Hide the IE icon. Replace the FF icon with the IE icon.
Disable IE:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1009_11-5838360.html
There. You've got three.
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if those don't work, then threaten them with taking their
meds away, or you'll put them in a nursing home ;-) :-D
Right-click on the "Start" Menu. Click on "Explore" (I think its
Explore, I use a Swedish XP so I dont know the English word here) Then
you see all accounts on your PC. On the each account you want to hide
IE, locate the shortcuts to IE in the "Start" menu and "Desktop" folders.
Now you can remove the shortcuts to IE or you can move and rename the
shortcuts to another location in the "Start" manu and "Desktop" folders.
The 2 folders have subfolders so they can easily be moved. Just be sure
you move the shortcuts to another folder in the "Start"-menu and
"Desktop" folders.
Depending on your set-up it can be enough to remove or /move/rename the
shortcut in the "Start"-menu and "Desktop" folders for the "All Users"
account.
If you dont remove the shortcuts its an good idea to change the icon for
IE so its more difficult to identify.
What I did was to remove the IE shortcuts from all accounts except from
my own account.
Cheers
ahhh man, its was a bloody joke!
If that doesn't work, offer to help upgrade their systems to
the new IE7. One of two things will happen, if your
experience mirrors my own:
1) They'll hate it and beg you to show them Firefox, or
2) You will be much more convincing when you tell them you
can't help them with IE any more, because everything is
different now.
<snip />
> What I did was to remove the IE shortcuts from all accounts except from
> my own account.
I seem to recall removing it from C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Desktop and then just running it (when needed) by pressing WinKey, R
and entering iexplore, then pressing <Enter>.
Yeah, I'm one of those who frequently find the keyboard faster than the
mouse. . . .
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/b.
String quartets don't march very well.
--Donald Barthelme, /The Dead Father/
> Stefan wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo skrev:
>>> if those don't work, then threaten them with taking their meds away,
>>> or you'll put them in a nursing home ;-) :-D
>>>
>> Threats are not needed. Actions are better.
>
> ahhh man, its was a bloody joke!
<disclaimer>No blood, human or otherwise, was shed in the making of this
joke.</disclaimer>
Speaking of bloody, who else here has seen /Grindhouse/? (I saw it last
Friday, when it opened, which has to be the most perverse thing I've ever
done on a Good Friday. . . .)
<snip />
> If that doesn't work, offer to help upgrade their systems to the new
> IE7. One of two things will happen, if your experience mirrors my own:
> 1) They'll hate it and beg you to show them Firefox, or
> 2) You will be much more convincing when you tell them you can't help
> them with IE any more, because everything is different now.
Aaaiiiieeeee!!!!!!
:-D
Delete the IE icon? My mom (90 in Decemnber) tried both and liked the
Firefox/Thunderbird combo better than the MS equivalents.
Did you give them choices about FF (and/or TB) configuration? Did you show
them how easy it is to use? Did you explain the advantages of tabbed
browsing?
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the day they start making vacuum cleaners." --Ernst Jan Plugge
> On 2007-04-13 11:43 (-0600 UTC), Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
>> Stefan wrote:
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo skrev:
>>>> if those don't work, then threaten them with taking their meds away,
>>>> or you'll put them in a nursing home ;-) :-D
>>>>
>>> Threats are not needed. Actions are better.
>>
>> ahhh man, its was a bloody joke!
>
> <disclaimer>No blood, human or otherwise, was shed in the making of this
> joke.</disclaimer>
>
> Speaking of bloody, who else here has seen /Grindhouse/? (I saw it last
> Friday, when it opened, which has to be the most perverse thing I've ever
> done on a Good Friday. . . .)
I'm looking forward to it -- sooner or later Blockbuster will get it.
Best Easter joke:
Three blondes died and are at the pearly gates of Heaven. St. Peter tells
them that they can enter the gates if they can answer one simple question.
St. Peter asks the first blonde, "What is Easter?" The blonde replies, "Oh,
that's easy! It's the holiday in November when everyone gets together, eats
turkey, and are thankful."
"Wrong!," replies St. Peter, and proceeds to ask the second blonde the same
question, "What is Easter?" The second blonde replies, "Easter is the
holiday in December when we put up a nice tree, exchange presents, and
celebrate the birth of Jesus."
