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Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 9:20:49 AM6/14/13
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How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 9:22:11 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 9:20 PM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
> How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
>
Or is this actually a bug of Firefox 21.0 with Java Runtime?
>
> How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
>
WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 9:35:48 AM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 09:20 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
> How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
>
Install the JRE: (Java Runtime Environment).
>
> How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
>
Covers most end-users needs. Contains everything required to run Java
applications on your system.
<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html>
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 9:42:23 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 9:35 PM, WaltS wrote:
> Covers most end-users needs. Contains everything required to run Java
> applications on your system.
>
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html>
How could I prevent the Java Deployment Kit (add-on?) from being
> Covers most end-users needs. Contains everything required to run Java
> applications on your system.
>
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html>
installed into Firefox 21?
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WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 9:48:01 AM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 09:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 9:35 PM, WaltS wrote:
>> Covers most end-users needs. Contains everything required to run Java
>> applications on your system.
>>
>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html>
>
> How could I prevent the Java Deployment Kit (add-on?) from being
> installed into Firefox 21?
>
I did not know there was a JDK add-on. The JDK installs the JRE plugin
> On 14/06/2013 9:35 PM, WaltS wrote:
>> Covers most end-users needs. Contains everything required to run Java
>> applications on your system.
>>
>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html>
>
> How could I prevent the Java Deployment Kit (add-on?) from being
> installed into Firefox 21?
>
into Firefox.
To prevent the installtion, don't install any Java application.
If you need Java, but don't want it in Firefox, just disable the
plug-in. That is what I do.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 10:09:20 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 9:48 PM, WaltS wrote:
> I did not know there was a JDK add-on. The JDK installs the JRE plugin
> into Firefox.
Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
> I did not know there was a JDK add-on. The JDK installs the JRE plugin
> into Firefox.
the JDK Firefox add-on?
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 10:11:48 AM6/14/13
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I opened the jre-7u21-windows-i586.exe using 7-zip, and found the JDK in
\core.zip\bin\dtplugin\
npdeployJava1.dll
deployJava1.dll
Maybe I could just delete them before running the executable... :)
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WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 10:24:52 AM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 10:09 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 9:48 PM, WaltS wrote:
>> I did not know there was a JDK add-on. The JDK installs the JRE plugin
>> into Firefox.
>
> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>
Not that I am aware of.
> On 14/06/2013 9:48 PM, WaltS wrote:
>> I did not know there was a JDK add-on. The JDK installs the JRE plugin
>> into Firefox.
>
> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 10:29:33 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 10:24 PM, WaltS wrote:
>> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
>> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>
> Not that I am aware of.
>
Now if someone could tell me whether this JDK add-on is a Firefox bug, a
>> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
>> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>
> Not that I am aware of.
>
Yahoo problem, or an attempt by Oracle to deface Firefox..... :)
WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 10:39:16 AM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 10:29 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 10:24 PM, WaltS wrote:
>>> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
>>> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>>
>> Not that I am aware of.
>>
>
> Now if someone could tell me whether this JDK add-on is a Firefox bug, a
> Yahoo problem, or an attempt by Oracle to deface Firefox..... :)
>
Could you post a link to a screen shot of what you are talking about?
> On 14/06/2013 10:24 PM, WaltS wrote:
>>> Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
>>> the JDK Firefox add-on?
>>
>> Not that I am aware of.
>>
>
> Now if someone could tell me whether this JDK add-on is a Firefox bug, a
> Yahoo problem, or an attempt by Oracle to deface Firefox..... :)
>
Peter Boulding
Jun 14, 2013, 10:41:25 AM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 21:20:49 +0800, Man-wai Chang <toylet...@gmail.com>
wrote in <duWdnSHVLaEthSbM...@mozilla.org>:
>How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
[using FF20]
I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section of the
add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it stays disabled.
I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF toolbars--courtesy of
the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this just toggles the Java platform
plugin's enable/disable function; the deployment kit stays disabled.
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wrote in <duWdnSHVLaEthSbM...@mozilla.org>:
>How could I install Java Runtime 7u21 without the Deployment Kit?
I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section of the
add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it stays disabled.
I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF toolbars--courtesy of
the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this just toggles the Java platform
plugin's enable/disable function; the deployment kit stays disabled.
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 10:41:50 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 10:39 PM, WaltS wrote:
>
> Could you post a link to a screen shot of what you are talking about?
>
Just try attaching a file bigger than 120K .... The upload process would
>
> Could you post a link to a screen shot of what you are talking about?
>
stop at about 120K and then Yahoo Mail stopped responding...
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 10:46:51 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 10:41 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:
> I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section of the
> add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it stays disabled.
>
> I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF toolbars--courtesy of
> the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this just toggles the Java platform
> plugin's enable/disable function; the deployment kit stays disabled.
Google did find me a result teaching me to just delete all copies of
> I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section of the
> add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it stays disabled.
>
> I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF toolbars--courtesy of
> the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this just toggles the Java platform
> plugin's enable/disable function; the deployment kit stays disabled.
npdeployJava1.dll after Java Runtime installation.
