Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows installations) with 2.0.
In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can think of, to no avail.
I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an > issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it > to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is > much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as > junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This > holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows > installations) with 2.0.
> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could > manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it > would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently > 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my > junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk > logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can > think of, to no avail.
> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have > been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
if you're using the same training.dat file since day one, then perhaps you need to reset the junk filters and start over.
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> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an > issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it > to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is > much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as > junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This > holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows > installations) with 2.0.
> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could > manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it > would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently > 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my > junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk > logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can > think of, to no avail.
> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have > been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
After upgrading to version TB2, I had to activate the deletion option for unwanted mail in the TB-options.
It works great now, also for "normal" mail that I give an unwanted mark.
> Nerve...@gmail.com schreef: >> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an >> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it >> to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is >> much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as >> junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This >> holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows >> installations) with 2.0.
>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could >> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it >> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently >> 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my >> junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk >> logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can >> think of, to no avail.
>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have >> been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
> After upgrading to version TB2, I had to activate the deletion option > for unwanted mail in the TB-options.
> On 8/29/2007 9:05 AM, Snarf wrote: >> Nerve...@gmail.com schreef: >>> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an >>> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it >>> to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is >>> much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as >>> junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This >>> holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows >>> installations) with 2.0.
>>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could >>> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it >>> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently >>> 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my >>> junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk >>> logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can >>> think of, to no avail.
>>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have >>> been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>> After upgrading to version TB2, I had to activate the deletion option >> for unwanted mail in the TB-options.
> exactly which option on which panel?
I've installed the Dutch version so I don't know if the "translated" words are exactly the same as in English version.
- menu bar => Extra - in the pull down menu => Options ( or press: Alt +O ) - click on the tab=> Privacy - click on the sub-tab => General - choose the desired functions and clik on => OK
It's in the same panel as where you can find the "reset training" button.
Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an > issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it > to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is > much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as > junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This > holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows > installations) with 2.0.
> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could > manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it > would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently > 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my > junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk > logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can > think of, to no avail.
> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have > been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but, can't you go into the Tools, Account Settings and then Junk Settings and tell it to automatically delete Junk mail in x number of days? You will have to do this for each account but you only need to do it once.
> Wayne Mery schreef: >> On 8/29/2007 9:05 AM, Snarf wrote: >>> Nerve...@gmail.com schreef: >>>> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an >>>> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it >>>> to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is >>>> much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as >>>> junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This >>>> holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows >>>> installations) with 2.0.
>>>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could >>>> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it >>>> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently >>>> 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my >>>> junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk >>>> logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can >>>> think of, to no avail.
>>>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have >>>> been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>>> After upgrading to version TB2, I had to activate the deletion option >>> for unwanted mail in the TB-options.
>> exactly which option on which panel?
> I've installed the Dutch version so I don't know if the "translated" > words are exactly the same as in English version.
> - menu bar => Extra
extra => Tools
> - in the pull down menu => Options > ( or press: Alt +O ) > - click on the tab=> Privacy > - click on the sub-tab => General > - choose the desired functions and clik on => OK
> It's in the same panel as where you can find the "reset training" button.
> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > > Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an > > issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move it > > to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the problem is > > much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete mail marked as > > junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather tiresome. This > > holds true on both of my computers (even with fresh Windows > > installations) with 2.0.
> > In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could > > manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it > > would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series (currently > > 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and disabling my > > junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling and disabling junk > > logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, and everything I can > > think of, to no avail.
> > I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to have > > been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but, can't you go into the Tools, Account > Settings and then Junk Settings and tell it to automatically delete Junk > mail in x number of days? You will have to do this for each account but > you only need to do it once.
I think that my subject was misleading - it's moving junk into the junk folder that *sometimes* doesn't happen.
Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Joe Brown <jbrown...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: >> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an >>> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move >>> it to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the >>> problem is much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete >>> mail marked as junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather >>> tiresome. This holds true on both of my computers (even with >>> fresh Windows installations) with 2.0.
