Does anybody have a suggestion other than having to continually export
the bookmarks to overwrite the existing bookmarks file? This added step
is too much for me as often as I alter my bookmark.... eh,
"places.sqlite" file.
By the way, IMO, the three new "non-bookmark bookmarks" named "Most
Visited", "Recently Bookmarked" and "Recent Tags" shouldn't even be in
bookmarks, they should be under the "History" menu item.
If you export the "places.sqlite" file to the "bookmarks.html" file, and
then open that file in FF3, clicking on any of those "non-bookmark
bookmarks" results in the following error message:
_____________________________________________________________________
Alert
Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol
(place) isn't associated with
any program.
OK
_____________________________________________________________________
and since they are history related items, all of them, IMO they
shouldn't be under the "Bookmarks" menu but rather, should be under the
"History" menu item.
Regardless, the switching from use of the bookmarks.html to the
"places.sqlite" file is going to cause me tons of other problems which I
won't go into here.
I don't need this grief.
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John Corliss
John, please remember that the bookmarks.html file was not intended to
be displayed in a browser, or used as a start page.
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Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia
Well, for a file that was never intended to be displayed, it sure does
so perfectly, even down to displaying link descriptions.
I'm currently trying to find a freeware program which will allow me to
both view and edit .sqlite files.
--
John Corliss
As Alex said in "Clockwork Orange", "Welly welly welly well!"
LOL God bless you. Just what I was looking for!!!!
--
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--
-- Ned --
Really! That's excellent and works great! Many, many thanks!
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John Corliss
> John, please remember that the bookmarks.html file was not intended to
> be displayed in a browser, or used as a start page.
Chris, I have to confess I'm totally confused by this bookmark change
business. Though my bookmarks *did* survive the change from 2.0.0.14 to
The V3 release yesterday.
1) In Ff3 is the bookmarks.html file still used?
2) Aside from being a db file. what exactly does places.sqlite do?
When I've looked at it in a sqlite Db manager, or the addon SQlite
manager, I see nothing that is user, usable. Or to put it another way, I
don't see my bookmarks.
If bookmarks.html is not being used, just where are they stored?
Thanks
Dave S
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Thanks for that bit 'o info Ned, just what I needed.
cheers
Dave S
--
In the "about:config" interface, set "browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML"
to "true"
No.
> 2) Aside from being a db file. what exactly does places.sqlite do?
>
> When I've looked at it in a sqlite Db manager, or the addon SQlite
> manager, I see nothing that is user, usable. Or to put it another way, I
> don't see my bookmarks.
>
> If bookmarks.html is not being used, just where are they stored?
places.sqlite is file, where bookmarks and history are stored. I'm not
sure what you mean by what does it "do". I haven't used the add-on; but
SQLite [1] is an open-source database format, and I have used a separate
SQLite Database Browser [2]. The bookmarks are in places.sqlite. :-)
[1]<http://www.sqlite.org/>
[2]<http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/>
[Snip]
> > If bookmarks.html is not being used, just where are they stored?
> places.sqlite is file, where bookmarks and history are stored. I'm not
> sure what you mean by what does it "do". I haven't used the add-on; but
> SQLite [1] is an open-source database format, and I have used a separate
> SQLite Database Browser [2]. The bookmarks are in places.sqlite. :-)
[Snip Links. Thanks for those]
Obviously my Ff3 Profile does have a places.sqlite file, but it doesn't
contain any bookmarks or history in user readable form.
Viewed in SQLite Database browser it contains stuff like...
+ Moz_bookmarks table CREATE TABLEmoz_bookmarks...
and so on.
Same for History.
I've expanded very single + There is not a single bookmark stored in
places.sqlite
So I remain confused.
Cheers
Dave S
--
> Obviously my Ff3 Profile does have a places.sqlite file, but it
> doesn't contain any bookmarks or history in user readable form.
>
> Viewed in SQLite Database browser it contains stuff like...
>
> + Moz_bookmarks table CREATE TABLEmoz_bookmarks...
>
> and so on.
>
> Same for History.
