Article for Firefox's open media player
Chris Ilias
keyboard shortcuts for Firefox's internal media player for ogg files.
When asked to update the keyboard shortcuts page, it got me thinking
about creating an article dedicated to open video player.
Not only would it list shortcuts, but also explain open video, that it
is not a plugin, etc. I just want to get everyone's thoughts on the idea.
chris hofmann
yeah!
when watching streaming or posted video
[right-click] [select: save video as file]
and you have your own copy of the video saved to your hard drive.
-chofmann
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David McRitchie
My concern at the moment if mainly on the arrow keys for forward and back
Bug 486899 is marked as resolved fixed, where do we supply suggestions
my concern is backward/forward keyboard shortcuts with arrow keys.
bug 486899#c15 5 sec (fixed seconds) Jesse Ruderman
bug 486899#30 summary by Justin Dolske
bug 486899#32 25% of length by Mike Belzner.
bug 494192 add to keyboard shortcuts by Chris Ilias (no content)
My thoughts, I had seen 15 seconds somewhere which is long in my opinion
and 5 seconds seems reasonable. But I'd go for 15 seconds and 1.5 seconds
with left/right arrow key is the Ctrl+arrow were included for one or the other.
Also would expect multiple clicks to be cumulative so 3 clicks would be 4.5 secs
or 45 seconds depending on use of Ctrl key. and cancelled with Space bar which
starts and stops. Multiple clicks in opposite directions cancel each other one for one.
Fast /slow scan, slow scan in either direction with speed control and a goal of being able to pick a specific frame.
Forward/reverse based on length is not practical as an interruption or a missed moment/frame
is a matter of timing. Besides the slider will always be available in some fashion and as
far as scenes go for many videos that will be covered on thumbnails such as you see
at videosurf.com or in Google, Yahoo and YouTube with videosurf Firefox extension
VideoSurf Videos at a Glance :: Firefox Add-ons
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10218
If I do a Google search for filetype:ogg I can find some ogg (ogm) files
but it would be nice to include some examples right on any page describing same,
so things can be tested.
I presume that OGG files are not yet supported in Minefield regardless of keyboard
shortcuts as Firefox is not a choice in Tools, Options, Applications, Ogg Video.
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Cheng Wang
This is not the place to discuss behavior of /Firefox/ as this is a community to talk about the documentation pages on support.mozilla.com. Posting here will not be read by developers actually implementing keyboard shortcuts in Firefox. You may want to comment in the relevant bugs.
> If I do a Google search for filetype:ogg I can find some ogg
> (ogm) files
> but it would be nice to include some examples right on any page
> describing same,
> so things can be tested.
> I presume that OGG files are not yet supported in Minefield
> regardless of keyboard
> shortcuts as Firefox is not a choice in Tools, Options,
> Applications, Ogg Video.
>
Theora/Ogg is supported natively in Firefox. Just like you don't see it in Tools> Options > Applications > JPEG Image, you won't see FIrefox in Tools > Options > Applications > Ogg Video. They're essentially the same idea: both are implemented by the browser and not an external application. You can test your Ogg video support by going to http://air.mozilla.com which broadcasts various Mozilla events and meetings using streaming, embedded Ogg. The suggestion of embedding some open video is a good one and I'll make sure that we have a mechanism for that on the support pages before 3.5 rolls out.
David McRitchie
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"Cheng Wang" <mozillasup...@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message news:WvmdnXZWC8FI64TX...@mozilla.org...
> see Firefox in Tools > Options > Applications > Ogg Video. They're essentially the same idea: both are implemented by the
> browser and not an external application. You can test your Ogg video support by going to http://air.mozilla.com which broadcasts
> various Mozilla events and meetings using streaming, embedded Ogg. The suggestion of embedding some open video is a good one and
> I'll make sure that we have a mechanism for that on the support pages before 3.5 rolls out.
Thanks, I had looked at air.mozilla.com before on Shiretoko because 3.0.10 says must be using 3.5.
I had only tried Minefield yesterday for an Ogg file, I found, obviously the wrong one to choose from a Google search.
https://fedorahosted.org/dungeonsofmongo/browser/data/music/Elfman%2001.ogg?rev=16fa67f2baf8c17ff11348cb4ce26217e9517639
But looking at air.mozilla.com I also see that the is no way to maximize the video.
Don't know if that fits in with website styling or with native Theora/Ogg support.,
I tend to think it would be support.
Vista has a nasty habit of normalizing a maximized window on another monitor when you click
on another application. To alleviate that I can use the Firefox or other zoom control
which often works but not very well on air.mozilla.com because the video is not full
width (yes I could unstyle the page but that gets away from Native support for videos).
Majken Connor
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i think we should keep it fairly simple. Rather than saying it isn't a
plugin as the main explanation, say that it's like an image that Firefox can
display. By saying what it's like we won't get bogged down in trying to
explain what a plugin is and why it's better not to have one. I also don't
think it would be appropriate to discuss what open video is either as it's
not something we get into in other articles.
What I would suggest is writing a blog post that highlights the article,
explains everything you want to say and links to other good resources that
explain (MDC maybe) what it is and why it's in Firefox.
I'm sure marketing already has materials about communicating what's new in
Firefox releases. Rather than duplicating effort in explaining about open
video as a concept I think it's a better idea to find out where this info
will be, help make sure it's digestable for SUMO's audience and then add
something on the front page to make sure people who come to sumo looking for
that information can get to it. (which should in turn point to the SUMO
article to show people how to use it).
Chris Ilias
Looks like everyone is in favour of this. I'm continuing the discussion
in the Contributors forum for further details.
<https://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=354299>