How do I disable thread summaries?
Nelson Bolyard
instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
(one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
but I've lost all my records of that.
Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
/Nelson
Wayne Mery
mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
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Nelson Bolyard
> On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>
>> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>
>> /Nelson
>
> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>
Ya know, I have amassed a whole collection of these special no-UI prefs, and
every time I move to a new computer, I find myself trying to remember
them all. Taking a copy of my prefs.js file takes along WAY too much stuff
including stuff that isn't really "preference", such as path names, printer
configuration, etc. When I move to another computer, there's stuff that's
really portable preference (the way things appear on the screen) and then
there's stuff that isn't (path names, printer config, etc.).
I wish I had a way to extract just the portable config info. I feel like I
waste so much time, and so frequently, doing this. e.g. "Let's see, what's
that pref that tells it not to put a space in front of a leading '>' in the
composer window again? I KNOW I figured that out once before ..."
Any ideas how to simplify this?
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>>
> Thanks, Wayne. I gather that's a bool pref.
Yes true/false
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JoeS
> I wish I had a way to extract just the portable config info. I feel like I
> waste so much time, and so frequently, doing this. e.g. "Let's see, what's
> that pref that tells it not to put a space in front of a leading '>' in the
> composer window again? I KNOW I figured that out once before ..."
and copy that to your new profile when you change machines.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file
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Tarkus
> On 2010-04-22 12:15 PST, Wayne Mery wrote:
>> > On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>>> >> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>>> >> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>>> >> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>>> >> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>>> >> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>> >>
>>> >> /Nelson
>> >
>> > mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>> >
> Thanks, Wayne. I gather that's a bool pref.
>
> Ya know, I have amassed a whole collection of these special no-UI prefs, and
> every time I move to a new computer, I find myself trying to remember
> them all.
What I'd like to know is why this just recently started happening to me
(perhaps since 3.0.4?), when I've never seen it before. And in the same
folder, some threads display normally, while others show the summary,
with no apparent way of actually viewing the messages (without turning
threading off). Hopefully, changing that pref will fix it.
Dave Warren
<NOnels...@NObolyardSPAM.me> was claimed to have wrote:
>Thanks, Wayne. I gather that's a bool pref.
>
>Ya know, I have amassed a whole collection of these special no-UI prefs, and
>every time I move to a new computer, I find myself trying to remember
>them all. Taking a copy of my prefs.js file takes along WAY too much stuff
>including stuff that isn't really "preference", such as path names, printer
>configuration, etc. When I move to another computer, there's stuff that's
>really portable preference (the way things appear on the screen) and then
>there's stuff that isn't (path names, printer config, etc.).
>
>I wish I had a way to extract just the portable config info. I feel like I
>waste so much time, and so frequently, doing this. e.g. "Let's see, what's
>that pref that tells it not to put a space in front of a leading '>' in the
>composer window again? I KNOW I figured that out once before ..."
>
>Any ideas how to simplify this?
Personally, I built my own user.js and I take it (and it alone) with me
to a new machine.
My user.js only contains exactly the lines I need, and for the most part
is items that aren't in the GUI.
Wayne Mery
I'm also be interested in such a thing that doesn't involve me manually
copying settings to user.js or anywhere else. But more for reasons of
testing than for migration. I didn't find a bug filed that covers this
exactly - but I also wouldn't expect it to be easy to find. The closest
that I find is
* Bug 134676 - new profiles should have a user.js file that explains how
to use it
* Bug 241430 - seporate config and other files :: profile preference
folder has mixed personal, and configuration data
* Bug 345034 - [RFE] Centralized preferences/profile storage/sharing
across network [related commentary]
goodwin
> On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>
>> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>
>> /Nelson
>
> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>
out of sheer curiousity, and since I hadn't a clue to what was being
referred to by "message summary", and since I could not find any
documentation on that preference, I went and installed it, set to true.
I can't see /anything/ different, not to mention a summary - can someone
point me to any docs on this preference?
Wayne Mery
> On 04/22/2010 12:15 PM Wayne Mery scribbled:
>
>> On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>>> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>>> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>>> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>>> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>>> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>>
>>> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>>
>>> /Nelson
>>
>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>>
> out of sheer curiousity, and since I hadn't a clue to what was being
> referred to by "message summary", and since I could not find any
> documentation on that preference, I went and installed it, set to true.
the default is true, so setting it true doesn't change the behavior :)
> I can't see /anything/ different, not to mention a summary - can someone
> point me to any docs on this preference?
