Please improve FF printing on Mac!
LoQue
at least) and is in need of an improvement.
For instance, go to the following site:
http://www.creaceed.com/hydra/reviews_articles.html
Now try try doing a print preview (File-Print-Preview).
Notice that it only consists of 3 pages which is a totally mess where
most of the content is missing.
Next try opening the exact same page in the Safari browser and do a
print-preview. Notice several differences?
1) A progress dialog comes up (in FF this is missing completely)
2) The entire web page comes up in the print-preview window
3) Links work in the preview (this is particularly useful if you "print
to PDF", saving the web page as a PDF document
Any chance we'll see any of these improvements in FF?
Sid
I think you should post a Mozilla Bug ticket, not a request for
support. Google Mozilla Bug.
David McRitchie
Good luck on that because the bugs refer back to one which is marked
fixed, and tell you to file a new bug if it doesn't work, and guess where
the new bugs) will eventually probably point to.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154892
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319931
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=print+only+first+page
I'd say your workaround on your Mac is to print the page with Safari or any
other browser available to you as you have done. Fortunately most web
pages do not have this problem, which I expect is like the reported bugs
that involve absolute references HTML containers.
Another workaround, and this really stinks because Print Preview doesn't
work with a selection so you have to actually print, though you can print to
a PDF file and view that. Select the information you really want to print
the comments under "Reviews & Articles" in the center and print using
selection. Absolute positioning leaves big margin on left side where
the excluded portion would have printed. FWIW printing the entire page
instead of a selection to a PDF has the same problem.
Windows users have an advantage in being able to bring up the current page in
another browser with the "Launchy" extension which reads the Windows Registry
and can add a launchy.xml for additional browsers/applications. Linux users can
use the launchy.xml file with the extension -- but not all Linux users are successful
with that.. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/81 more information on my homepage.
Sorry this workaround is not available to you the original poster.
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HTH,
David McRitchie, extensions I use are briefly documented on my site
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm
David McRitchie
Since the only real Firefox workaround would be to make a selection
and print the selection, I finally put in a bug to ask for Print Preview
to be able to preview printing a selection.
Bug 489068 - Add "Print Preview of Selection" to File menu
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489068
I expect it will be found to be a duplicate, as most of mine have been.
LoQue
>> On Apr 18, 8:39 pm, LoQue <v...@no.thing> wrote:
>>> It seems that printing has never worked satisfactorly in FF (Mac version
>>> at least) and is in need of an improvement.
> Good luck on that because the bugs refer back to one which is marked
> fixed, and tell you to file a new bug if it doesn't work, and guess where
> the new bugs) will eventually probably point to.
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154892
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319931
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=print+only+first+page
What???? Several people have reported the same bug and the developers
ignore it and mark it as being fixed?
And I though Firefox was supposed to be a serious alternative to
Internet Explorer, Safari etc. :-(
> I'd say your workaround on your Mac is to print the page with Safari or
> any other browser available to you as you have done. Fortunately most web
> pages do not have this problem, which I expect is like the reported bugs
> that involve absolute references HTML containers.
Well, "most" web pages just doesn't cut it.
If I come across something interesting on the web I often save it as a
PDF file (Edit-Print-Save PDF). That way it doesn't matter if the site
is down or even deleted some time later.
So this is my workflow:
1) Save the page as PDF within Firefox (Edit-Print-Save PDF) on my Mac
desktop
2) Double-click the PDF file in order to check it (problem #1: I have no
idea when saving is done as there's no progress-dialog to tell me this,
so in case I try to open it before it's saved I get a "File error
-couldn't open the file" message.
3) If it looks OK, fine (although none of the links in the PDF document
work).
4) If it looks completely crap (as in my original example in this
thread) I have to (a) copy the URL from Firefox, (b) open the Safari
browser (or Shiira, which unfortunately seems to have been abandoned
now), (c) paste the URL into its address-bar, then go to that page, (d)
save it to PDF and finally (d) check the page on the desktop.
If it wasn't for all the excellent third party Firefox extensions I
would most likely use Safari/Shiira instead.
> Select the information you really want to
> print
> the comments under "Reviews & Articles" in the center and print using
> selection.
I'm not sure if I follow, but in order to do away with the empty pages
(page 1 and 3 if trying to print this page:
http://www.creaceed.com/hydra/reviews_articles.html) I can do as follows:
1) Go to: http://www.creaceed.com/hydra/reviews_articles.html
2) Select Edit-Print
3) Press the "Preview" button in the print window
4) Look through the preview window to see which pages you want (in this
case only page 2 is worth saving)
5) In the "Preview" application, go to File-Print
6) Choose which page(s) to print. In this example:
Pages: from page: 2 to 2
7) Press the "PDF" button, then "Save PDF".