St. Peter looks at the second blonde, shakes his head in disgust, tells her
she's wrong, and then peers over his glasses at the third blonde. He asks,
"What is Easter?" The third blonde smiles confidently and looks St. Peter in
the eyes, "I know what Easter is." "Oh?" says St. Peter, incredulously.
"Easter is the Christian holiday that coincides with the Jewish celebration
of Passover. Jesus and his disciples were eating at the last supper and
Jesus was later deceived and turned over to the Romans by one of his
disciples. The Romans took him to be crucified and he was stabbed in the
side, made to wear a crown of thorns, and was hung on a cross with nails
through his hands. He was buried in a nearby cave which was sealed off by a
large boulder."
St. Peter smiles broadly with delight. The third blonde continues, "Every
year the boulder is moved aside so that Jesus can come out... and, if he
sees his shadow, there will be six more weeks of winter.
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>
>> On 2007-04-13 11:43 (-0600 UTC), Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>
>>> Stefan wrote:
>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo skrev:
>>>>> if those don't work, then threaten them with taking their meds
>>>>> away, or you'll put them in a nursing home ;-) :-D
>>>>>
>>>> Threats are not needed. Actions are better.
>>>
>>> ahhh man, its was a bloody joke!
>>
>> <disclaimer>No blood, human or otherwise, was shed in the making of
>> this joke.</disclaimer>
>>
>> Speaking of bloody, who else here has seen /Grindhouse/? (I saw it
>> last Friday, when it opened, which has to be the most perverse thing
>> I've ever done on a Good Friday. . . .)
>
> I'm looking forward to it -- sooner or later Blockbuster will get it.
It really is one of those movies that you need to see with a crowd -- the
last time I can remember an audience applauding at a film was when I saw the
preview of /Pulp Fiction/ in 1994 -- . . . but it happened -- twice -- last
Friday. . . .
Ooh. . . . -- But, really, I /do/ need to remember that. :-D
If they're using IE6 or above, open Control Panel, open Add or Remove
Programs, click on Add or Remove Windows Components, uncheck Internet
Explorer. It will be removed as it's no longer an integral part of
Explorer as it was in version 5.
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Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
reg
Marquis.
But you must remember that we're dealing with tough love here, not sadism.
If Jenna goes nuts she won't be able to offer ANY help to her aging (and
younger than I am) parents. The first rule for emergency medical persons is
to preserve their OWN lives -- they can't help anybody if they're dead. The
same goes for IT helpstaff.
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Cheers, Bev (Happy Linux User #85683, Slackware 11.0)
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"Not everyone can be above average so why
shouldn't we be the ones to suck?"
--Anonymous School Board Member
<snip />
>> hmmmmm - some people are more sadistic than even ol' Count Sade
>> himself! (or was he a Baron??)
>
> Marquis.
If memory serves -- and it's been a few years and I don't have references to
hand -- , the family used both the terms Marquis and Comte, and D.A.F. used
the title Marquis earlier in his life but later ceded it to his son and was
simply Donatien Alphonse François, comte de Sade.
<snip />
> On 2007-04-14 18:53 (-0600 UTC), The Real Bev wrote:
>
> <snip />
>
>>> hmmmmm - some people are more sadistic than even ol' Count Sade
>>> himself! (or was he a Baron??)
>>
>> Marquis.
>
> If memory serves -- and it's been a few years and I don't have references to
> hand -- , the family used both the terms Marquis and Comte, and D.A.F. used
> the title Marquis earlier in his life but later ceded it to his son and was
> simply Donatien Alphonse François, comte de Sade.
I bow to your superior and far more extensive knowledge. My study of
European history consisted of pretty much one course, the instructor of
which told the same dirty jokes about the Empress Maria Theresa of Austria
every year. And the Battle of Hastings in 1066 ("Yes, it WILL be on the
test."), but I don't think Maria had anything to do with that.
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"The way England treats her prisoners, she doesn't
deserve to have any." --Oscar Wilde
Leave them be. IE works correctly more often than FF!!!
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Please do something good for the world!
These folks have a system that uses the time your machine would be
idling showing a screen saver to do Medical and / or Cancer research.
NO spam or malware. http://www.grid.org/projects/hpf/
<snip />
> Leave them be. IE works correctly more often than FF!!!
*blink* -- It does?
I haven't used IE for some years now, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by
'correctly'. . . .
I started two threads about Firefox issues, both have FF in the subject.
Take a look.
