>On 15 June 2012 18:53, Etienne Robillard <animelo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
>>> Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
>>> getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
>>> 2.x.
>> Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is
>> absurd.
>> So without much efforts I can guess ports like Skype will become
>> more widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security,
>> preferring to announce critical security vulnerabilities once the
>> exploit has been confirmed without any warnings.
>> A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
>> something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for
>> stability reasons...
>New versions of Skype require ALSA. This is at their insistence.
So, are you implying that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
is never going to happen on a FreeBSD system?
By the way, thanks to "Etienne Robillard <animelo...@gmail.com>" for
completely changing the thread subject.
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese <r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
> to break code and make a opensource version
That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
time.
Rich Neese writes:
> >> Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
> >> getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
> >> 2.x.
<deletia>
> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd
> version. time to break code and make a opensource version
That would be a lot of work, and subject to Skype altering
with the protocol and various internal bits.
Last time this came around on the gee-tar, I believe the root
problem was higher versions don't work with the Linux emulation
code. Improving that would also be a lot of work (probably
involving different skills) ... but would benefit all programs that
run under emulation.
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese<r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
>> to break code and make a opensource version
> That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
> altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
> rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
> my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
> time.
> It is written in Python, and it is GPL. There is a MacOS binary and a
> Windows binary download of it on their website.
> http://icanblink.com/index.phtml
__________
Thanks for the intelligent answer, I could have not said anything better.
Will look into SIP/Blink for a more secure alternative than skype... :-)
No, the aswer is Skype still. Why? Because Skype use user of Windows 3.1 to
Windows 7, MAC, Linux...
How many people use FreeBSD? Does FreeBSD user comunicate just with the
other FreeBSD user?
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese <r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
> > to break code and make a opensource version
> That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
> altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
> rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
> my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
> time.
> It is written in Python, and it is GPL. There is a MacOS binary and a
> Windows binary download of it on their website.
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> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese<r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
>> to break code and make a opensource version
> That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
> altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
> rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
> my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
> time.
Skype supports video calls. According to AG Projects' website, Blink is a VoIP app with IM features added, no video. Is this not the case?
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Franci Nabalanci <lum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, the aswer is Skype still. Why? Because Skype use user of Windows 3.1 to
> Windows 7, MAC, Linux...
> How many people use FreeBSD? Does FreeBSD user comunicate just with the
> other FreeBSD user?
Please reread my post to the list. I was describing an open source
SIP client written in Python. It is not restricted to FreeBSD, it can
run anywhere you like. You should modify what you said to How many
other people have telephone numbers? And how many people use SIP?
Otherwise what you asked doesn't make any sense.
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<list_free...@bluerosetech.com> wrote:
> On 2012-06-15 14:25, Robert Simmons wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese<r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
>>> to break code and make a opensource version
>> That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
>> altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
>> rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
>> my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
>> time.
> Skype supports video calls. According to AG Projects' website, Blink is a
> VoIP app with IM features added, no video. Is this not the case?
I dislike video, so I have never even looked for that feature, but now
that I'm looking, no it doesn't support video. I was curious, so I
googled alternatives to Blink and I ran across Linphone. Has anyone
used this? It exists in the FreeBSD ports collection, but is a few
versions behind the current stable version from the project's website.
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Darren Pilgrim
> <list_free...@bluerosetech.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-06-15 14:25, Robert Simmons wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Rich Neese<r.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I just wish skype would get off their buts and make a bsd version. time
>>>> to break code and make a opensource version
>>> That's not the answer. Really, everyone needs to move away from Skype
>>> altogether. Use Blink. It is a superior client and it uses SIP
>>> rather than Skype's network. Making a FreeBSD port of it has been on
>>> my list of things to do for quite a while, I just haven't had the
>>> time.
>> Skype supports video calls. According to AG Projects' website, Blink is a
>> VoIP app with IM features added, no video. Is this not the case?
> I dislike video, so I have never even looked for that feature, but now
> that I'm looking, no it doesn't support video. I was curious, so I
> googled alternatives to Blink and I ran across Linphone. Has anyone
> used this? It exists in the FreeBSD ports collection, but is a few
> versions behind the current stable version from the project's website.
You might look at ekiga. It is in ports and a standard part of Gnome.
It does sip and also claims to support H.323 conferencing, but I have
not had much success making it work with our H.323 system. I will
admit that I have not tried in a while, though.
-- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Kevin Oberman <kob6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You might look at ekiga. It is in ports and a standard part of Gnome.
> It does sip and also claims to support H.323 conferencing, but I have
> not had much success making it work with our H.323 system. I will
> admit that I have not tried in a while, though.
I remember looking at Ekiga when I was trying out different SIP
clients last year, and what turned me off is the gnome thing. I am a
KDE user, so Blink being a qt application means it is a KDE camp
application.
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> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:12:58 +0100
> Chris Rees articulated:
> >On 15 June 2012 18:53, Etienne Robillard <animelo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 06/15/2012 01:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
> >>> Skype 4.0 for Linux is now available. Is there any possibility of
> >>> getting it ported to FreeBSD? The latest version in ports is only
> >>> 2.x.
> >> Why not? Thinking FreeBSD could become immune to remote exploits is
> >> absurd.
> >> So without much efforts I can guess ports like Skype will become
> >> more widespread now that FreeBSD has gived up on network security,
> >> preferring to announce critical security vulnerabilities once the
> >> exploit has been confirmed without any warnings.
> >> A good reason to stop using this bloated OS if you ask me and use
> >> something more respectful to their users base relaying on STABLE for
> >> stability reasons...
> >New versions of Skype require ALSA. This is at their insistence.
> So, are you implying that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
> is never going to happen on a FreeBSD system?
"Waitman Gobble" <uzi...@da3m0n8t3r.com> wrote:
> dude like since MS bought it they haven't even released any non-win32
> version. i agree, a different alternative to skype is better, and get
> your contacts to join up with that.
If you don't count Mac, Android, and some other ..
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:41:55 +0300
Ion-Mihai Tetcu articulated:
> 0 chances. As a market we're not significant at all for them.
> Even Linux isn't, not really.
I totally agree with your FreeBSD assessment; however, I believe that
they are very interested in keeping and potentially expanding their
Linux base. In fact, it would seem counter productive to do otherwise.
From a purely business point of view, to jettison a user base, even if
it does generate a $0 ROI, is not a wise decision if that base does not
require extensive investments to keep pacified. There is always the
possibility that at some future point that base could prove profitable.
Once jettisoned, it would be hard to reacquire. Basic business 101.
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Jerry writes:
> From a purely business point of view, to jettison a user base,
> even if it does generate a $0 ROI, is not a wise decision if that
> base does not require extensive investments to keep pacified.
... and that depends on your definition of "extensive
investments".
A better case might be that Linux users are more likely to be
choosing technology others will use, and keeping them familiar and
happy with your product line is a indirect and fairly cheap form of
marketing.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 08:26:10AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
> Jerry writes:
> > From a purely business point of view, to jettison a user base,
> > even if it does generate a $0 ROI, is not a wise decision if that
> > base does not require extensive investments to keep pacified.
> ... and that depends on your definition of "extensive
> investments".
> A better case might be that Linux users are more likely to be
> choosing technology others will use, and keeping them familiar and
> happy with your product line is a indirect and fairly cheap form of
> marketing.
This pretty much applies to anything that relies on network effects to
maintain userbase -- stuff that is only useful if other people are using
it too, that is.
