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jmccay

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Dec 16, 2006, 8:53:25 PM12/16/06
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Is there was to prevent an image from splitting between two pages?
This can be annoying when I am printing programming articles with
figures that are used to illustrate points or describe something.
Normally I do not care about the images. Thank you.
jmccay

Leonidas Jones

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Dec 17, 2006, 12:28:42 AM12/17/06
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Firefox is a web browser, printing is not a major concern.

When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor. You
will get much more access into how the page is printed then any browser
wil give you.

Lee

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CBFalconer

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Dec 17, 2006, 2:12:32 AM12/17/06
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Leonidas Jones wrote:
> jmccay wrote:
>
>> Is there was to prevent an image from splitting between two pages?
>> This can be annoying when I am printing programming articles with
>> figures that are used to illustrate points or describe something.
>> Normally I do not care about the images. Thank you.
>
> Firefox is a web browser, printing is not a major concern.
>
> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
> browser wil give you.

I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
dimensions, etc. very nicely. I print directly from the browser
quite often. I also find the utility Fineprint very useful
(<http://www.fineprint.com>) to combine multiple pages into a
single printable document, especially in booklet form.

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Brian Heinrich

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Dec 17, 2006, 2:23:36 AM12/17/06
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On 2006-12-17 00:12 (-0700 UTC), CBFalconer wrote:

> Leonidas Jones wrote:

<snip />

>> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
>> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
>> browser wil give you.
>
> I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
> dimensions, etc. very nicely.

In fact, with CSS, you can set an @print stylesheet, set page breaks, &c,
but Lee's point is well taken, since HTML tends to be written for the
viewport rather than for the printed page. . . .

/b.

<snip />

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Ron Hunter

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Dec 17, 2006, 4:03:30 AM12/17/06
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Move the page into a word processing program, then format the print.


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Ron Hunter

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Dec 17, 2006, 4:04:33 AM12/17/06
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CBFalconer wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> jmccay wrote:
>>
>>> Is there was to prevent an image from splitting between two pages?
>>> This can be annoying when I am printing programming articles with
>>> figures that are used to illustrate points or describe something.
>>> Normally I do not care about the images. Thank you.
>> Firefox is a web browser, printing is not a major concern.
>>
>> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
>> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
>> browser wil give you.
>
> I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
> dimensions, etc. very nicely. I print directly from the browser
> quite often. I also find the utility Fineprint very useful
> (<http://www.fineprint.com>) to combine multiple pages into a
> single printable document, especially in booklet form.
>

CAN be, yes, but lazy HTML coders often don't give any consideration to
this issue.


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Alex K.

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Dec 17, 2006, 4:39:38 AM12/17/06
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Brian Heinrich wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 00:12 (-0700 UTC), CBFalconer wrote:
>
>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>
> <snip />
>
>>> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
>>> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
>>> browser wil give you.
>> I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
>> dimensions, etc. very nicely.
>
> In fact, with CSS, you can set an @print stylesheet, set page breaks, &c,
> but Lee's point is well taken, since HTML tends to be written for the
> viewport rather than for the printed page. . . .

Just to add my $.02, it seems, to me at least, that where FF printing
breaks down is with tables, or pages laid out with tables.

Pages with just basic formatting, or using CSS for formatting, without
complicated tables, seem to print just fine for me. Even simple tables
can be a problem, in certain cases.

I believe that this issue is being addressed by the 'reflow rework' for
FF3. See, for example, my post in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/8d05e539e6399c16/30f4dd71cfda7c2a

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C A Upsdell

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Dec 17, 2006, 2:29:24 PM12/17/06
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If you are making the pages, CSS has properties that can be used to
prevent this sort of thing, but unfortunately they tend not to work very
well, so these properties are of questionable use.

If you are not making the pages, you might try copying and pasting them
into a word processing program, which is more capable of this sort of thing.

Brian Heinrich

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Dec 17, 2006, 6:21:45 PM12/17/06
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I may be wrong, but I thought the reflow work was been focussed on Acid2?
(See, /e.g./, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2>.)

/b.

Alex K.

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Dec 18, 2006, 6:53:45 AM12/18/06
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That could be. I made my assumption based on researching several print
layout bugs on bugzilla, that pointed back to the reflow rework bug.
Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark the bugs in question, so I don't have
specifics.

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moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:40:53 PM12/19/06
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Umm yeh, learn CSS2.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:41:14 PM12/19/06
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Leonidas Jones wrote:
> jmccay wrote:
>> Is there was to prevent an image from splitting between two pages?
>> This can be annoying when I am printing programming articles with
>> figures that are used to illustrate points or describe something.
>> Normally I do not care about the images. Thank you.
>> jmccay
>>
>
> Firefox is a web browser, printing is not a major concern.
>
> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor. You
> will get much more access into how the page is printed then any browser
> wil give you.
>
> Lee
>

Don't mean to be rude but what would you know sister.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:41:52 PM12/19/06
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CBFalconer wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> jmccay wrote:
>>
>>> Is there was to prevent an image from splitting between two pages?
>>> This can be annoying when I am printing programming articles with
>>> figures that are used to illustrate points or describe something.
>>> Normally I do not care about the images. Thank you.
>> Firefox is a web browser, printing is not a major concern.
>>
>> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
>> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
>> browser wil give you.
>
> I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
> dimensions, etc. very nicely. I print directly from the browser
> quite often. I also find the utility Fineprint very useful
> (<http://www.fineprint.com>) to combine multiple pages into a
> single printable document, especially in booklet form.
>

You're obviously from the bad old days of Netscape when tags were used
for formatting.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:42:09 PM12/19/06
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Brian Heinrich wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 00:12 (-0700 UTC), CBFalconer wrote:
>
>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>
> <snip />
>
>>> When I want to print content, I copy/paste it into a word processor.
>>> You will get much more access into how the page is printed then any
>>> browser wil give you.
>>
>> I disagree. HTML (when properly written) can adapt to various page
>> dimensions, etc. very nicely.
>
> In fact, with CSS, you can set an @print stylesheet, set page breaks,
> &c, but Lee's point is well taken, since HTML tends to be written for
> the viewport rather than for the printed page. . . .
>
> /b.
>
> <snip />
>

Good call.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:43:15 PM12/19/06
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<caption></caption> tags are only for tables my friend.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:44:10 PM12/19/06
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Lazy, don't you mean dumb?

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:44:34 PM12/19/06
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Lmao don't ever let me hear you say that again.

moz flyer

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Dec 19, 2006, 10:44:58 PM12/19/06
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Please explain why.

C A Upsdell

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Dec 19, 2006, 11:26:07 PM12/19/06
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Why what? Why the browsers don't support the CSS page break properties
very well: I don't know, I can only assume that this has not been a
priority for the browser makers. Or do you mean why a word processing
program is better? Just look at, for example, the various Insert Page
Break commands that Word offers: you have tremendous control over
pagination, page breaks, etc.

Leonidas Jones

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Dec 19, 2006, 11:28:17 PM12/19/06
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Garth alert, resident troll. Ignore his posts.

moz flyer

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Dec 20, 2006, 12:21:22 AM12/20/06
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Alert Lee newbie html coder.
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