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Janet Wider
Jul 24, 2012, 3:58:33 PM7/24/12
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I use TB as a newsreader. In the pane with the message there was an
icon on top for "reply" It's not there any longer. The two icons that
are now there are pretty useless to me.
I have tried to "customize" this area but the only icons that remotely
resemble "reply" is "smart reply" and try as I may, I can't move it into
the pane where the message is.
I am using the reply icon in the tool bar, so I'm not at a loss, but it
was just so convenient to have that same little button inside the pane
with the message.
I'm attaching a screen shot so that you can see that there are only two
icons inside the message pane and none of them are "reply"
http://i50.tinypic.com/o8w7du.jpg
Please don't criticize my format. This is how I like to read my usenet
groups. of course, YMMV
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
icon on top for "reply" It's not there any longer. The two icons that
are now there are pretty useless to me.
I have tried to "customize" this area but the only icons that remotely
resemble "reply" is "smart reply" and try as I may, I can't move it into
the pane where the message is.
I am using the reply icon in the tool bar, so I'm not at a loss, but it
was just so convenient to have that same little button inside the pane
with the message.
I'm attaching a screen shot so that you can see that there are only two
icons inside the message pane and none of them are "reply"
http://i50.tinypic.com/o8w7du.jpg
Please don't criticize my format. This is how I like to read my usenet
groups. of course, YMMV
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
Mortman
Jul 24, 2012, 4:10:29 PM7/24/12
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It's now called "Followup". It has
a dropdown menu which includes "Reply".
Followup should be used when replying the the usergroup in general. Reply implies a response to a particular writer.
Followup should be used when replying the the usergroup in general. Reply implies a response to a particular writer.
Mike Easter
Jul 24, 2012, 5:24:07 PM7/24/12
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Mortman wrote:
> Janet Wider wrote:
>> I use TB as a newsreader. In the pane with the message there was an
>> icon on top for "reply" It's not there any longer. The two icons that
>> are now there are pretty useless to me.
> Janet Wider wrote:
>> I use TB as a newsreader. In the pane with the message there was an
>> icon on top for "reply" It's not there any longer. The two icons that
>> are now there are pretty useless to me.
>> I'm attaching a screen shot so that you can see that there are only two
>> icons inside the message pane and none of them are "reply"
>>
>> http://i50.tinypic.com/o8w7du.jpg
>> icons inside the message pane and none of them are "reply"
>>
>> http://i50.tinypic.com/o8w7du.jpg
> It's now called "Followup". It has a dropdown menu which includes "Reply".
> Followup should be used when replying the the usergroup in general.
> Reply implies a response to a particular writer.
Except her screenshot doesn't look like my message pane icons.
> Followup should be used when replying the the usergroup in general.
> Reply implies a response to a particular writer.
I don't know what kind of theme she is using, but my linux Tb14 message
pane icons have both tiny icon and text on the buttons:
Followup Forward Archive
... where followup has menu/arrow options for changing to Reply and
Reply All, whereas her left icon has no text and no arrow/menu function.
She is posting here XP Tb14. My XP Tb13 is like my linux Tb14 in terms
of message pane buttons and menu as described above.
--
Mike Easter
Keith Nuttle
Jul 24, 2012, 5:44:34 PM7/24/12
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Either she has a theme running that has significantly changed the icons
displayed or she need to go in to Customize (right click in her right
pane header) and drag the appropriated icons back to that panes header.
Keith Nuttle
Jul 24, 2012, 5:46:03 PM7/24/12
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Ron K.
Jul 24, 2012, 6:03:40 PM7/24/12
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Mike Easter on 7/24/2012 5:24 PM, keyboarded a reply:
When TB went Aero for Vista/Win7 default theme, the XP default became
Gnome like. Also, the small icon size was reduced from 22px to 16px to
conserve vertical screen use.
--
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported Major Error used BSOD to msg the enemy!
Gnome like. Also, the small icon size was reduced from 22px to 16px to
conserve vertical screen use.
--
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported Major Error used BSOD to msg the enemy!