This still doesn't solve the problem that Firefox cuts off a lot of
information in many pages (such as in my example, it stops after where
the text says "Christmas Lights & HDR"). There is in fact a lot more on
that web page.
I really can't believe the developers aren't taking this seriously as
it's not something which only affects a few people. Is there a way to
actually email whoever specializes coding for this section of Firefox?
»Q«
"David McRitchie" <fire...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Off-topic (OT) response related to workaround.
>
> Since the only real Firefox workaround would be to make a selection
> and print the selection, I finally put in a bug to ask for Print
> Preview to be able to preview printing a selection.
>
> Bug 489068 - Add "Print Preview of Selection" to File menu
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489068
Even with that, there may still be trouble, since "print selection"
sometimes only gets people a single page of printout.
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=print+only+first+page+selection>
Printing with Firefox and Mozilla has always been atrocious. AFAICT
from reading bugzilla entries over the years, printing bugs are hard for
them to work on. I don't have much hope for it unless MozCorp decide
to make it a priority and hire a team of people to fix it all, since
few people seem interested in the work otherwise.
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LoQue <vo...@no.thing> wrote:
> On 19-04-2009 15:32, David McRitchie wrote:
>
> >> On Apr 18, 8:39 pm, LoQue <v...@no.thing> wrote:
> >>> It seems that printing has never worked satisfactorly in FF (Mac
> >>> version at least) and is in need of an improvement.
>
> > Good luck on that because the bugs refer back to one which is marked
> > fixed, and tell you to file a new bug if it doesn't work, and guess
> > where the new bugs) will eventually probably point to.
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154892
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319931
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=print+only+first+page
>
> What???? Several people have reported the same bug and the developers
> ignore it and mark it as being fixed?
No. The only one above that's fixed is that first one, 154892. The
second one, 319931, was a dupe of the first one.
Of the bugs in the third link that match the description of what you're
seeing, none are marked fixed and AFAICT none of their entries mention
the fixed 15892.
Leonidas Jones
I do not have an answer. I've been around these products since pre
Mozilla Suite 1.0, and printing has always been dreadful. Its a very low
priority for the developers, since printing web pages is a very low
priority for most users.
I do have a couple of suggested workarounds. My usual course is to copy
whatever I want to print, then paste it into a word processing document
and print form that. This gives far more control over what is actually
printed. In your example, it prints just the text of the reviews,
without the graphics. Unless, for some reason, you need the graphics, I
would think that better then wasting color ink and graphics that don't
do anything.
The other might be better. This is a page with dynamic content, so
bookmarking it is not of value. You keep talking about printing pdf's.
I assume this means that you want to save the content, either for
offline reading, or in case the content changes.
Why not simply save the web page? File>>Save Page As. You can either
save the complete page, with images, or save the html for the text
content. The page will display in the browser if you are offline,and,
if you are online, the links will all work.
Unless you truly need a paper copy of a page, this is the best solution,
better then any print solution in any browser.
On the other had, and I hate to say this, if printing form a browser is
very important in your browser use, FIrefox simply isn't the browser for
you.
Lee
Lou
> On 19.04.2009 22:41, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused »Q« to
> generate the following:? :
>
> reg
Sadly true!!
Lou
LoQue
> LoQue wrote:
>> If I come across something interesting on the web I often save it as a
>> PDF file (Edit-Print-Save PDF). That way it doesn't matter if the site
>> is down or even deleted some time later.
> The other might be better. This is a page with dynamic content, so
> bookmarking it is not of value. You keep talking about printing pdf's.
> I assume this means that you want to save the content, either for
> offline reading, or in case the content changes.
Yes, that's correct.
If I come across some useful information on the web I save it as a PDF
file (they usually call it "Print to PDF" for some reason).
> Why not simply save the web page? File>>Save Page As.
Indeed.
Well, for one it's messy. There's an "index.html" file and a folder
containing the rest. If you separate the two you're screwed.
With PDF there's only one file. I prefer the latter.
> Unless you truly need a paper copy of a page, this is the best solution,
> better then any print solution in any browser.
Very seldom.
But when I do need to print something I often end up with empty pages
(or one line of text on a sheet and the rest empty), cut off pages etc.
I certainly wouldn't pay for any software with behaviour like this!
> On the other had, and I hate to say this, if printing form a browser is
> very important in your browser use, FIrefox simply isn't the browser for
> you.
True. Something the developers apparently agree on as well :-(