> On 2007-04-16 13:33 (-0600 UTC), Lou wrote:
>
> <snip />
>
>> Leave them be. IE works correctly more often than FF!!!
>
> *blink* -- It does?
>
> I haven't used IE for some years now, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by
> 'correctly'. . . .
>
Lou was in "complain" mode. He was having a couple issues that even he
realized wasn't a FF problem but more due to something he has installed
to it. So at the time he was feeling that way.
YAbut NO ONE has ever been able to figure out what the hell is going on
so, since BOTH IE and Opera have no problem with viewing Yahoo mail I am
now about to abandon FF.
> Terry R. wrote:
>> On 4/16/2007 11:31 PM On a whim, Brian Heinrich pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> On 2007-04-16 13:33 (-0600 UTC), Lou wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip />
>>>
>>>> Leave them be. IE works correctly more often than FF!!!
>>> *blink* -- It does?
>>>
>>> I haven't used IE for some years now, so I'm not quite sure what you
>>> mean by 'correctly'. . . .
>>>
>> Lou was in "complain" mode. He was having a couple issues that even he
>> realized wasn't a FF problem but more due to something he has installed
>> to it. So at the time he was feeling that way.
>>
>
> YAbut NO ONE has ever been able to figure out what the hell is going on
> so, since BOTH IE and Opera have no problem with viewing Yahoo mail I am
> now about to abandon FF.
>
Did you try my suggestions? You haven't reported back.
> Terry R. wrote:
>> On 4/17/2007 7:53 AM On a whim, Lou pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> Terry R. wrote:
>>>> On 4/16/2007 11:31 PM On a whim, Brian Heinrich pounded out on the
>>>> keyboard
>>>>
>>>>> On 2007-04-16 13:33 (-0600 UTC), Lou wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip />
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leave them be. IE works correctly more often than FF!!!
>>>>> *blink* -- It does?
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't used IE for some years now, so I'm not quite sure what you
>>>>> mean by 'correctly'. . . .
>>>>>
>>>> Lou was in "complain" mode. He was having a couple issues that even
>>>> he realized wasn't a FF problem but more due to something he has
>>>> installed to it. So at the time he was feeling that way.
>>>>
>>> YAbut NO ONE has ever been able to figure out what the hell is going
>>> on so, since BOTH IE and Opera have no problem with viewing Yahoo mail
>>> I am now about to abandon FF.
>>>
>> Did you try my suggestions? You haven't reported back.
>>
> I thought I did report back somewhere. I disabled all add-ons and there
> was no difference.
>
But did you also try Safe Mode like I recommended?
<snip />
> YAbut NO ONE has ever been able to figure out what the hell is going on [ . . . ]
This wouldn't be the issue whereby you actually have to go and change
something in the Yahoo! Mail control panel, would it?
> [ . . . ]
> so, since BOTH IE and Opera have no problem with viewing Yahoo mail I am
> now about to abandon FF.
I find Opera rather awkward to use, but still prefer it to IE. . . .
> Wouldn't this problem with Yahoo mail be handled better by continuing
> in the Lou's original thread, rather than as footnote to this long thread.
> I think there was little feedback in Lou's thread(s). I don't think
> there was any report back on running in safe mode, or if there
> were changes to userChrome.css
> See
> http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/adblock.htm#diagnostics
Sure it would if the OP would do so rather than continuing his
complaints in this thread. I asked him if he tried my suggestions (in
his post) and he hasn't completely answered it yet, nor answered it in
his thread.
yahoo mail, hotmail, aim.com and others are working just
fine for me.
I do not use adblock.
If it is possible to copy/paste the entire prefs file I will - all I
need are instructions.
Hi Lou,
Might help to learn to use your newsreader better, I'm sure you
have something in Thunderbird such as "show my messages".
Messages often get lost track of even missing from the
newsgroup's server, especially if you get to a bad server,
but you can almost always find missing messages at Google Groups.
It would be good to get familiar with Google Groups Advanced
Search. Put your email address into the author. You can limit
by date range. I lost my stored things because of what I believe
were server problems as giganews, and I really don't want to
reload everything anyway, so I only see one thread you started
on my machine, but you can find everything at Google Groups.
