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Jonas Lund

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Jan 29, 2009, 7:22:16 PM1/29/09
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I've had enough of spam and crackpot-newsletters now. And i'm on the
verge of unsubscribing as i guess instituting full moderation wouldn't
be very practical (i'm sure most people don't get paid for sitting
here)

Altho just leaving and complaining won't help anybody (and i do love freebsd).

So....
Isn't there some kind of auto-moderation system that could be placed
in (Plugin or whatever)? Like delaying the mails for an hour for all
newly subscribed users (so kicking people off the list will force them
to re-list) and then just sending the mail in advance to "moderators"
that would have simple link that would remove the mail from the queue.
(Maybe one hit on the link would delay the mail futher and several
clicks within the timespan would kill it).

This way message will get through by default but annoying stuff
wouldn't affect everybody.

Just another 2C
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Julian Stacey

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Feb 1, 2009, 7:35:36 AM2/1/09
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Hi,
Reference:
> From: Jonas Lund <whiz...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:22:16 +0100
> Message-id: <436c7eda0901291622v35f...@mail.gmail.com>

Jonas Lund wrote:
> I've had enough of spam and crackpot-newsletters now. And i'm on the
> verge of unsubscribing as i guess instituting full moderation wouldn't
> be very practical (i'm sure most people don't get paid for sitting
> here)
>
> Altho just leaving and complaining won't help anybody (and i do love freebsd).
>
> So....
> Isn't there some kind of auto-moderation system that could be placed
> in (Plugin or whatever)? Like delaying the mails for an hour for all
> newly subscribed users (so kicking people off the list will force them
> to re-list) and then just sending the mail in advance to "moderators"

NO. No human censors Please,
Latin approx: Quis Custodes Custodiensis.
English: Who guards us from the guardians
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
(I have observed such corruption on a non BSD list)

> that would have simple link that would remove the mail from the queue.
> (Maybe one hit on the link would delay the mail futher and several
> clicks within the timespan would kill it).
>
> This way message will get through by default but annoying stuff
> wouldn't affect everybody.
>
> Just another 2C

Best thing is to first look at which tools & config freebsd.org
currently use for their lists. Then look at what other full automatic
anti spam tools are ready & available to integrate. ie this whol
topic does not belong on hardware@, its a generic background to all lists,
so should be discussed with the FreeBSD postmaster team.

Cheers,
Julian
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Rich Kulawiec

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Feb 1, 2009, 8:15:15 AM2/1/09
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:22:16AM +0100, Jonas Lund wrote:
> Isn't there some kind of auto-moderation system that could be placed
> in (Plugin or whatever)?

It's much simpler than that. This list is run by Mailman. It's
a matter of a couple of clicks in a web interface to change the list
settings so that (a) mail from known subscribers is passed through
and (b) mail from everyone else is held for moderator attention.
This is by no means a panacea, but it does cut out a great deal
of the noise, thereby allow more focused attention on whatever
manages to escape this measure.

---Rsk


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Kayven Riese

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Feb 2, 2009, 1:31:14 AM2/2/09
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-----owner-freebsd-hardware@fre ebsd.org wrote: -----

To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
From: "Julian Stacey" & lt;j...@berklix.org>
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Da te: 02/01/2009 04:35AM
Subject: Re: Suggestion for "moderation"
< font size="3" face="Courier New,Courier,monospace">Hi,
Reference:
> From: &n bsp; Jonas Lund <whiz...@gmail.com>
> Date: ; Fri, 30 Ja n 2009 01:22:16 +0100


> Message-id:
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Jonas Lund wrote:

> I've had enough of spam and crackpot-newsle tters now. And i'm
on the
> verge of unsubscribing as i guess institu ting full moderation
wouldn't
> be very practical (i'm sure most peop le don't get paid for
sitting
> here)
>
> Altho just lea ving and complaining won't help anybody (and i do


love freebsd).
> > So....
> Isn't there some kind of auto-moderation system that could be
placed

> in (Plugin or whatever)? Like delaying the mails fo r an hour


for all
> newly subscribed users (so kicking people off the list will
force them
> to re-list) and then just sending the mail in advance to
"moderators"
NO. No human censors Please,

&nbs p; Latin approx: Quis Custodes Custodiensis.
[DEL: :DEL] English: Who guards us from the guardia ns


"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"

(I have obse rved such corruption on a non BSD list)


> that would have simple link that would remove the mail from the
queue.

> (Maybe one hit on t he link would delay the mail futher and
several
> clicks within the t imespan would kill it).


>
> This way message will get through by default but annoying stuff
> wouldn't affect everybody.
> > Just another 2C

Best thing is to first look at which tools &a mp; config


freebsd.org
currently use for their lists. Then look at what other full
automatic
anti spam tools are ready & available to integrate. ie this whol
topic does not belong on hardware@, its a generic background to
all lists,
so should be discussed with the FreeBSD postmaster team.
Cheers,
Julian

IMHO, FreeBSD does a great job of this
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