>
> I've expanded very single + There is not a single bookmark stored in
> places.sqlite
The URLs and titles are in a table called "moz_places".
[Snip]
> >
> > I've expanded very single + There is not a single bookmark stored in
> > places.sqlite
> >
> > So I remain confused.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dave S
> >
> Open places.sqlite, click on moz_places.
> My bookmarks are there.
Thanks folks, I'm now in the picture.
When I was searching the Db and opened moz_places, the "url" column only
showed http://www. all else was behind the next column "title" which
contained mostly one and a half words.
Again thanks for the input, appreciated.
Cheers
Dave S
I have a downer on dedicated DB applications, So...
For what it's worth, I've made the About:Config mod., so that the
Bookmarks.html is updated.
D.
--
> YES - but not to read the BMs into your browser. You can set FF3 to
> auto-update bookmarks.html in the about:config. This allows you to
> use the profile for BOTH FF3 and an older version, as the profile is
> (by default) common to both. Therefor, the older version will use
> bookmarks.html, FF3 will use places.sqlite.
And any changes made to bookmarks.html by the old Fx will be
overwritten next time you use Fx 3.
--- Original Message ---
> true - damned Catch22 situation, isn't it! The user just can't win!
>
> reg
Bookmarks are no longer written to "bookmarks.html" unless you choose to
export.
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UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
Dave Pyles
--- Original Message ---
> On 6/21/2008 8:26 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 21.06.2008 06:03, squaredancer wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> true - damned Catch22 situation, isn't it! The user just can't win!
>>>
>>> reg
>>
>> Bookmarks are no longer written to "bookmarks.html" unless you choose to
>> export.
>>
> In about:config you can toggle browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to true
> and it will cause Firefox 3 to keep your bookmarks.html in sync with
> your places.sqlite file.
>
> Dave Pyles
Right, I should have said .. without having to jump through a hoop! ;-)
--- Original Message ---
> On 21.06.2008 15:00, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused David Pyles to
> generate the following:? :
> what Jay says would be true if he "reversed" the wording.
> places.sqlite isn't updated FROM the bookmarks.html file.... and that is
> a fatal situation for users of older versions wishing to use "their" BMs
> on an FF3 installation. This is what Blinky is looking for (in another
> thread) by using Bookmarks.html on a thumbdrive, sort of a "portable
> bookmarks" application.
>
> reg
>
>
If you change the pref to true then exit FF, the bookmarks.html file is
now populated like it always was. Otherwise it remains a blank file. I
think that's what David was indicating.
That's not much of a "hoop". More like a "seddit and fuggedit". Note
though, that the updating doesn't occur as you make changes.
Unfortunately, the bookmarks.html file gets updated only when you close
Firefox.
--
John Corliss
--- Original Message ---
Not for you or me it's no biggie hoop. But then again 90% of the users
out there are not you or me.
Those people would never even notice that the file name and format had
changed anyway. 80)>
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John Corliss
--- Original Message ---
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 21.06.2008 09:41, John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> That's not much of a "hoop". More like a "seddit and fuggedit". Note
>>> though, that the updating doesn't occur as you make changes.
>>> Unfortunately, the bookmarks.html file gets updated only when you close
>>> Firefox.
>>
>> Not for you or me it's no biggie hoop. But then again 90% of the users
>> out there are not you or me.
>
> Those people would never even notice that the file name and format had
> changed anyway. 80)>
>
They would if they tried to sync to a PDA or whatever else. You can't
sync an empty file. :-D
But since you're the antagonist of the hoop criteria, we'll put you in
charge of explaining to the nOObies how it works when the create the
fuss. :-)
The Flock team recognized that fact and will be adding the pref in the
UI as a checkbox in a future version. Flock 2 beta-1 is already released
for testing - http://www.flock.com/beta/download
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
--- Original Message ---
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 21.06.2008 06:03, squaredancer wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> true - damned Catch22 situation, isn't it! The user just can't win!
>>>
>>> reg
>>
>> Bookmarks are no longer written to "bookmarks.html" unless you choose to
>> export.
>>
> Or set the 'autoexport' on in about:config.