David E. Ross
Jul 24, 2012, 6:06:00 PM7/24/12
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Thunderbird menu or tool bar -- before you right-click to get the
pull-down context menu for Customize. The icon for Reply appears to be
the same as for Smart Reply.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>.
Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
� 1997 by David E. Ross
Peter Holsberg
Jul 24, 2012, 7:33:53 PM7/24/12
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Perhaps "Other actions"?
Janet Wider has written on 7/24/2012 3:58 PM:
Janet Wider has written on 7/24/2012 3:58 PM:
Ron Hunter
Jul 24, 2012, 8:18:40 PM7/24/12
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message' item that is greyed out in the dropdown menu when clicking
'from' in a message WINDOW. What ARE they doing?
WLS
Jul 24, 2012, 8:29:42 PM7/24/12
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profile.
The "Create Filter From...", is not greyed out in the drop down menu
when clicking 'from' in any of my message panes, tabs or Windows.
--
openSUSE 12.1 | KDE 4.7.2
Thunderbird Beta with Lightning
Janet Wider
Jul 24, 2012, 11:58:49 PM7/24/12
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I'm the OP.
I am running on XP SP3. The latest non-beta TB update. The only
extensions are: Test Pilot for TB 1.39 and Quote Highlight 1.07
Appearance is "default 14.0"
The screen set up is a standard TB choice.
I am running on XP SP3. The latest non-beta TB update. The only
extensions are: Test Pilot for TB 1.39 and Quote Highlight 1.07
Appearance is "default 14.0"
The screen set up is a standard TB choice.
Janet Wider
Jul 25, 2012, 12:01:50 AM7/25/12
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"space", "smart reply" and "tag".
I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
is what I was missing.
Thanks.
Tarkus
Jul 25, 2012, 1:05:11 AM7/25/12
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On 7/24/2012 9:01 PM, Janet Wider wrote:
> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>
> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
> is what I was missing.
What is Smart Reply?
> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>
> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
> is what I was missing.
Ron Hunter
Jul 25, 2012, 3:22:23 AM7/25/12
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from message' greyed out in the reply (followup) window.
An other suggestions. I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
Ron K.
Jul 25, 2012, 4:29:05 AM7/25/12
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Tarkus on 7/25/2012 1:05 AM, keyboarded a reply:
Smart Reply is the new button replacing Reply. It is account intelligent
and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
Mike Easter
Jul 25, 2012, 6:45:59 AM7/25/12
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Ron Hunter wrote:
types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
Followup replies to the newsgroup.
Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
From/Reply-To
Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
In some news 'cultures' it could be common practice for posters to
routinely give a good address in the From or Reply-To. Then the
respondent could choose to reply to the poster 'privately' by mail
*instead of* posting to the newsgroup -or- reply to the poster privately
by mail and also reply to the newsgroup -or- simply reply to the
newsgroup, which is what I always do.
The news cultures to which I typically interact almost entirely do not
want to be emailed privately and in fact don't even put a good address
in the From and no Reply-To, so the Reply and Reply All functions are
not appropriate in those cultures. So a good address in the From or
Reply-To is an exception rather than common. Sometimes one can
determine a good address for a poster and usually not.
Some other configurations of giving the 3 choices to a respondent have
sometimes resulted in respondents making mistakes about replying to the
poster by email by accident, unintentionally. I think the current
configuration is 'better' at giving all of the options while making it
less likely to send email by accident.
--
Mike Easter
>> Janet Wider wrote:
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
Followup replies to the newsgroup.
Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
From/Reply-To
Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
In some news 'cultures' it could be common practice for posters to
routinely give a good address in the From or Reply-To. Then the
respondent could choose to reply to the poster 'privately' by mail
*instead of* posting to the newsgroup -or- reply to the poster privately
by mail and also reply to the newsgroup -or- simply reply to the
newsgroup, which is what I always do.
The news cultures to which I typically interact almost entirely do not
want to be emailed privately and in fact don't even put a good address
in the From and no Reply-To, so the Reply and Reply All functions are
not appropriate in those cultures. So a good address in the From or
Reply-To is an exception rather than common. Sometimes one can
determine a good address for a poster and usually not.
