.
> I will write a more detailed post about how I did this (and I will put > online all the code), but basically it is just a small prolog script > wrapping the bbc data, which is then translated to RDF using P2R.