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WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 11:02:53 AM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 10:41 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 10:39 PM, WaltS wrote:
>>
>> Could you post a link to a screen shot of what you are talking about?
>>
>
> Just try attaching a file bigger than 120K .... The upload process would
> stop at about 120K and then Yahoo Mail stopped responding...
>
A link to screen shot was 120K?
> On 14/06/2013 10:39 PM, WaltS wrote:
>>
>> Could you post a link to a screen shot of what you are talking about?
>>
>
> Just try attaching a file bigger than 120K .... The upload process would
> stop at about 120K and then Yahoo Mail stopped responding...
>
Anyway I hope Peter answered your question. I've never seen a JDK add-on.
If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 11:32:48 AM6/14/13
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On 14/06/2013 11:02 PM, WaltS wrote:
> If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
> Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
> IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
>
Some online games require the Java Runtime (not the JDK though).
> If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
> Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
> IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
>
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 12:11:56 PM6/14/13
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I just found that there was an instance of Firefox 21 in the Task
Manager that could NOT be closed by Task Manager. SO whatever I did in
the add-on screen might not be related at all. I needed to sign out of
Win 8 in order to kill that instance.
Starting Firefox 21 in safe mode definitely solved the upload problem.
Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
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Manager that could NOT be closed by Task Manager. SO whatever I did in
the add-on screen might not be related at all. I needed to sign out of
Win 8 in order to kill that instance.
Starting Firefox 21 in safe mode definitely solved the upload problem.
Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 14, 2013, 12:20:47 PM6/14/13
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> Starting Firefox 21 in safe mode definitely solved the upload problem.
> Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
>
Rolling back to Firefox 20.0.1, same upload problem.
> Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
>
Mark Lloyd
Jun 14, 2013, 1:09:27 PM6/14/13
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On 06/14/2013 10:02 AM, WaltS wrote:
> On 06/14/2013 10:41 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
[snip]
> On 06/14/2013 10:41 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> Anyway I hope Peter answered your question. I've never seen a JDK add-on.
>
> If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
> Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
> IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
>
for a web page. I didn't even install IcedTea.
EndUser
Jun 14, 2013, 2:53:14 PM6/14/13
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote...
»Q«
Jun 14, 2013, 4:13:22 PM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 22:46:51 +0800
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 10:41 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:
> > I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section
> > of the add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it
> > stays disabled.
> >
> > I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF
> > toolbars--courtesy of the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this
> > just toggles the Java platform plugin's enable/disable function;
> > the deployment kit stays disabled.
>
> Google did find me a result teaching me to just delete all copies of
> npdeployJava1.dll after Java Runtime installation.
If you do it that way, you'll need to do it again every time you update
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14/06/2013 10:41 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:
> > I don't know how to do that, but if you go to the plugins section
> > of the add-ons page you can disable the deployment kit--and it
> > stays disabled.
> >
> > I have an enable/disable Java button in one of my FF
> > toolbars--courtesy of the Toolbar Buttons 1.0 extension--and this
> > just toggles the Java platform plugin's enable/disable function;
> > the deployment kit stays disabled.
>
> Google did find me a result teaching me to just delete all copies of
> npdeployJava1.dll after Java Runtime installation.
JRE.
Your Subject mentions attachments to Yahoo mail, but your post didn't
say anything about it. What were you trying to solve by disabling the
Java Deployment Toolkit, and did it help?
»Q«
Jun 14, 2013, 4:17:03 PM6/14/13
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:02:53 -0400
WaltS <wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyway I hope Peter answered your question. I've never seen a JDK
> add-on.
>
> If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
> Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
> IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
JDK == Java Development Kit != Java Deployment Toolkit
WaltS <wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyway I hope Peter answered your question. I've never seen a JDK
> add-on.
>
> If you are not writing Java applications, you don't need the Java
> Development Kit, and I used the JRE in the past. Now I use the
> IcedTea-Web Plugin for Linux, and keep it disabled.
The OP was talking about the Java Deployment Toolkit, which JRE
installs as a Firefox plugin, at least for Windows users.
WaltS
Jun 14, 2013, 8:51:26 PM6/14/13
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Deployment Toolkit. All I remember seeing was JDK, which led me down the
wrong path.
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 15, 2013, 7:55:06 AM6/15/13
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On 15/06/2013 12:20 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> Starting Firefox 21 in safe mode definitely solved the upload problem.
>> Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
>>
>
> Rolling back to Firefox 20.0.1, same upload problem.
>
Same problem with 19...
>> Starting Firefox 21 in safe mode definitely solved the upload problem.
>> Disabling all add-ons is not the same as Safe Mode!
>>
>
> Rolling back to Firefox 20.0.1, same upload problem.
>
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jun 15, 2013, 7:55:35 AM6/15/13
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Thanks!
On 15/06/2013 2:53 AM, EndUser wrote:
> 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
>
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com
>
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com
> > Is there a Java Runtime that explicitly indicate that it doesn't have
> > the JDK Firefox add-on?
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