Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?

[Ant]

Hello.

Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that information. :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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[WaltS]

On 11/08/2012 03:02 PM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
> these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that information. :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
>

For Firefox.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-tab-count/?src=search
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[WaltS]

On 11/08/2012 03:02 PM, Ant wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
> these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that information. :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
>

Then there is this one

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-tab-count-widget/?src=search

[Ant]

On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
> these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that information. :(

Thanks WaltS. I will check those two out. I tried both in SeaMonkey
v2.13.2, but they refused to install. :(
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[Ant]

On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
> these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that information. :(

I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
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[Ron Hunter]

On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
>> Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in
>> these web browsers? Using "about:memory" doesn't show that
>> information. :(
>
> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(

I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a
LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Ant wrote:

> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(

123 tabs in one window!? Is that by choice or was it an accident? And you
have multiple windows with even more tabs...

If that wasn't an accident or some kind of anomaly, you must have much
more than the usual 24 hours in your day, in order to have time to read
them all. May I ask why you want so many tabs/windows open?

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[Ant]

On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed:

>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>
> I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a
> LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.

Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from
two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe
hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it
like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who
does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work
handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5
GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P
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[Ant]

On 11/10/2012 7:25 PM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed:

>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>
> 123 tabs in one window!? Is that by choice or was it an accident? And you
> have multiple windows with even more tabs...

By choice. I usually have one or two windows opened. :)

> If that wasn't an accident or some kind of anomaly, you must have much
> more than the usual 24 hours in your day, in order to have time to read
> them all. May I ask why you want so many tabs/windows open?

I like to load stuff for later usage. :)
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[Rufus]

Ant wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed:
>
>>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>>
>> I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a
>> LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.
>
> Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from
> two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe
> hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it
> like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who
> does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work
> handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5
> GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P

...good grief! I generally have only *one* window and no more than
three tabs open in it at a time. And I close a tab out as soon as I'm
done with it. I use tabs mainly from Google searches...open link in a
new tab, look, close...repeat. If something is that worth saving I
Bookmark it.

Because of having tabs I never open a second window...unless it's purely
by accident. What in the world are you doing?...

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[Ron Hunter]

On 11/11/2012 12:35 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed:
>
>>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>>
>> I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a
>> LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.
>
> Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from
> two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe
> hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it
> like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who
> does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work
> handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5
> GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P

It is always possible to overload a system, no matter how big it gets.
I am sure you aren't ONLY person who uses that many tabs, but the
percentage is probably very small.

[Ron Hunter]

On 11/11/2012 12:37 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 7:25 PM PT, Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed:
>
>>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>>
>> 123 tabs in one window!? Is that by choice or was it an accident? And you
>> have multiple windows with even more tabs...
>
> By choice. I usually have one or two windows opened. :)
>
>
>> If that wasn't an accident or some kind of anomaly, you must have much
>> more than the usual 24 hours in your day, in order to have time to read
>> them all. May I ask why you want so many tabs/windows open?
>
> I like to load stuff for later usage. :)

E-hoarder. Grin.

[Daniel]

Would certainly free up some memory!!

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[Ant]

On 11/10/2012 11:30 PM PT, Rufus typed:

> ...good grief! I generally have only *one* window and no more than
> three tabs open in it at a time. And I close a tab out as soon as I'm
> done with it. I use tabs mainly from Google searches...open link in a
> new tab, look, close...repeat. If something is that worth saving I
> Bookmark it.
>
> Because of having tabs I never open a second window...unless it's purely
> by accident. What in the world are you doing?...

Web surfing as a crazy Internet addict. :)
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[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Ant wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty typed:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! ...

>>
>> 123 tabs in one window!? Is that by choice or was it an accident? And
>> you have multiple windows with even more tabs...
>
> By choice. I usually have one or two windows opened. :)
>

>> ... May I ask why you want so many tabs/windows open?

>
> I like to load stuff for later usage. :)

Later in the month? <lol> It seems to me that if you are beyond 15 or 20
tabs open in one browser window, it doesn't really matter any longer
exactly how many there are. How about an alert window that says: "LOTS!"

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[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 11/11/2012 04:35, Ant told the world:

> On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed:
>
>>> I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close
>>> XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about
>>> 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :(
>>
>> I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a
>> LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.
>
> Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from
> two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe
> hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it
> like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who
> does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work
> handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5
> GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P

I have been reading the postings of the MemShrink and Snappy teams and
it appears that, albeit uncommon, your case is hardly unique -- there's
a good number of "extreme tab users" out there.
The good news is that there are a number of patches in various stages of
completion aimed at helping in your sort of use case.