>>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could >>> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it >>> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series >>> (currently 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and >>> disabling my junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling >>> and disabling junk logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, >>> and everything I can think of, to no avail.
>>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to >>> have been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be >>> appreciated.
>> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but, can't you go into the Tools, >> Account Settings and then Junk Settings and tell it to >> automatically delete Junk mail in x number of days? You will have >> to do this for each account but you only need to do it once.
> I think that my subject was misleading - it's moving junk into the > junk folder that *sometimes* doesn't happen.
Do you have retention policy activated for Junk folder ( right click on Junk folder > properties > retention policy ) ?
Pete Holsberg wrote: > Nerve...@gmail.com keyed the following on 8/29/2007 4:48 AM: >> I can certainly delete the training.dat, but isn't that taken care >> of by hitting the "reset training data" button?
> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Joe Brown <jbrown...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > >> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an > >>> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move > >>> it to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the > >>> problem is much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete > >>> mail marked as junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather > >>> tiresome. This holds true on both of my computers (even with > >>> fresh Windows installations) with 2.0.
> >>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could > >>> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it > >>> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series > >>> (currently 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and > >>> disabling my junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling > >>> and disabling junk logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, > >>> and everything I can think of, to no avail.
> >>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to > >>> have been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be > >>> appreciated.
> >> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but, can't you go into the Tools, > >> Account Settings and then Junk Settings and tell it to > >> automatically delete Junk mail in x number of days? You will have > >> to do this for each account but you only need to do it once.
> > I think that my subject was misleading - it's moving junk into the > > junk folder that *sometimes* doesn't happen.
> Do you have retention policy activated for Junk folder ( right click on > Junk folder > properties > retention policy ) ?
It's pop3. That does give me one more avenue, I have auto-compaction enabled, and that seems to indicate that it may be compacting the junk folder, and hence not able to move things. I'll turn that off and see if it helps.
Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, Nir <nir....@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Aug 29, 8:55 am, Joe Brown <jbrown...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: >>>> Nerve...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Having used Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days, I have always had an >>>>> issue where it will sometimes mark messages as junk, but not move >>>>> it to the junk folder. Having moved to the 2.0 version, the >>>>> problem is much more common. Yes, I can click on "Tools->Delete >>>>> mail marked as junk", but doing that for every folder gets rather >>>>> tiresome. This holds true on both of my computers (even with >>>>> fresh Windows installations) with 2.0. >>>>> In the pre-2.0 days, when the problem would surface, I could >>>>> manually delete all of my junk and trash, compact folders, and it >>>>> would usually fix the problem. Now, with the 2.0 series >>>>> (currently 2.0.6), that no longer helps. I've tried enabling and >>>>> disabling my junk controls, resetting my training data, enabling >>>>> and disabling junk logging, deleting the junk and junk.msf files, >>>>> and everything I can think of, to no avail. >>>>> I see that it was a known issue in 0.9, but it doesn't seem to >>>>> have been fixed since then. Any tips or suggestions would be >>>>> appreciated. >>>> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but, can't you go into the Tools, >>>> Account Settings and then Junk Settings and tell it to >>>> automatically delete Junk mail in x number of days? You will have >>>> to do this for each account but you only need to do it once. >>> I think that my subject was misleading - it's moving junk into the >>> junk folder that *sometimes* doesn't happen. >> Do you have retention policy activated for Junk folder ( right click on >> Junk folder > properties > retention policy ) ?
> It's pop3. That does give me one more avenue, I have auto-compaction > enabled, and that seems to indicate that it may be compacting the junk > folder, and hence not able to move things. I'll turn that off and see > if it helps.
In ThunderBird and SeaMonkey, go over to tools menu and look for Delete Mail Marked as Junk in folder.
You must actually be in the Junk mail folder. (don't have to have a piece of junk mail open). click on this then click on empty trash.
What actually happens is that mail in junk is moved to trash where it can be deleted.
Its setup to assume that a powerful feature as this is over the heads of 99.999% of the people. So you have to go through this two step process to kill junk permanently. So that you don't accidentally delete important junk. They assume you don't know how to drag and drop item else's where after un marking as junk. ;)
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