See
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=group%3A*mozilla.support.firefox*+%25s&hl=en&num=100&
also see
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/search.htm#groupssearch
You will find your post among this year's
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&as_uauthors=saigepapa%40yahoo.com&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2007
and if you register you can continue from there (in Google Groups)
rather than trying to find the thread again in your newsreader, which
is Thunderbird and I have no suggestions for using TB. So if you
have something to add to the thread then you will see the thread
again in your newsreader even if only showing unread messages.
Hopefully you will continue not here but in one of your original
threads pertaining your problem.
If you are on Windows then suggest starting with
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/profile.htm
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/quicklaunch.htm
the prefs.js file in your profile is generated
the userpref.js file in your profile are your own changes
and tell Firefox to use these each time you startup
and will override at each startup changes made through
about:config and your tools options.
You can open the file in Firefox and look at it. Copy and paste
elsewhere. If you look at my home page, you might notice
that I use Notepad and if things don't look right there that
I use HTML-Kit and save with appropriate settings then I
can use Notepad. I use HTML-Kit because I have web
pages, might be overkill otherwise. But if you aren't using
Windows then half of what I say on this might not be
relevant to you.. Hope to see you in your original thread.
> Terry R. wrote:
>> On 4/17/2007 1:41 PM On a whim, David McRitchie pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> Wouldn't this problem with Yahoo mail be handled better by continuing
>>> in the Lou's original thread, rather than as footnote to this long
>>> thread.
>>> I think there was little feedback in Lou's thread(s). I don't think
>>> there was any report back on running in safe mode, or if there
>>> were changes to userChrome.css
>>> See
>>> http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/adblock.htm#diagnostics
>> Sure it would if the OP would do so rather than continuing his
>> complaints in this thread. I asked him if he tried my suggestions (in
>> his post) and he hasn't completely answered it yet, nor answered it in
>> his thread.
>>
> The OP has lost the original thread since he only sees Unread items
>
Lou,
Click View, Messages, All.
> Terry R. wrote:
>> On 4/17/2007 3:01 PM On a whim, Lou pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> Terry R. wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2007 1:41 PM On a whim, David McRitchie pounded out on the
>>>> keyboard
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't this problem with Yahoo mail be handled better by continuing
>>>>> in the Lou's original thread, rather than as footnote to this long
>>>>> thread.
>>>>> I think there was little feedback in Lou's thread(s). I don't think
>>>>> there was any report back on running in safe mode, or if there
>>>>> were changes to userChrome.css
>>>>> See
>>>>> http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/adblock.htm#diagnostics
>>>> Sure it would if the OP would do so rather than continuing his
>>>> complaints in this thread. I asked him if he tried my suggestions
>>>> (in his post) and he hasn't completely answered it yet, nor answered
>>>> it in his thread.
>>>>
>>> The OP has lost the original thread since he only sees Unread items
>>>
>> Lou,
>>
>> Click View, Messages, All.
>>
> I know I know but that show 1,234,560 messages
>
You were again sounding like you're complaining about a feature, so I
explained how to change it. So, View All, locate your "lost thread",
reply and change the view settings back!
<snip />
> So, View All, locate your "lost thread",
> reply and change the view settings back!
Which I do any time I need to find a specific post, since I only view unread
posts.
Another possibility: use [Flag|Star] and/or labels/tags in conjunction with
virtual folders (Saved Searches) to keep track of things. . . .
Well I gave up on this group and posted in another (private) group.
After a few days the problem was solved <vbg>
Here is a copy of the email from the great detective who solved it:
The last few sentences describe the fix!
> Leonidas Jones wrote: Maybe I'm
> on to something here.
>
> I disabled everything I could think of disabling,
> and
> the only way i could get the images not to display
> was
> if I disabled images entirely, or specifically
> blocked
> attach.mud.mail.yahoo.com or whatever it is. Even
> accepting from the originating website only, which
> is
> the usual cause of this, still allowed the images.
>
> I disabled javascript, cache,page referrers,
> redirects, all to no avail.
>
> However, cookies are an issue. When I disabled
> cookies altogether, I couldn't log into Yahoo at
> all, of course.
>
> However, when I disabled cookies for external web
> sites, suddenly the images would not load, and I
> would
> get broken image placeholders. Therefore I suspect
> you have a cookie permissions problem.
>
>
> In Firefox its hidden, but the about:config entry
> is:
>
> network.cookie.cookieBehavior
>
> Default value should be 0, setting it to 1 blocks
> the cookies that the images require.
>
> That's got to be it!
>
> Lee
THAT IS IT.