The bad news is that no, I don't see your XP machine ever handling it
gracefully. 32-bit Windows by default does not give more than 2Gb to any
single application unless you run it with the /3Gb switch; and with 2.5
total RAM, probably not even that without a lot of disk swapping.

XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have this
feeling that the security patches MS released over the last couple years
have not received any consideration regarding performance impact; if it
works, it's fine for them, even if the patch causes serious performance
problems. Case in point: Microsoft Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM
for about 20 minutes right after XP boots up... the machine is basically
unusable for the first half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is
to disable Microsoft Update and go back to Windows Update.

I have been upgrading older machines at work to Windows 7 with
reasonably good results. As long as they have 1 Gb RAM, a dual-core CPU
and good driver support (video is the one that most often is missing),
the end result is better with Windows 7 than with XP.

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[The Wanderer]

That depends on your standards.

On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly
slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've
slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left.

On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly
above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably
overdue to prune this again.

On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more
than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are "note to
self" for something to transfer to a local database I keep of "things to check
for updates" (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing
such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't
expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic
day-to-day operation.


Those numbers are taken from the "restore crashed session" dialog, which does
provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count
without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one.

> Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin.

In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to
time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with
my time.

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[Paul B. Gallagher]

MCBastos wrote:

> XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have
> this feeling that the security patches MS released over the last
> couple years have not received any consideration regarding
> performance impact; if it works, it's fine for them, even if the
> patch causes serious performance problems. Case in point: Microsoft
> Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM for about 20 minutes right after
> XP boots up... the machine is basically unusable for the first
> half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is to disable Microsoft
> Update and go back to Windows Update.

Well, I'm not running WinXP anymore, but there /is/ a reasonable
alternative: don't shut down every night. Run the machine continuously,
let it update at 3 AM while you're sleeping. Yes, there's a performance
hit, but who cares if you're fast asleep until it's over?

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[Ron Hunter]

The only thing I recall seeing run after I boot is the MSE engine
checking things. Takes a while on my laptop. I guess the system turns
it off during the update, and it has to 'catch up'.

[Ron Hunter]

I can't imagine what you use all those tabs for. Seems like bookmarks
would be better, unless you have a slow connection. I seem to recall a
mention of a memory listing that shows memory use by tab. You might
check about:memory to see what it says.

[Ron Hunter]

On 11/11/2012 7:13 AM, The Wanderer wrote:

Just checked on FF 17 beta, and about:memory does list RAM use by tab.
Your list will be rather LONG as it takes 6 lines per tab.

[Ron Hunter]

MS Update normally only needs to run once a month. Just leave the
computer on on Monday night before the second Tuesday of each month, and
set Windows Update to update automatically.

[The Wanderer]

Bookmarks don't store tab history, or form data, or current position in the
page, or (for dynamically-generated or frequently-updated pages) the exact
current page state. They also don't store the position of the tab relative to
the other nearby tabs (unless you bookmark those other tabs as part of the same
group), which is also important in at least a few cases.

As for what I use them for, most of them are indeed backlog, from projects et
cetera which are on hold until I have time to get back to them. One subcategory
of those I'm in the process of trying to pull out to a separate database, which
can store information I can't store in the tab state (and can present it for
reference much more easily), but for my workflow most of the others belong
exactly where they are - until I get to them, after which they belong nowhere.
(Or possibly in a bookmark, at that point.)

> I seem to recall a mention of a memory listing that shows memory use by tab.
> You might check about:memory to see what it says.

I'm aware of about:memory, and I've looked at it on my laptop, but it turns out
that it isn't available on my home desktop; it must have been added in FF4 or
later. (I haven't yet gotten BarTab and my "how to restore my preferred user
interface" documentation to the point where I'm willing to trust my main browser
to the upgrade, although at this point I think I'm close.)

For what it's worth, memory usage isn't really a problem for me, in that the
desktop in question has 24GB of RAM; at the moment, with Firefox up and at least
an estimated 600 of those tabs unloaded by BarTab, I'm at around 5.5GB of total
system memory usage. (According to top, 3GB of that is actually Thunderbird.)

[Ant]

On 11/11/2012 6:58 AM PT, The Wanderer typed:

> Bookmarks don't store tab history, or form data, or current position in the
> page, or (for dynamically-generated or frequently-updated pages) the exact
> current page state. They also don't store the position of the tab
> relative to
> the other nearby tabs (unless you bookmark those other tabs as part of
> the same
> group), which is also important in at least a few cases.

Ditto for my usage. :(
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[Ron Hunter]

I think it was added (at least the part about extensions), rather more
recently, as in 17. I am sure it will be in 17 ESR.
But with as many tabs as you have, it will take you a while to read the
list.