I don't know of any docs, which isn't unusual for hidden prefs
Wayne Mery
the reference I was looking for, slightly incomplete with respect to
describing this, is here
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes#Message_Viewer
goodwin
> On 4/23/2010 11:01 AM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>> On 4/23/2010 10:18 AM, goodwin wrote:
>>> On 04/22/2010 12:15 PM Wayne Mery scribbled:
>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>>>>> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>>>>> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>>>>> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>>>>> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>>>>> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Nelson
>>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>>>>
>>> out of sheer curiousity, and since I hadn't a clue to what was being
>>> referred to by "message summary", and since I could not find any
>>> documentation on that preference, I went and installed it, set to true.
>> the default is true, so setting it true doesn't change the behavior :)
since I didn't have that preference, I would have no way of knowing that
>>
>>
>>> I can't see /anything/ different, not to mention a summary - can someone
>>> point me to any docs on this preference?
>> I don't know of any docs, which isn't unusual for hidden prefs
you call it a hidden preference - where do they hide??
>
> the reference I was looking for, slightly incomplete with respect to
> describing this, is here
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes#Message_Viewer
>
crap, is this a 3.0 thingy? If so, cancel question. But I'd like a
definition of hidden pref nonetheless, if you would.
That link you supplied doesn't show much - if I am understanding what
I'm reading, the reader is referred to a bug report, with said bug still
being open.
This lead to a screenshot at
https://bug454829.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=375734 which at
least gives me an idea of what is being referred to here, if that in
fact is what is being referred to.
that screenshot is pretty ugly, and even contains a spam (marked work?)
- little humor there?
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> crap, is this a 3.0 thingy? If so, cancel question. But I'd like a
> definition of hidden pref nonetheless, if you would.
Yes a 3.x thing. "hidden pref" simply means it is not in the UI but
rather in the about:config (FF) or config editor (TB).
Nelson B
> crap, is this a 3.0 thingy?
Yes, it is a new 3.0 feature.
> If so, cancel question. But I'd like a
> definition of hidden pref nonetheless, if you would.
A hidden pref is a user settable preference that can ONLY be seen or set
by going into the "config editor" window, also known as the "about:config"
page. In Firefox, you get to this by typing "about:config' in the address
bar. In Thunderbird, you go into the preferences panel, select the
"advanced" tab and the "general" sub-tab (at least, that's on Mac), then
click the "config editor" button. Either of these methods brings up a
window with (nearly) every preference that can be set in it. Some (most?)
prefs in there can be set by other means, e.g. in other preference panels,
or other menus, but some prefs in there cannot be set any other way than by
going into this window and editing them there. That latter group is
the set of "hidden" prefs.
> This lead to a screenshot at
> https://bug454829.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=375734 which at
> least gives me an idea of what is being referred to here, if that in
> fact is what is being referred to.
It's not exactly the same, but it's very close. That is demonstrating the
feature that when you select a bunch of messages at the same time, you see
a summary of the selected messages. I kinda like that.
My issue is that when you've selected a single line that happens to be
the one line that represents a collapsed thread, it doesn't treat that
line as being the line for the single message at the beginning of the
thread, but rather treats it as representing the entire collapsed thread,
and so shows you a summary (like the one shown) of that collapsed thread.
The pref lets you disable that one aspect of summaries. Just what I want.
Tarkus
It's even worse if you choose to display only unread messages. There
may be only one new message displayed in the subject pane, but instead
of showing you that message, it shows you the thread summary instead. A
horrible feature, IMO. The default should be the other way.
EE
Make a user.js file with only those special prefs in it. Tbird or
Seamonkey will use it to restore those prefs whenever needed, when the
application is shutting down. That file goes into the same place with
prefs.js.
goodwin
<snip>
>
> My issue is that when you've selected a single line that happens to be
> the one line that represents a collapsed thread, it doesn't treat that
> line as being the line for the single message at the beginning of the
> thread, but rather treats it as representing the entire collapsed thread,
> and so shows you a summary (like the one shown) of that collapsed thread.
> The pref lets you disable that one aspect of summaries. Just what I want.
>
aah, I see - could be a drag when a post gets long winded/over several
days...
note to you and Jay - I'm more than familiar with the config editor -
just never heard it called hidden - its never been hidden to me.
note 2: could have sworn I saw another post in this thread being done
from TB2.? so I thought I was missing something - sorry...
now that I see it, have to agree with Tarkus - but then, my life is
really pretty simple - so simple, I'm installing FreeBSD to keep awake.
V S Rawat
> On 4/22/2010 3:10 PM, Nelson Bolyard wrote:
>> With TB3, when I click on the first message in a mail thread,
>> instead of showing me that message, it shows me a summary of the
>> messages in that thread. Someone once showed me a hidden preference
>> (one for which there is no UI) by which that feature can be disabled,
>> but I've lost all my records of that.
>>
>> Can someone here remind me of how to do that?
>>
>> /Nelson
>
> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads
>
thanks for it.
I was also not finding much use for thread summaries, and it was
taking a noticeable small time while it worked thusly, so I also
wanted to disable it. thanks for providing the solution.
rawat