sent msgs-recipients missing - TB3
Miles
folder, only see in the header as sent to myself and 1 bcc, none of
the others. Did something go wrong with this one send, or is this
something that TB3 is doing differently than TB2x?
Miles
Miles
Already received a reply from one of the many recipients who was BCC'd
and in their reply could see that all were "to" not "bcc". Checked
the sent msg folder and it showed only 1 sent as bcc and no to except
myself. Could this be a bug in TB3 or something up with my ISP, or ??
Miles
Tarkus
That's how BCC works. It appears to send separate message to different
recipients, without them knowing it's a copy. Hence, there is a To:
header on their end, not a BCC: header. If you subscribe to any mailing
lists, you'll see what I mean. They don't send everyone a separate message.
As for your Sent folder, I have no idea. I've never checked for (B)CC'd
messages, so I don't know how it's suppose to work.
Ken Whiton
*-* In Article <J7WdnaKc4cXTCdzW...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Miles wrote
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> * Miles wrote, On 1/3/2010 22:46:
>> Sent my 1st msg to myself with several recipients as BCC. In the
>> sent folder, only see in the header as sent to myself and 1 bcc,
>> none of the others. Did something go wrong with this one send, or
>> is this something that TB3 is doing differently than TB2x?
>
> Already received a reply from one of the many recipients who was
> BCC'd and in their reply could see that all were "to" not "bcc".
> Checked the sent msg folder and it showed only 1 sent as bcc and no
> to except myself. Could this be a bug in TB3 or something up with my
> ISP, or ??
In your Sent folder copy, what does View --> Source (or <Ctrl-V>
show for the contents of the To and Bcc fields?
Ken Whiton
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> In your Sent folder copy, what does View --> Source (or <Ctrl-V> show
> for the contents of the To and Bcc fields?
I believe you meant <Ctrl-U> ... ;-)
In my Tb2, the source of the sent message does not show any of the BCCs.
--
-bts
-hoping to keep the OP unconfused...
Charlie
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> Ken Whiton wrote:
> > In your Sent folder copy, what does View --> Source (or <Ctrl-V> show
> > for the contents of the To and Bcc fields?
>
> I believe you meant <Ctrl-U> ... ;-)
>
> In my Tb2, the source of the sent message does not show any of the BCCs.
>
I do see all of some dozen BCCs in the source view of my test sent
message, but they are (unexpectedly to me) listed near the very top of
the window, just below "X-Mozilla-Keys: ". I always first look for
the BCC header somewhere near or below TO or FROM. I am now using TB3
on WinXP3, but my recollection is that TB2/XP3 did the same thing in
source view of sent messages.
Also, the OP said he sees *one* BCC. Question: Is there the word
"more" in bold on that line? If so, clicking it should reveal more
BCC addresses. Also, try using View-->Headers-->All, and watch for a
scroll bar in the header panel (scroll bar can appear in either ALL or
NORMAL header view).
HTH,
Charlie
Miles
No "more" wasn't there.
When time I'll try a test with several bcc's today. I suspect this
was a one-time difficulty (hopefully) as I had a devil of time
managing to send the msg -- tried several times and the bcc's appeared
garbled -- a piece in one row and a piece in another -- and 2 in some
rows. (Used send later and edit msg as new.)
Miles
Miles
Sent another test msg -- the same msg and used "forward" and it's to
myself with about 10 bcc's. File/send later, then open it in the
unsent msgs folder and edit as new. There I deleted most of the
standard bcc's included in this list, leaving only 10. Then sent the msg.
The copy in the sent box only shows from me and to me, and only 1 bcc
instead of 10. the bcc name is there followed by the gold star, then
a comma. "more" is not seen. It's the same whether the header is
viewed as all or normal.
The copy that remains in the unsent msgs folder shows from/to me and
only 2 bcc's both of which were removed prior to sending. And again
"more" is not seen.
Miles
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Ken Whiton wrote:
>>> In your Sent folder copy, what does View --> Source (or <Ctrl-V>
>>> show for the contents of the To and Bcc fields?
>>
>> I believe you meant <Ctrl-U> ... � ;-)
>>
>> In my Tb2, the source of the sent message does not show any of the
>> BCCs.
>
> I do see all of some dozen BCCs in the source view of my test sent
> message, but they are (unexpectedly to me) listed near the very top
> of the window, just below "X-Mozilla-Keys: ".
Oops, you are right! I did not look "up there."
> I always first look for the BCC header somewhere near or below TO or
> FROM.
..which is just what I did. Maybe the developers hide them "up there" so
we don't get the idea they are visible to others. <shrug>
--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
Miles
You guys are right, the addresses are seen with cntrl/u, but not
directly in the msg in the sent msg folder -- that's the dumbest setup
I've seen yet! Now there are about 4 reasons to revert to 2.x (when
3.0 is up to 3.2 perhaps I'll try it again!! - if they show that these
4 items have been corrected that is.)
Miles
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> You guys are right, the addresses are seen with cntrl/u, but not
> directly in the msg in the sent msg folder -- that's the dumbest
> setup I've seen yet! Now there are about 4 reasons to revert to 2.x
> ...
I'm using 2, so may not apply to 3, but have you clicked the little plus
sign icon in the body pane's title bar? Next to "Subject:"
It expands some of the headers and the BCCs are shown there - so you
don't have to read source to see them. I always have that title bar
expanded. Note it changes to a minus sign, when expanded.
Tarkus
> You guys are right, the addresses are seen with cntrl/u, but not
> directly in the msg in the sent msg folder -- that's the dumbest setup
> I've seen yet! Now there are about 4 reasons to revert to 2.x (when
> 3.0 is up to 3.2 perhaps I'll try it again!! - if they show that these 4
> items have been corrected that is.)
Are you really that paranoid that you check BCCs in Sent mail on a
regular basis?
Miles
> Miles wrote:
>
>> You guys are right, the addresses are seen with cntrl/u, but not
>> directly in the msg in the sent msg folder -- that's the dumbest
>> setup I've seen yet! Now there are about 4 reasons to revert to 2.x
>> ...
>
> I'm using 2, so may not apply to 3, but have you clicked the little plus
> sign icon in the body pane's title bar? Next to "Subject:"
>
> It expands some of the headers and the BCCs are shown there - so you
> don't have to read source to see them. I always have that title bar
> expanded. Note it changes to a minus sign, when expanded.
>
to subject or anywhere else. Sorry to say I didn't install 3
alongside 2, so can't view what you are seeing.
Miles
Got rid of 1 of the 4 problems by having double click open a msg in a
new window instead of a tab -- don't have use for tabs in TB since it
requires cntrl/u to close down each tab -- am accustomed to opening in
a full screen window and then can merely click on the X and that one
window closes. (believe in 2x merely had to hit the delete key, but
could be wrong.)
Miles
Why is that "more" is seen in some msgs, but not in others? Wonder if
there's a configuration entry that could fix this so it would always
show "more" or simply display all of the addresses.
Miles
FYI, frequently msgs are sent to as many as 30 business customers and
on occasion 1 or 2 will complain that they didn't receive the msg.
It's quick and easy to look at the "kept in suspense" msg and advise
that it should have been received since they were on the distribution
and recommend they ask other employees what happened.
Also on occasion need to add/subtract from the list particular list
and need to ensure the change is accomplished with the next send --
can't trust TB's address book to do anything right!
Miles
The same is seen in TB 2.x. "More" is not seen for the bcc's when a
"kept" or "sent" msg is opened. However, if double click on the msg
and open full screen then "more" is seen and if click on that all
bcc's are seen. Guess I can get used to that.