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lafill

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Nov 5, 2012, 12:55:49 PM11/5/12
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FF does not ask to save passwords for some web sites that use a pop-up
window to enter user name and password. Is there a work around?
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lafill FF16.0.2, Mac OSX 10.5.8


James Moe

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Nov 5, 2012, 1:02:47 PM11/5/12
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On 11/05/2012 10:55 AM, lafill wrote:
> FF does not ask to save passwords for some web sites that use a pop-up
> window to enter user name and password. Is there a work around?

I have not found a workaround. Those sites have decided that storing
your password locally is just too much of a security risk (we all know
how sloppy we are about such things) and designed the login to not look
like a login to the browser.

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James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com

gabor szakacs

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:47:41 PM11/5/12
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I'm not sure if it's compatible with the latest versions of FF, but I
used to use an extension called "Lazarus" that allowed you to retrieve
data previously typed into any sort of field. I never tried it
specifically for logins, though.

-- Gabor

clay

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Nov 5, 2012, 3:03:02 PM11/5/12
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There is (was) a hack that makes Firefox remember all passwords. I
forgot what it was so I had to google it.

No idea if it works anymore... and it gets whacked every time Firefox
updates, so it isn't a permanent fix.

Ron Hunter

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Nov 5, 2012, 4:36:11 PM11/5/12
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Those must be Javascript windows as real OS windows DO allow use of
saved passwords.

Jay Garcia

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Nov 5, 2012, 5:36:21 PM11/5/12
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On 05.11.2012 14:03, clay wrote:
Save this bookmarklet as a bookmark (hilite / copy / save):

javascript:(function(){var%20ca,cea,cs,df,dfe,i,j,x,y;function%20n(i,what){return%20i+%22%20%22+what+((i==1)?%22%22:%22s%22)}ca=cea=cs=0;df=document.forms;for(i=0;i<df.length;++i){x=df[i];dfe=x.elements;if(x.onsubmit){x.onsubmit=%22%22;++cs;}if(x.attributes[%22autocomplete%22]){x.attributes[%22autocomplete%22].value=%22on%22;++ca;}for(j=0;j<dfe.length;++j){y=dfe[j];if(y.attributes[%22autocomplete%22]){y.attributes[%22autocomplete%22].value=%22on%22;++cea;}}}alert(%22Removed%20autocomplete=off%20from%20%22+n(ca,%22form%22)+%22%20and%20from%20%22+n(cea,%22form%20element%22)+%22,%20and%20removed%20onsubmit%20from%20%22+n(cs,%22form%22)+%22.%20After%20you%20type%20your%20password%20and%20submit%20the%20form,%20the%20browser%20will%20offer%20to%20remember%20your%20password.%22)})();



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VanguardLH

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Nov 5, 2012, 10:18:52 PM11/5/12
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"lafill" wrote:

> FF does not ask to save passwords for some web sites that use a pop-up
> window to enter user name and password. Is there a work around?

Maybe it's not the web page that is presenting input fields in which to
enter your login credentials. Maybe those sites are using NT
authentication which is part of windows and the popup you see is the
Windows login dialog (which is not part of the web page).

I believe those passwords are viewed by going to Control Panel -> User
Accounts -> Pick an account -> Click "Manage my network passwords" in
the left pane.

For example, when you enter http://192.168.1.1 to go to your router's
web server for its config pages, the login you see is not part of any
web page. It's their *server* requesting the login (often through NT
authorization). I know Microsoft's IIS server can be setup to require a
login (it's the server requesting the login, not some input fields in
the web page that then gets sent to the server after your submit the
fields in a form). The dialog is a direct login session with the
server, not some passing of values through fields defined in a web page.

More could be understood of what you are asking by providing a
screenshot of the popup dialog you mention and then uploading it to some
publicly accessible file server where you can save the photo. Then give
a link here to it so others can see what you are asking about.