Some other configurations of giving the 3 choices to a respondent have
sometimes resulted in respondents making mistakes about replying to the
poster by email by accident, unintentionally. I think the current
configuration is 'better' at giving all of the options while making it
less likely to send email by accident.
--
Mike Easter
Ron Hunter
Jul 25, 2012, 9:31:14 AM7/25/12
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On 7/25/2012 3:29 AM, Ron K. wrote:
> Tarkus on 7/25/2012 1:05 AM, keyboarded a reply:
>> On 7/24/2012 9:01 PM, Janet Wider wrote:
>>> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
>>> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>>>
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>> What is Smart Reply?
>
> Smart Reply is the new button replacing Reply. It is account intelligent
> and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
>
Very confusing as the usual usage for 'followup' is to move a reply to a
> Tarkus on 7/25/2012 1:05 AM, keyboarded a reply:
>> On 7/24/2012 9:01 PM, Janet Wider wrote:
>>> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
>>> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>>>
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>> What is Smart Reply?
>
> Smart Reply is the new button replacing Reply. It is account intelligent
> and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
>
different group from the OP. This can only cause users to wonder...
Ron Hunter
Jul 25, 2012, 9:33:50 AM7/25/12
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reply to email and newsgroup.
The usage for 'followup' seems to be to change newsgroups.
Cal Tinson
Jul 25, 2012, 10:06:39 AM7/25/12
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On 7/25/2012 9:31 AM eastern, Ron Hunter wrote:
> Very confusing as the usual usage for 'followup' is to move a reply
> to a different group from the OP. This can only cause users to
> wonder...
Also confusing is that it doesn't appear (and can't be customized) in
> Very confusing as the usual usage for 'followup' is to move a reply
> to a different group from the OP. This can only cause users to
> wonder...
the Mail Toolbar, where Reply works as it always has.
WLS
Jul 25, 2012, 10:15:25 AM7/25/12
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from the OP? What newsreader have you been using that does that?
In the Pan newsreader which has had "Followup to Newsgroup" for ever
since I've been using it, the post follows up in that newsgroup.
The other posting options are "Post to Newsgroup", and "Reply to Author
in Mail".
Thunderbird has finally caught up with proper posting convention.
David E. Ross
Jul 25, 2012, 11:39:33 AM7/25/12
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On 7/25/12 3:45 AM, Mike Easter wrote [in part]:
Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
this more confusing?
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>
>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>> is what I was missing.
>
>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>
> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>
> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
> From/Reply-To
> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>
[snipped]
>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>
>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>> is what I was missing.
>
>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>
> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>
> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
> From/Reply-To
> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>
Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
this more confusing?
David E. Ross
Jul 25, 2012, 11:48:52 AM7/25/12
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correctly. If it is following a design found elsewhere, such
lemming-like implementation is still incorrect.
Jay Garcia
Jul 25, 2012, 11:51:50 AM7/25/12
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On 25.07.2012 08:31, Ron Hunter wrote:
--- Original Message ---
> Very confusing as the usual usage for 'followup' is to move a reply to a
> different group from the OP. This can only cause users to wonder...
No, you're confused. "Followup" means to "Reply". "Followup Set To"
means replies are set to another group. Or you could also say "Replies
Set To" as well, means the same thing.
--
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Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/
Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org
Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/
--- Original Message ---
> Very confusing as the usual usage for 'followup' is to move a reply to a
> different group from the OP. This can only cause users to wonder...
means replies are set to another group. Or you could also say "Replies
Set To" as well, means the same thing.
--
Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird
Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/
Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org
Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/
Jay Garcia
Jul 25, 2012, 11:54:47 AM7/25/12
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On 25.07.2012 08:33, Ron Hunter wrote:
--- Original Message ---
--- Original Message ---
alone. If I post a question and request that you "followup", what are
you going to do? If I request that you "folloup to xxxx group" what are
you gong to do?
Jay Garcia
Jul 25, 2012, 11:57:25 AM7/25/12
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On 25.07.2012 10:39, David E. Ross wrote:
--- Original Message ---
--- Original Message ---
> On 7/25/12 3:45 AM, Mike Easter wrote [in part]:
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>>
>>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
>> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>>
>> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
>> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
>> From/Reply-To
>> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
> Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
> this more confusing?
