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Robert M Jones
Feb 25, 2013, 10:43:12 AM2/25/13
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This blog:
http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
page on a new install.
Can anyone verify or refute this?
My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
The author writes:
"last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
Many thanks.
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http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
page on a new install.
Can anyone verify or refute this?
My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
The author writes:
"last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
Many thanks.
--
Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dataprofiling/
http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk
Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission
goes to our partners in Bulgaria)
http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420
WaltS
Feb 25, 2013, 10:51:56 AM2/25/13
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On 02/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
>
What is your home page now?
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
>
Type about:home into the address bar, and what do you see? That is the
Firefox default home page.
Someone else will have to comment on the cookie issue.
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Robert M Jones
Feb 25, 2013, 10:54:03 AM2/25/13
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On 25/02/2013 15:51, WaltS wrote:
> On 02/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>> This blog:
>> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
>> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
>> page on a new install.
>>
>> Can anyone verify or refute this?
>> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>>
>> The author writes:
>> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
>> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
>> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
>> open Firefox will be automatically “opted in†to accepting
> On 02/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>> This blog:
>> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
>> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
>> page on a new install.
>>
>> Can anyone verify or refute this?
>> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>>
>> The author writes:
>> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
>> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
>> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
>> Google’s 3rd
>> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person†. "
>>
>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
> What is your home page now?
>
> Type about:home into the address bar, and what do you see? That is the
> Firefox default home page.
>
> Someone else will have to comment on the cookie issue.
>
the article is about what allegedly happens in a fresh install. Outside
>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
> What is your home page now?
>
> Type about:home into the address bar, and what do you see? That is the
> Firefox default home page.
>
> Someone else will have to comment on the cookie issue.
>
the EU.
I don't have a fresh install, and I am inside the EU and its a long time
since I installed a fresh install of Firefox.
I don't believe the blog claim myself but it would be nice to hear a
Mozilla expert respond.
WaltS
Feb 25, 2013, 11:08:12 AM2/25/13
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see the Google cookie mentioned in the blog post, until I do a search
using the Google Search from the about:home page.
Only the mozilla.org cookies appear.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0
I am outside the EU.
Tom J
Feb 25, 2013, 2:17:47 PM2/25/13
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Robert M Jones wrote:
> On 25/02/2013 15:51, WaltS wrote:
>> On 02/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>>> This blog:
>>> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
>>> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
>>> page on a new install.
>>>
>>> Can anyone verify or refute this?
>>> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>>>
>>> The author writes:
>>> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for
>>> most users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU
>>> countries, but generally true globally). This means that most users
> On 25/02/2013 15:51, WaltS wrote:
>> On 02/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>>> This blog:
>>> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
>>> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
>>> page on a new install.
>>>
>>> Can anyone verify or refute this?
>>> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>>>
>>> The author writes:
>>> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for
>>> most users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU
>>> countries, but generally true globally). This means that most users
>>> the first time they open Firefox will be automatically “opted
>>> in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
>>> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
>>>
>>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>
>> What is your home page now?
>>
>> Type about:home into the address bar, and what do you see? That is
>> the Firefox default home page.
>>
>> Someone else will have to comment on the cookie issue.
>>
>
> the article is about what allegedly happens in a fresh install.
> Outside the EU.
> I don't have a fresh install, and I am inside the EU and its a long
> time since I installed a fresh install of Firefox.
> I don't believe the blog claim myself but it would be nice to hear a
> Mozilla expert respond.
I'm in the USA and just installed. It wanted to install Yahoo!! I did not
>>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>
>> What is your home page now?
>>
>> Type about:home into the address bar, and what do you see? That is
>> the Firefox default home page.
>>
>> Someone else will have to comment on the cookie issue.
>>
>
> the article is about what allegedly happens in a fresh install.
> Outside the EU.
> I don't have a fresh install, and I am inside the EU and its a long
> time since I installed a fresh install of Firefox.
> I don't believe the blog claim myself but it would be nice to hear a
> Mozilla expert respond.
let it do that. I use <https://startpage.com/eng/> so I don't get the spam
that comes with most search engines!!
Tom J
Ron Hunter
Feb 25, 2013, 3:05:06 PM2/25/13
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On 2/25/2013 9:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
>
Not here. Sets mozilla.org as home page. Google does show up as the
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> open Firefox will be automatically “opted in” to accepting Google’s 3rd
> party cookies as they would have visited Google “in person”. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
>
default search though, as well as I remember.
Peter
Feb 25, 2013, 3:11:11 PM2/25/13
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On 2/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
> This blog: http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies claims
> today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home page on
> a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this? My understanding, is that Firefox
> does no such thing.
