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Robert Kaiser  
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 More options Jul 17 2007, 11:26 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, mozilla.support.seamonkey
Followup-To: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:26:29 +0200
Local: Tues, Jul 17 2007 11:26 am
Subject: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
Hi all,

The next secruity update of Mozilla-based applications was moved to be
released a bit early due to the "firefoxurl:" security problem in
Firefox that has been discussed widely across the media.
See http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0.0.5 for the current schedule.

In sync with that, SeaMonkey 1.1.3 is planned to be released as well,
picking up a number of security and stability fixes despite SeaMonkey is
not vulnerable to the problem cited above (due to not having picked up
the vulnerable code at all, which was developed for better Vista support).

Because of the release currently being scheduled for this week (!), we
need urgent testing of our candidate builds, which are available at
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/candidates-1...

I've been informed that the whole schedule might slip due to maybe
taking another important security fix, but as long as that is not
decided, the current schedule stands.

Please help us testing those builds so we can get out a good SeaMonkey
1.1.3 release!

If you can do some smoketesting, please go to
<http://litmus.mozilla.org/> and do a SeaMonkey 1.1 test run
(<http://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=11>). For further
questions, stop by on IRC in #seamonkey, ajschult is our QA leader who
should know about what can/should/need to be tested.

Thanks for your help,

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member


 
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NoOp  
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 More options Jul 17 2007, 12:38 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:38:53 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 17 2007 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/17/2007 08:26 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ah, you mean these?
http://secunia.com/product/4227/?task=advisories_2007

I'll load up 1.1.3 today.

Just to confirm: SM on linux (Ubuntu in my case) should no longer be
installed using 'su -c ./seamonkey' and should instead be installed
without root privileges per
<http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/ins...>
?


 
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Robert Kaiser  
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 More options Jul 17 2007, 2:45 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:45:37 +0200
Local: Tues, Jul 17 2007 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!

NoOp wrote:
> Ah, you mean these?
> http://secunia.com/product/4227/?task=advisories_2007

You need to ask security folks about Secunia. I can't tell you anything
about it.

> Just to confirm: SM on linux (Ubuntu in my case) should no longer be
> installed using 'su -c ./seamonkey' and should instead be installed
> without root privileges per
> <http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/ins...>
> ?

'su -c ./seamonkey' would never have _installed_ SeaMonkey but instead
_run_ it. You don't need to run SeaMonkey as root and you shouldn't.
su might actually be OK, but never try this with sudo or your normal
user profile will not run flawlessly as a normal user any more.
Installing it as root is OK, running as root is discouraged, running
through sudo harmful.

Robert Kaiser


 
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NoOp  
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 More options Jul 17 2007, 3:09 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:09:04 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 17 2007 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/17/2007 11:45 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Yep, sorry I meant: su -c ./seamonkey-installer which I normally do
anyway (I fully agree about not using the 'sudo' command). It's just
that Manuel Reimer had mentioned in the PrefBar 3.4.1:

>> NoOp wrote:
>> >> My SeaMonkey install is indeed installed using root permission ($ su -c
>> >> ../seamonkey-installer) per the recommendations of the developer group
>> >> sometime back. No global install. Would this make the difference?
>> Manuel Reimer wrote:
>> Yes. Don't do that. The bug with "root privileges required" has been
>> fixed some some versions ago. You should just install with the user,
>> which will use PrefBar and then install to your profile and not global.

>> All this problems will be gone immediately with SeaMonkey 2.x

In any event, that is what is required (su -c ./seamonkey-installer) as
if not:
"Choose another directory because you do not have permission to install
to: /usr/local/seamonkey".
And I'm happy to report that 1.1.3 is up and running just fine now on my
backup machine & 2 test machines (Ubuntu 7.04 linux 2.6.20-16-386). I'll
run those for awhile before installing on this one.

Gary


 
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Robert Kaiser  
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 6:57 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, mozilla.support.seamonkey
Followup-To: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:57:59 +0200
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 6:57 am
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!

> The next secruity update of Mozilla-based applications was moved to be
> released a bit early due to the "firefoxurl:" security problem in
> Firefox that has been discussed widely across the media.
> See http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0.0.5 for the current schedule.