>
That is correct, "Followup" alone doesn't set to another group, but
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>>
>>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
>> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>>
>> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
>> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
>> From/Reply-To
>> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
> Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
> this more confusing?
>
"Followup Set To xxx.group" does. Followup = Reply - same thing.
WLS
Jul 25, 2012, 12:11:39 PM7/25/12
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Meanwhile, when you have the time, here is the bug report.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718342
and here is the m.d.a.thunderbird discussion.
http://tinyurl.com/bvxeeha
I won't post the links to the GNKSA. Anyone interested can follow those
from the discussion.
There is also a mention of RFC 1036, which I will peruse at my leisure,
which I see is made obsolete by RFC 5536 and 5537, and not mentioned in
the discussion.
Maybe you would like to "Followup" to that newsgroup post, and point
that out?
Mike Easter
Jul 25, 2012, 12:13:54 PM7/25/12
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David E. Ross wrote:
> Mike Easter
instead to a change in my Tb display since I wrote that message.
I wrote that message in linux Tb 14 which message pane showed:
Followup (containing 3 items) Forward Archive
The 3 items being followup = reply to newsgroup, reply = email to
author, and reply all = to newsgroup as well as author.
In the meantime, my linux Tb was updated to Tb15 which message pane
shows 4 items now:
Reply Followup (3 item menu) Forward Archive
The reply now results in an email to the message author, which is bad.
Followup contains followup = reply to newsgroup and the other 2 as
described above.
I also looked at XP Tb 13 which has different buttons:
Reply (2 item menu) Forward Archive
... which Reply in Tb13 means reply to newsgroup and reply all = reply
to author and group and there is no reply to author only in the default.
The developers are doing their best to invite errant behavior in the
newsreader who is not watching out for the changes in the button
meanings with each so-called version change of Tb.
--
Mike Easter
> Mike Easter
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>>
>>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
>> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>>
>> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
>> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
>> From/Reply-To
>> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
> Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
> this more confusing?
I'm not responding to the followup header setting you remark, but
>>>> Janet Wider wrote:
>>
>>>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>>> I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> The followup button in the message pane gives you access to 3 different
>> types of 'replies' to a news message, 2 of which I never use.
>>
>> Followup replies to the newsgroup.
>> Reply all replies to the newsgroup /and/ the email address of the
>> From/Reply-To
>> Reply replies /only/ to the email address of the From/Reply-To
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
> Thus, "Followup" does NOT set the Followup-to header. Could anyone make
> this more confusing?
instead to a change in my Tb display since I wrote that message.
I wrote that message in linux Tb 14 which message pane showed:
Followup (containing 3 items) Forward Archive
The 3 items being followup = reply to newsgroup, reply = email to
author, and reply all = to newsgroup as well as author.
In the meantime, my linux Tb was updated to Tb15 which message pane
shows 4 items now:
Reply Followup (3 item menu) Forward Archive
The reply now results in an email to the message author, which is bad.
Followup contains followup = reply to newsgroup and the other 2 as
described above.
I also looked at XP Tb 13 which has different buttons:
Reply (2 item menu) Forward Archive
... which Reply in Tb13 means reply to newsgroup and reply all = reply
to author and group and there is no reply to author only in the default.
The developers are doing their best to invite errant behavior in the
newsreader who is not watching out for the changes in the button
meanings with each so-called version change of Tb.
--
Mike Easter
clay
Jul 25, 2012, 12:23:55 PM7/25/12
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On 07/24/2012 5:18 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>...What ARE they doing?
>
Their own thing, for their own self important reasons.
But then, it is *their* project.
We're just lucky they are generous enough to share it with us...
[\sarcasm]
>...What ARE they doing?
>
Their own thing, for their own self important reasons.
But then, it is *their* project.
We're just lucky they are generous enough to share it with us...
[\sarcasm]
clay
Jul 25, 2012, 12:27:02 PM7/25/12
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On 07/25/2012 12:22 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>...I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>
Semantics.
