Searching within Filter Rules
Herb
I keep wondering whether it is possible to search within the Filter
Rules window?
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Herb
> I have a feeling I may have asked this or a similar question before, but
> I keep wondering whether it is possible to search within the Filter
> Rules window?
>
Do I have to conclude from the lack of response that the answer is "No",
or was my question not clear enough?
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Herbert Eppel
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goodwin
> On 18.08.2010 23:25 UK Time, Herb wrote:
>> I have a feeling I may have asked this or a similar question before, but
>> I keep wondering whether it is possible to search within the Filter
>> Rules window?
>>
>
> Do I have to conclude from the lack of response that the answer is "No",
> or was my question not clear enough?
>
I'd say
no
and your question isn't clear enough...
there is a .dat file (messageFilterRules.dat) that contains that info in
plain english, aka text, which makes it searchable.
If your filters are that numerous you probably need to trim them - or
change your email address...
Timo Pietilä
> with a ~100 KB file of filter rules. And yes to the OP, just open the
> file up with a text editor. The syntax isn't plain English, but it's
> understandable enough. Just make sure whatever you use to read the
> file doesn't write the data back in a corrupted format (which includes
> not line-wrapping it!)
If using windows I recommend notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/)
That one even understand difference between unix-style EOL and Windows
EOL (CRLF or just LF). Unless you decide to ruin the textfile yourself,
that one won't do it for you.
Timo Pietilä
Herb
Thanks for all the replies.
I don't think it is unreasonable to expect Thunderbird to offer a filter
rule search function. I have a couple of filters a large number of
entries, and scrolling through them manually to spot/modify entries is a
little tedious.
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John H Meyers
> I don't think it is unreasonable to expect Thunderbird
> to offer a filter rule search function.
> I have a couple of filters [with] a large number of entries,
> and scrolling through them manually to spot/modify entries
> is a little tedious.
It must be reasonable enough,
given that Classic Eudora's standard "Find Text" function,
when its "Filters" window has focus,
jumps to the next filter rule which contains matching text.
People once either paid for Eudora or used it for the "price"
of viewing small ads which Qualcomm sold, or even used it
free without ads ("light" mode), with fewer features,
yet filtering (and text search within filter rules)
was still available, less a few of its most esoteric abilities.
I just had an impulse to view the "Credits" in
"About Thunderbird" for 3.0.6, and lo --
at least two of Qualcomm's developers of "classic" Eudora
(Jeff Beckley, original co-author of Eudora for Windows,
and Geoffrey Wenger, longtime Eudora developer),
who are still at work on "Eudora OSE"
(all of Thunderbird, plus Eudora extras)
are listed in those credits,
so perhaps you should request the enhancement
while they are still part of TB's team :)
By the way,
"Eudora OSE" has its own "product" section in TB's Bugzilla,
so various assorted bugs and enhancement requests,
particularly those requested by former Eudora users,
end up in Eudora's branch -- I don't know how
they sort them all out, but the overall efforts
seem to be commingled to some degree,
and TB seems to be getting some extras
that are due to Qualcomm's Eudora team becoming part of it:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope#Team_Members
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Herb
Thanks for confirming that my request isn't unreasonable.
Can someone remind me about the RFE procedure? Is it still via Bugzilla?
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Chris Ilias
> Can someone remind me about the RFE procedure? Is it still via Bugzilla?
Yup. It may be already filed. Is this what you're looking for:
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450302>.
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Herb
> On 10-09-02 12:25 PM, Herb wrote:
>
>> Can someone remind me about the RFE procedure? Is it still via Bugzilla?
>
> Yup. It may be already filed. Is this what you're looking for:
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450302>.
>
Yes, thanks, I just voted for it - anyone else?
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Herb
Thanks for the Notepad++ recommendation - it works well.
Still, it would be nice of the filter rules were searchable from within TB.
The name of the filter rules file is msgFilterRules.dat, by the way (not
messageFilterRules.dat).
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
Herb
> On 02.09.2010 23:35 UK Time, Chris Ilias wrote:
>> On 10-09-02 12:25 PM, Herb wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone remind me about the RFE procedure? Is it still via Bugzilla?
>>
>> Yup. It may be already filed. Is this what you're looking for:
>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450302>.
>>
>
> Yes, thanks, I just voted for it - anyone else?
>
functionality - see
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filter-of-filters/>.
Thanks to Wayne Mery for pointing this out in the Bugzilla thread Chris
posted back in 2010 :-)
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Herbert Eppel
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Herb@UK
name, not within filters.
Thunderbird now seems to have a "Search filters by name" box as
standard. Presumably this is a recent development? It appears to make
the "Filter Of Filters" add-on redundant.
Is anyone aware of an add-on that enables searches within filters?
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Herbert Eppel
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Herb@UK
Herb@UK
B00ze
[snip]
>>> Actually, the "Filter Of Filters" add-on only enables searches by filter
>>> name, not within filters.
>>>
>>> Thunderbird now seems to have a "Search filters by name" box as
>>> standard. Presumably this is a recent development? It appears to make
>>> the "Filter Of Filters" add-on redundant.
>>>
>>> Is anyone aware of an add-on that enables searches within filters?
>>>
>>
>> Looks like the answer is "no". Pity :-(
>>
>
> Any news on this?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/quickfilters
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Herb@UK
> On 2016-11-14 22:34, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> Actually, the "Filter Of Filters" add-on only enables searches by
>>>> filter
>>>> name, not within filters.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird now seems to have a "Search filters by name" box as
>>>> standard. Presumably this is a recent development? It appears to make
>>>> the "Filter Of Filters" add-on redundant.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone aware of an add-on that enables searches within filters?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like the answer is "no". Pity :-(
>>>
>>
>> Any news on this?
>
> quickFilters allows searching filters, conditions, actions, folder names...
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/quickfilters
I have quickFilters installed, but as far as I am aware it doesn't offer
search capabilities *within* filter rules, if you see what I mean.
As a workaround I can search & edit msgFilterRules.dat in an advanced
text editor (as suggested previously in this thread), but direct search
capability would be preferable.
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslations.uk
B00ze
> On 16.11.2016 01:02, B00ze wrote:
>> On 2016-11-14 22:34, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>>> Actually, the "Filter Of Filters" add-on only enables searches by
>>>>> filter name, not within filters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird now seems to have a "Search filters by name" box as
>>>>> standard. Presumably this is a recent development? It appears to make
>>>>> the "Filter Of Filters" add-on redundant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone aware of an add-on that enables searches within filters?
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the answer is "no". Pity :-(
>>>
>>> Any news on this?
>>
>> quickFilters allows searching filters, conditions, actions, folder
>> names...
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/quickfilters
>
> Thanks, but haven't we been there before?
my Thunderbird, I didn't see that I'd suggested that addOn before and
totally forgot...
> I have quickFilters installed, but as far as I am aware it doesn't offer
> search capabilities *within* filter rules, if you see what I mean.
searchbox and select "search condition" and then you can search for the
text of your rules - for example, if you have a rule that says
From=ServiceNow@whatever and you search for "Service" you will find it.
Is that not what you need?
> As a workaround I can search & edit msgFilterRules.dat in an advanced
> text editor (as suggested previously in this thread), but direct search
> capability would be preferable.
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