Firefox has broken their own schedule and already published the release.
They rushed this out so fast that not even the security team has publish
_which_ vulnerabilities the release has solved.

We'll try to get out the SeaMonkey release as soon as A can clear it, as
we're now in the position that a Firefox release is out that fixes some
security flaws to which the latest SeaMonkey is still vulnerable.

> I've been informed that the whole schedule might slip due to maybe
> taking another important security fix, but as long as that is not
> decided, the current schedule stands.

Obviously, both hasn't happened. No additional fix, but our MoCo friend
released even before scheduled date.

Let's try to get out 1.1.3 ASAP.

Robert Kaiser


 
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Robert Kaiser  
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 7:04 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:04:26 +0200
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 7:04 am
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!

NoOp wrote:
> Yep, sorry I meant: su -c ./seamonkey-installer which I normally do
> anyway (I fully agree about not using the 'sudo' command).

That should be the right way to do it (if you want a global,
not-user-writable install).

> It's just
> that Manuel Reimer had mentioned in the PrefBar 3.4.1:
> [...]

I think that's mostly about installing PrefBar, not about installing
SeaMonkey per se.

> In any event, that is what is required (su -c ./seamonkey-installer) as
> if not:
> "Choose another directory because you do not have permission to install
> to: /usr/local/seamonkey".

if you want to install to /usr/local that's clear, as only root has
write permissions there.

Robert Kaiser


 
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NoOp  
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 3:26 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:26:28 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/18/2007 04:04 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

>> In any event, that is what is required (su -c ./seamonkey-installer) as
>> if not:
>> "Choose another directory because you do not have permission to install
>> to: /usr/local/seamonkey".

> if you want to install to /usr/local that's clear, as only root has
> write permissions there.

> Robert Kaiser

The install script defaults to /usr/local/seamonkey. Is there another
location where it should be installed?

 
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Robert Kaiser  
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 8:21 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:21:02 +0200
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!

NoOp wrote:
> On 07/18/2007 04:04 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

>>> In any event, that is what is required (su -c ./seamonkey-installer) as
>>> if not:
>>> "Choose another directory because you do not have permission to install
>>> to: /usr/local/seamonkey".
>> if you want to install to /usr/local that's clear, as only root has
>> write permissions there.

>> Robert Kaiser

> The install script defaults to /usr/local/seamonkey. Is there another
> location where it should be installed?

That default is correct, but you _can_ install anywhere you like, even
in your home directory.

Robert Kaiser


 
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 10:39 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:39:52 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/18/2007 05:21 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Yep... I should have realised that when it gave me the option to name a
location... :-)

Anyway, zero problems to report so far on the test machines, so I've
also installed on this machine. Install was flawless and so far no
complaints.  Given that FF released, are you still looking for
smoketests or just 'use & report'?


 
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 11:22 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: Andrew Schultz <ajsch...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:22:42 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!

NoOp wrote:
> Anyway, zero problems to report so far on the test machines, so I've
> also installed on this machine. Install was flawless and so far no
> complaints.  Given that FF released, are you still looking for
> smoketests or just 'use & report'?

Both.  :)  And of course, file bugs for any problems you encounter.

We've had some smoketesting already for windows and I'll run the tests
on linux.  We still need Mac smoketesting.  Of course, you're welcome to
run the tests on windows and linux.

Real world use testing is helpful too and can catch bugs that only show
up in non-default configurations or just make use of features not part
of the basic tests we have.

--
Andrew Schultz
ajsch...@verizon.net
http://www.sens.buffalo.edu/~ajs42/


 
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 More options Jul 18 2007, 11:39 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:39:31 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 18 2007 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/18/2007 08:22 PM, Andrew Schultz wrote:

Good enough... I'll run smoketests on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) linux tomorrow.

Gary


 
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 More options Jul 19 2007, 7:26 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:26:30 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.3 upcoming - please test candidates!
On 07/18/2007 08:39 PM, NoOp wrote:

Smoketests completed - no problems. Only one that I didn't run is IMAP.

Suggestion for the smoketests; provide a section so that the user can
tell/show what OS version they are using. For instance, it only shows
'Linux', but there are hundreds of flavors of linux and I think it would
be helpful to know what distros & kernel versions the test was performed
with. Probably the same for Windows & MAC.


 
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