Neil

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:54:53 PM11/5/12
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I use an add-on called Remember Passwords:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/remember-passwords

I have used this addon through several versions of Firefox
and Windows. I currently have the latest version of
Firefox, on a Windows 7 x64 computer, and that addon still
seems to work OK. However, I cannot guarantee it, as I have
not saved a password since I got this computer.

Neil

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:57:48 PM11/5/12
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I should say that I have the latest release version of
Firefox, 16.0.2.

V S Rawat

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:13:02 AM11/6/12
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lazarus-form-recovery/?src=search

yes, Lazarus is available for ff 16.0.2
Thanks for the tip. I have faced this problem a a lot of time that I
fill up form and then it disappears due to net connection problem or due
to page retorting with some content error and when I go back, this were
gone.

installing this.

Thanks again.
--
Rawat

Ron Hunter

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:20:10 AM11/6/12
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Humm. My router (Cisco) requires a password, and FF does provide it.
The 'server', BTW, is in the router firmware.

Ron Hunter

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:22:01 AM11/6/12
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I use it here, on Win7 64bit, and FF17 beta. Works on most sites.
Those that store passwords in cookies still won't work if cookies aren't
retained...sigh.

V S Rawat

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:42:39 AM11/6/12
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On 11/5/2012 11:25 PM, lafill wrote:
> FF does not ask to save passwords for some web sites that use a pop-up
> window to enter user name and password. Is there a work around?

install secure login addon. does many more things also.

Thanks.
--
Rawat

Bill Braun

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Nov 6, 2012, 11:06:20 AM11/6/12
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My investment company website uses a property of the form markup to
defeat autocomplete, in the form of:

<input type="text" id="cardNumber" name="cardNumber" autocomplete='off'/>

which w3schools.com describes as HTML5.

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/att_form_autocomplete.asp

Bill



VanguardLH

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Nov 6, 2012, 11:34:44 AM11/6/12
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Depends on HOW the input fields are presented for login. Are you
getting presented with a web page where you enter your login credentials
or do you get a separate NT auth popup window that the *server*
presented?

NTLM and Kerebos present their own login dialogs. Those dialogs are
presented by the server when you attempt to access a restricted
resource. They aren't part of the web page. It's very possible with
HTML/CSS to create a pseudo popup (looks like a popup but it's within
the web page). For your login dialog, can you drag it outside the
boundaries of your web browser?

http://sivel.net/2007/05/firefox-ntlm-sso/

In my current config of FF 16 (just started using it), that setting has
a value of null (it's not been set yet). That article is 5 years old so
it's possible Mozilla made a change in behavior and now caches those
non-web page login fields. When I search the config on "kerebos", I
don't see any.

As a test, I had password caching disabled in FF 16 so I enabled it (and
exited FF). I went to http://192.168.1.1 to connect to my router's web
server and got the separate (non-web page) dialog popup for login. I
entered the login credentials. FF then popped up its prompt asking me
if I wanted to save the password. I said yes. I then exited FF and
reloaded it to the 192.168.1.1 IP address again. If FF had cached the
password and could use it with the separate (non-web page) login prompt
then I should not have to enter my login. Nope, I had to enter the
login credentials again. So despite having password caching enabled in
FF and despite the bogus prompt by FF making me think it will save my
password, it did not.

I'm talking about what happens to the login caching between *separate*
sessions of FF, not within the same session. If I enter my login
credentials in the separate (non-web page) login dialog, I get into my
router's config screens. I can then wander around to different sites
and when I return to http://192.168.1.1 there's no need to reenter the
login credentials. It's when I *exit* FF and then reload it that I'll
have to reenter those login credentials because I'll still get that
separate (non-web page) login prompt despite password caching is enabled
in FF and despite FF making me thing with its "Remember" prompt that it
will save it (to reuse it). Maybe it did save that password in its
cache but it doesn't seem to manage to input it into the separate (non-
web page) login dialog.
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