>
> The author writes: "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default
> Home Page for most users (I believe this is different in a couple of
> EU countries, but generally true globally). This means that most
> users the first time they open Firefox will be automatically �opted
> This blog: http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies claims
> today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home page on
> a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this? My understanding, is that Firefox
> does no such thing.
>
> The author writes: "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default
> Home Page for most users (I believe this is different in a couple of
> EU countries, but generally true globally). This means that most
> in� to accepting Google�s 3rd party cookies as they would have
> visited Google �in person�. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?) Many
> thanks.
>
I'm in the U.S. and have set my home page to a blank page. However,
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?) Many
> thanks.
>
about:home does bring up a page with the orange Firefox logo globe in
the middle with a search box immediately below it. On the left side of
the search box is written "Google" with the letters each in a different
color. At the same time, the address window contents changed to the
text,"Go to a website" which is the same text I see on my blank "home page".
Ron Hunter
Feb 25, 2013, 3:14:54 PM2/25/13
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On 2/25/2013 2:11 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 2/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>> This blog: http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies claims
>> today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home page on
>> a new install.
>>
>> Can anyone verify or refute this? My understanding, is that Firefox
>> does no such thing.
>>
>> The author writes: "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default
>> Home Page for most users (I believe this is different in a couple of
>> EU countries, but generally true globally). This means that most
> On 2/25/2013 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
>> This blog: http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies claims
>> today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home page on
>> a new install.
>>
>> Can anyone verify or refute this? My understanding, is that Firefox
>> does no such thing.
>>
>> The author writes: "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default
>> Home Page for most users (I believe this is different in a couple of
>> EU countries, but generally true globally). This means that most
>> users the first time they open Firefox will be automatically “opted
>> in” to accepting Google’s 3rd party cookies as they would have
>> visited Google “in person”. "
>>
>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?) Many
>> thanks.
>>
>
> I'm in the U.S. and have set my home page to a blank page. However,
> about:home does bring up a page with the orange Firefox logo globe in
> the middle with a search box immediately below it. On the left side of
> the search box is written "Google" with the letters each in a different
> color. At the same time, the address window contents changed to the
> text,"Go to a website" which is the same text I see on my blank "home
> page".
From what I have heard/read, using that just means Mozilla, AND Google
>> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?) Many
>> thanks.
>>
>
> I'm in the U.S. and have set my home page to a blank page. However,
> about:home does bring up a page with the orange Firefox logo globe in
> the middle with a search box immediately below it. On the left side of
> the search box is written "Google" with the letters each in a different
> color. At the same time, the address window contents changed to the
> text,"Go to a website" which is the same text I see on my blank "home
> page".
get to collect your searches, instead of only Google. Sigh. If that
matters to you.
»Q«
Feb 25, 2013, 4:15:04 PM2/25/13
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:43:12 +0000
Robert M Jones <xyz123...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
Robert M Jones <xyz123...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
I'm in the U.S.A., using Firefox 19.
> Many thanks.
In most of the world, the default home page for Firefox *was* on the
Google site, but that changed several versions ago.
Now it's a local page, installed along with the browser. You can see
yours by pasting this into the navigation box:
chrome://browser/content/abouthome/aboutHome.xhtml
Mine does have a Google search box, but it's clearly labeled, and I
don't get any network connections (hence, no cookies) at all just from
loading the home page.
Chris Ilias
Feb 25, 2013, 9:22:21 PM2/25/13
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On 2013-02-25 10:43 AM, Robert M Jones wrote:
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> open Firefox will be automatically �opted in� to accepting Google�s 3rd
> This blog:
> http://www.alexanderhanff.com/firefox-vs-cookies
> claims today in an open letter, that Firefox sets Google as the home
> page on a new install.
>
> Can anyone verify or refute this?
> My understanding, is that Firefox does no such thing.
>
> The author writes:
> "last I checked Firefox sets Google as the default Home Page for most
> users (I believe this is different in a couple of EU countries, but
> generally true globally). This means that most users the first time they
> party cookies as they would have visited Google �in person�. "
>
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
The default home is about:home. and has been that for 2 years. Before
> Can anyone comment please? (particularly from outside EU?)
> Many thanks.
that, it was http://www.google.com/firefox
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Jay Garcia
Feb 26, 2013, 10:08:54 AM2/26/13
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On 25.02.2013 15:15, »Q« wrote:
FF 19 -- doing about:home here brings up a page with a FF logo in the
middle with a Google search box under it. Not a Mozilla start page.
However, this may be a holdover from earlier versions because I usually
install OVER the previous version, not uninstall first.
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middle with a Google search box under it. Not a Mozilla start page.
However, this may be a holdover from earlier versions because I usually
install OVER the previous version, not uninstall first.
--
Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird
Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/
Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org
Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/
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