'Sponsorship Scandal' - Tory style
whitebread
other people." - Stephen Harper
'If you want to be a MAJORITY government, you have to buy Conservative-friendly
ridings with taxpayers' money'. - Stephen Harper principle
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Ottawa - The Globe and Mail - Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009
A high-profile Harper government stimulus program created to build hockey rinks and other
recreation projects has funnelled about 33 per cent per cent more money to Conservative
seats than to opposition ridings in the battleground province of Ontario.
An analysis by The Globe and Mail shows Tory ridings received an average of $2.1-million,
compared to $1.5-million on average for opposition ridings.
The Globe chose to study the Recreational Infrastructure Canada program (RInC) spending in
Ontario for three reasons: Ontario is the most important electoral battleground for the
Conservatives and if there's one province where the Tories would have motive to please
voters, this would be it.
Plus, spending on playgrounds, rinks, arenas and soccer fields is also high-impact public
works expenditure that voters would arguably notice more readily than road-construction
projects. Finally, the Ontario data on RInC projects is readily available from the
government, in stark contrast to the patchwork of reporting on spending under other
infrastructure programs.
The figures were also confirmed separately by the federal Liberal Party.
Infrastructure critic Gerard Kennedy, whose party also released a study today with similar
results, said the partisan bias under the Ontario RInC program is unacceptable.
"In effect, Mr. Harper is saying that some children who need recreation facilities are
worth less than others, that some unemployed Canadians who need jobs are worth less than
others, simply if they live in the majority of ridings that did not elect a member of his
party," Mr. Kennedy said. "It's utterly unacceptable."
Justin Case
It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
recession, but they had no control over that
Orion
<snip>
> It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
> and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
> recession, but they had no control over that
I don't think the Liberals have really thought this one through.
If having a Conservative MP gets your riding more government
largesse, might that not be a reason for *more* people to vote
Conservative in these difficult (for some) economic times?
whitebread
> <snip>
>> It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
>> and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
>> recession, but they had no control over that
That's true. If Paul Martin was still PM, the economy would not be in the mess it is.
"Orion" <Ori...@hush.com> wrote in message
news:39fde8ab-17a7-4ce8...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> I don't think the Liberals have really thought this one through.
>
> If having a Conservative MP gets your riding more government
> largesse, might that not be a reason for *more* people to vote
> Conservative in these difficult (for some) economic times?
You've just described what the Cons are all about: buying votes with taxpayer dollars.
One day we'll have a government that puts our dollars where it's most needed?
whitebread
>
>>> On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Justin Case <antoniava...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
>>>> and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
>>>> recession, but they had no control over that
"whitebread" <white...@shop.ca> wrote:
>>That's true. If Paul Martin was still PM, the economy would not be in the mess it is.
"E. Barry Bruyea" <terml...@democracy.com> wrote
> As Paul Martin accomplished absolutely nothing in his term as liberal
> in chief, that has to be one of more ridiculous statements this year.
>>"Orion" <Ori...@hush.com> wrote in message
>>news:39fde8ab-17a7-4ce8...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>> I don't think the Liberals have really thought this one through.
>>>
>>> If having a Conservative MP gets your riding more government
>>> largesse, might that not be a reason for *more* people to vote
>>> Conservative in these difficult (for some) economic times?
"whitebread" <white...@shop.ca> wrote:
>>You've just described what the Cons are all about: buying votes with taxpayer dollars.
>>One day we'll have a government that puts our dollars where it's most needed?
The Harper gang made 'taxpayer money to party supporters' such a major issue back in
2005/06 that it became known as 'the Sponsorship Scandal' and used it to bring down the
Liberal government. Now the Harper gang is doing the same thing and expects voters not to
notice? Well, not all of us are blind ......
Justin Case
> >>> On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Justin Case <antoniava...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>>> It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
> >>>> and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
> >>>> recession, but they had no control over that
> >>That's true. If Paul Martin was still PM, the economy would not be in the mess it is.
>
> > As Paul Martin accomplished absolutely nothing in his term as liberal
>
> > in chief, that has to be one of more ridiculous statements this year.
> >>"Orion" <Ori...@hush.com> wrote in message
> >>news:39fde8ab-17a7-4ce8...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> >>> I don't think the Liberals have really thought this one through.
>
> >>> If having a Conservative MP gets your riding more government
> >>> largesse, might that not be a reason for *more* people to vote
> >>> Conservative in these difficult (for some) economic times?
> >>You've just described what the Cons are all about: buying votes with taxpayer dollars.
> >>One day we'll have a government that puts our dollars where it's most needed?
>
> The Harper gang made 'taxpayer money to party supporters' such a major issue back in
> 2005/06 that it became known as 'the Sponsorship Scandal' and used it to bring down the
> Liberal government. Now the Harper gang is doing the same thing and expects voters not to
> notice? Well, not all of us are blind ......
The reason the Liberals were brought down was that a criminal
conspiracy to defraud the public purse operated in close vicinity of
the PMO. We find out today from the Corbeil hearing that the Chretien-
Martin civil war was at the root of that kickback scheme. They were
used to pay Chretien supporters. Kinsella's infamous memo took care of
starving out Martin's supporters.
Corbeil, LeMay, Corriveau, Gosselin... the hits keep coming and
coming.
Agamemnon
So. What you are saying is that if someone did it before, doing so in
the future is justified? Especially when Harper said it would never
happen again?
OK. Harper said "The West Wants In" "The West Is In!"
Then he dumped a fortune of tax payer dollars on Quebec to win votes.
His cabinet consists of Ontario people. Not Albertans.
Do you still defend him? Or are you just against the Liberals?
klunk
"E. Barry Bruyea" <terml...@democracy.com> wrote in message
news:7703e51o3uu2sb3di...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:42:34 -0700, "whitebread" <white...@shop.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>> On Oct 21, 9:24 pm, Justin Case <antoniava...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> It's a conspiracy between the Conservatives, the provincial Liberals
>>>> and the mayors. First the Liberals were counting on an even worse
>>>> recession, but they had no control over that
>>
>>That's true. If Paul Martin was still PM, the economy would not be in the
>>mess it is.
>
> As Paul Martin accomplished absolutely nothing in his term as liberal
> in chief, that has to be one of more ridiculous statements this year.
ya... besides balancing the budget, creating equality for gays, softening
repressive prohibition laws which only support criminal empires, creating a
framework for instituting a national daycare program that the cons have
pissed away with their pittance giveaways down a drain... yer reich... he
did did nothing a reichtoid could appreciate...
klunk
"Agamemnon" <agamem...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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the reich wing these days stands for nothing except being against anything
and everything supported by the left... they have no ideas, just
idiotologies.... no rationale, just rabid reactionarianism.... no solutions,
just obstacles... no compromising attitude, just obstinacy... no desire to
work with anyone who disagrees, just fascistic demands for compliance with
their myopia.... no objectivity, just objections... no hope for a
cooperative future, just jackboots to step on anyone who gets in their way
of getting what they can for themselves... not a care in the world for the
world they live in beyond how it can serve their self-serving and transient
desires... no spirit of giving and supporting, just taking and crushing...
no ability to see the world through any eyes other than those focused on
their navels... no love for anyone other than the fake love they have for
themselves which they use like drugs to hide from their self-loathing... no
spirituality beyond the plastic jesus figurines they smack everyone else
with... no consistency in their beliefs beyond reacting against anything and
everything which represents what they believe does not conform to their
inherited perceptions of a world which is far too complex and abstract for
their concrete minds to apprehend...