Some Moz dev decided it was bad grammar to Reply to a NNTP post so now
we 'follow up'.
/Cross them eyes and dot them tees/
>...I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>
Semantics.
Some Moz dev decided it was bad grammar to Reply to a NNTP post so now
we 'follow up'.
/Cross them eyes and dot them tees/
James Silverton
Jul 25, 2012, 3:05:35 PM7/25/12
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momentarily puzzled when "Reply" disappeared). The Reply (to sender) and
Reply All alternatives have their uses.
--
James Silverton ( NOT not.jim.silverton)
Chris Ilias
Jul 25, 2012, 3:11:53 PM7/25/12
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terminology. You've just been used to Thunderbird's non-standard label. :)
Please don't spread misinformation about the reasons for change in the
Thunderbird. Thanks.
--
Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator
Tarkus
Jul 25, 2012, 3:36:27 PM7/25/12
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On 7/25/2012 1:29 AM, Ron K. wrote:
> Tarkus on 7/25/2012 1:05 AM, keyboarded a reply:
>> On 7/24/2012 9:01 PM, Janet Wider wrote:
>>> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
>>> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>>>
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>> What is Smart Reply?
>
> Smart Reply is the new button replacing Reply. It is account intelligent
> and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
Thanks. Makes sense.
> Tarkus on 7/25/2012 1:05 AM, keyboarded a reply:
>> On 7/24/2012 9:01 PM, Janet Wider wrote:
>>> I was having no luck with "customize" The box showed only, "separator",
>>> "space", "smart reply" and "tag".
>>>
>>> I clicked on "restore Default" and now I have the "followup" box, which
>>> is what I was missing.
>>
>> What is Smart Reply?
>
> Smart Reply is the new button replacing Reply. It is account intelligent
> and labels itself as Reply for Mail, but Followup for news accounts.
»Q«
Jul 25, 2012, 11:49:15 PM7/25/12
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:48:52 -0700
"David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> See RFCs 5536 and 5537. Thunderbird is NOT using the terminology
> correctly.
The button which creates a followup is now labeled "followup", so
"David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> See RFCs 5536 and 5537. Thunderbird is NOT using the terminology
> correctly.
I'm having trouble seeing why you'd call that incorrect usage of
terminology. FWIW, RFC 5537 §3.4.3 has the definition of followup:
A followup is an article that contains a response to the contents of
an earlier article, its precursor.
> If it is following a design found elsewhere, such
> lemming-like implementation is still incorrect.
WRT clear labeling.
The problem here is that Thunderbird users are accustomed to its
non-compliance. Once the screaming has stopped, I expect people will
get used to clicking that button pretty quickly, though there may be
posts from confused users for a while yet.
Ron Hunter
Jul 26, 2012, 4:46:58 AM7/26/12
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Mozilla groups as the same as 'reply' prior to this change, and
resulting discussion?
The change in terminology, regardless of how it is use in other places,
IS confusing. Takes up more bytes too.
Mike Easter
Jul 26, 2012, 8:48:04 AM7/26/12
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�Q� wrote:
> "David E. Ross"
I found the newest Tb 15 usage of:
Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
... in which the prominent and leftmost Reply tries to email the
From/Reply-To to be a potential for a newsgroup posting/mailing
accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
message window buttons by moving Reply out.
--
Mike Easter
> "David E. Ross"
Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
... in which the prominent and leftmost Reply tries to email the
From/Reply-To to be a potential for a newsgroup posting/mailing
accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
message window buttons by moving Reply out.
--
Mike Easter
Jay Garcia
Jul 26, 2012, 10:00:08 AM7/26/12
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On 26.07.2012 03:46, Ron Hunter wrote:
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--- Original Message ---
list on the left, there is a choice "Followup-To:"
Since this discussion is turning argumentative and not instructional ....
Setting the FOLLOWUP to .general
clay
Jul 26, 2012, 11:36:07 AM7/26/12
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On 07/25/2012 12:11 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 12-07-25 12:27 PM, clay wrote:
>> On 07/25/2012 12:22 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> ...I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> Semantics.