>
>
Right ... And the new Flock 2 beta-1 also has that in about:config AND
will be added as a check box UI later ..
--- Original Message ---
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 21.06.2008 09:41, John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> That's not much of a "hoop". More like a "seddit and fuggedit". Note
>>> though, that the updating doesn't occur as you make changes.
>>> Unfortunately, the bookmarks.html file gets updated only when you close
>>> Firefox.
>>
>> Not for you or me it's no biggie hoop. But then again 90% of the users
>> out there are not you or me.
>>
> GEESH, Jay, I hope there are more Firefox users than THAT!
> Grin.
>
>
Uhhh, tha't 90% of FF users .. GEESH yerself. :-)
--- Original Message ---
> On 21.06.2008 17:53, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Jay Garcia to
> generate the following:? :
> hmmmm - anyone who calls Bookmarks "favorites" (like Microsoft stuff) is
> on my suspicious list before we even start looking!
>
> reg
"Favorites" is more intuitive than "bookmarks" but ... :-)
To you, maybe, but as a reader, "bookmarks" make more sense to me! :-)
LOL He got yuh, didn't he.
--
John Corliss
> "Favorites" is more intuitive than "bookmarks" but ... :-)
Yes but! "Favourites" is up there with "MyComputer" in the cretin stakes.
Dave S
--
> yep - and if you are into things like encyclopedia etc, they also use
> "bookmark this article" and so on, so that you can go back to it!
> Also, the semantics of "favorites" is wrong - I bookmark a URL that I
> visit once in five years... does that make it one of my "favorites" ???
> A Bookmark is a marker, pure and simple - "mark this URL for future
> reference"
> reg
Hit the nail firmly on the head, well done that man.
Dave S
--
I quite agree, and putting my filepaths in the same bucket is downright
stupid.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Netscape use the term "Bookmark" long before Internet Explorer came
along and shoved the term "Favorite" down everybody's collective throats.
The term "Favorite", like "My Documents" (why not simply "Documents"?)
is a Microsoftism.
--
John Corliss
Yeah, but you can no longer put it where you find it useful.
--
Blinky
Is your ISP dropping Usenet?
Need a new feed?
http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html
>> hmmmm - anyone who calls Bookmarks "favorites" (like Microsoft stuff) is
>> on my suspicious list before we even start looking!
>
> "Favorites" is more intuitive than "bookmarks" but ... :-)
Only to IE users, since they've never read a book. :)
You can export bookmarks in either JSON format or HTML format from the
Organise Bookmarks window. If you export them to some other location to
back them up, you can import them from there.
I'd like it to remain on my flash drive so that both my desktop and
laptop systems can continue using it, depending where I'm sitting.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
I may be wrong about that but I've been wrong before... :-)
--
(^\pop/^)
I'm lost... I've gone to look for myself.
If I should return before I get back, keep me here.
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If they were on a network, I wouldn't be using the flash drive. :)
Now, with FF3, I have to upload places.sqlite ( a much larger file ),
clogging my Internet connection for 5+ minutes ? not good.
Can FireFox 3 decrease contrast and increase brightness of images
( preferably, just .JPG files ) ?
You can still use bookmarks.html:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=wMydncAAgJvHm8DV...@mozilla.org
Thanks for that. I've just read
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.places.importBookmarksHTML , and it
seems to me that if you make both of these options true in user.js,
browser.places.importBookmarksHTML
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML
you should have a bookmarks.html that is pretty much kept in sync with
places.sqlite. User.js is automatically read upon Firefox's startup, and
it overrides prefs.js, and it is not modified by the browser. That means
that you can keep importBookmarksHTML set. By default,
importBookmarksHTML is switched to false after the import, but user.js
will make sure it's always true when FX starts.
As you noted, this ( in User.JS ) works great:
“ user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true ); ”.
P.S. Sorry about the multiple posts,
News.Mozilla.ORG is acting real goofy.
Not only is it taking hours before a post shows up ( unheard of ),
it's accepting posts to newsgroups that don't exist,
e.g. it lets you post to “ Mozilla.Support.Firefox3ZZ ”.