>> Some Moz dev decided it was bad grammar to Reply to a NNTP post so now
>> we 'follow up'.
>> /Cross them eyes and dot them tees/
>
> The reason for the change is that "Followup" is the standard and correct
> terminology. You've just been used to Thunderbird's non-standard label. :)
>
What I am 'used to' is Ctrl+r... at least, until the devs decide to fix
> On 12-07-25 12:27 PM, clay wrote:
>> On 07/25/2012 12:22 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> ...I really don't understand this 'followup' button.
>>
>> Semantics.
>> Some Moz dev decided it was bad grammar to Reply to a NNTP post so now
>> we 'follow up'.
>> /Cross them eyes and dot them tees/
>
> The reason for the change is that "Followup" is the standard and correct
> terminology. You've just been used to Thunderbird's non-standard label. :)
>
or replace or change that shortcut too.
...
David E. Ross
Jul 26, 2012, 4:09:17 PM7/26/12
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which is all about the Followup-to header field.
In RFC 5537, Followup is discussed in section 3.4.3. The primary issue
there is how the Followup-to header field is processed.
Chris Ilias
Jul 26, 2012, 5:04:18 PM7/26/12
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On 12-07-26 8:48 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> I found the newest Tb 15 usage of:
>
> Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
>
> .... in which the prominent and leftmost Reply tries to email the
> I found the newest Tb 15 usage of:
>
> Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
>
> From/Reply-To to be a potential for a newsgroup posting/mailing
> accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
> message window buttons by moving Reply out.
The reply button is not on the default message toolbar in the latest
> accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
> message window buttons by moving Reply out.
release in order to help users transition.
Chris Ilias
Jul 26, 2012, 5:10:43 PM7/26/12
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change that you want to know why it was made, asking in here should be
fine. But be wary of those whose answers are based on speculation. :)
»Q«
Jul 26, 2012, 6:29:47 PM7/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:04:18 -0400
Chris Ilias <nm...@ilias.ca> wrote:
> On 12-07-26 8:48 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> > I found the newest Tb 15 usage of:
> >
> > Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
> >
> > .... in which the prominent and leftmost Reply tries to email the
> > From/Reply-To to be a potential for a newsgroup posting/mailing
> > accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
> > message window buttons by moving Reply out.
>
> The reply button is not on the default message toolbar in the latest
> release in order to help users transition.
If they ever release a version with a button just labeled "reply" which
Chris Ilias <nm...@ilias.ca> wrote:
> On 12-07-26 8:48 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> > I found the newest Tb 15 usage of:
> >
> > Reply Followup (3) Forward Archive
> >
> > .... in which the prominent and leftmost Reply tries to email the
> > From/Reply-To to be a potential for a newsgroup posting/mailing
> > accident, considering Tb's past usage of Reply, so I customized the
> > message window buttons by moving Reply out.
>
> The reply button is not on the default message toolbar in the latest
> release in order to help users transition.
sends an e-mail, no transition period will stop the trouble that will
come. The problem in the first place was that "reply" is ambiguous.
bil...@gmail.com
Jul 31, 2012, 10:29:22 PM7/31/12
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On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:06:00 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
> Try placing your cursor in the message header area -- not on the
> Thunderbird menu or tool bar -- before you right-click to get the
> pull-down context menu for Customize. The icon for Reply appears to be
> the same as for Smart Reply.
Thanks. I was finally able to get rid of the Reply button. I kept hitting it instead of Followup and was unintentionally sending private replies (to mostly bogus addresses) instead of posting to the newsgroup. I don't know who decided to make this change and put the Reply button where the Followup function (if not name) was, but it is a terrible idea.
Bill
> Try placing your cursor in the message header area -- not on the
> Thunderbird menu or tool bar -- before you right-click to get the
> pull-down context menu for Customize. The icon for Reply appears to be
> the same as for Smart Reply.
Thanks. I was finally able to get rid of the Reply button. I kept hitting it instead of Followup and was unintentionally sending private replies (to mostly bogus addresses) instead of posting to the newsgroup. I don't know who decided to make this change and put the Reply button where the Followup function (if not name) was, but it is a terrible idea.
Bill
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