Please suggest a regular newsgroup ( for FireFox 3 and CSS 3 ),
one that normal NNTP servers might carry.
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news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.org
alt.fan.mozilla
netscape.public.mozilla.browser
netscape.public.dev.css
Most probably the netscape.* newsgroups are inactive now. All those ng's
were moved over to the news.mozilla.org server years ago.
> Can FireFox 3 decrease contrast and increase brightness of images
> ( preferably, just .JPG files ) ?
No.
There is no newsgroup called mozilla.support.org.
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List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia
By the way, contrary to what I said in
“ news:Jeff_Relf@2008_Jun22_5.3Ai ”,
FF3 is now up to CSS 2.1, CSS 3 is schedualed for 3.1.
Opera 9.5 ( recently released ) already has CSS 3.
What version of CSS will IE8 hace when it comes out ?
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.firefox
> What version of CSS will IE8 hace when it comes out ?
Please find a Microsoft group to get answers to questions about their
products. microsoft.* is carried by most Usenet servers, or you could
use their own msnews.microsoft.com server.
[followup set to mozilla.general]
Too bad the import setting doesn't seem to really work. Well, it does
*something* - namely, discards the new bookmarks I create (which after
all should be saved in the sqlite file).
So, for the purpose of sharing bookmarks among multiple computers, I
am where I started - FF3 seems to make it impossible. !&*#%!#!
What were they *thinking* ??
> What version of CSS will IE8 hace when it comes out ?
Hi Jeff_Relf,
Please start a new thread for a new question, you have incorrectly
started a new question by replying to someone else's question to
start a sub-thread of your own with a different subject, then again new
subjects of your own on your purloined sub-threads and again quoting
irrelevant information from a thread, so people don't know what
they are or should be replying to. Don't change the subject of a thread.
Do start a new thread for a new question.
Every new thread has a reference number and each reply carries
reference numbers to each posting directly replied to, so it is easy
to see that you are making a mess of threads, and changing subjects.
If you are not seeing a threaded view of this newsgroup then you are using
newsgroups incorrectly.
I can't tell how you are accessing this newsgroup, but the following article
helps with subscribing to newsgroups
http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/01/instructions-for-new-newsgroup-server/
but does not how to show threads for each newsreader.
--
HTH,
David McRitchie, extensions I use are briefly documented on my site
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm
Gee, maybe the OP would like to know what you did in detail.
Yeah, me too. Grin.
There are two config entries, one is export bookmarks and the other
import bookmarks. If they are both set correctly, then bookmarks.html
file is SUPPOSED to be updated correctly. However, I have since created
a clean profile for FF3 and have not made the changes, since I no longer
switch between FF2 and FF3.
You and whoever it was that decided Mozilla.Support.Firefox
shouldn't be carried by other NNTP servers would be “ More Valuable ”
if you could actually understand how UseNet works .. if.
You reply to a post ( a person ), not a thread, not a newsgroup.
Threads branch like a tree; my titles reflect that, yours should too.
You told me:
“ Every new thread has a reference number
and each reply carries reference numbers
to each posting directly replied to ”.
They're called Message-ID's ( “ article numbers ” are numbers );
going down the root, the current subthread ( branch ) is:
“ Jeff_Relf@2008_Jun22_10.31Pp
Mumia_Wotse dvGdnT0LY7cExMLV...@mozilla.org
Jeff_Relf@2008_Jun23_2.45A5
Mumia_Wotse 2KadnQS80MXcRcLV...@mozilla.org
Jeff_Relf@2008_Jun24_2.24A6
David_McRitchie eb-dnfSD35SxnhrV...@mozilla.org ”.
You told me:
“ I can't tell how you are accessing this newsgroup ”.
I use “ News.Mozilla.ORG:80 ”; my hand-rolled newsreader
is called X.EXE ( it's in my “ JeffRelf.F-M.FM/Games.ZIP ” ).
I loathe sigs, but I noticed yours has: “ MVPS.ORG/dmcritchie ”.
Your FireFox page is way too large and it takes too long to load.
On FireFox 3, I'm using: “ JeffRelf.F-M.FM/userContent.CSS ”.