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Frank Leskova

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:06:59 AM8/26/06
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Hello,

I was wondering if there is any way to completely deactivate the tabbed
browsing - I think it's one of the most impractical things I've ever seen in
a browser!

Is there some way to turn it off completely and have Firefox open a new
window whenever it would now open a new tab?

Thanks in advance for any help!!!

Regards,
Frank


Robert M Jones

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:10:48 AM8/26/06
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check out tools - options for tabbed browsing options.
Why do you think its impractical?

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kes

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:15:25 AM8/26/06
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I use the Tab Mix plus extension (for an enhanced tabbing experience.)

In there the is an option 'open new window from...'. This forces a new
window.

You could always go back to IE6 :-) What I am saying is the rest of
the world begs to disagree with your assessment, including MS.


Nir

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:18:34 AM8/26/06
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Robert M Jones wrote:
> Frank Leskova wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering if there is any way to completely deactivate the
>> tabbed browsing - I think it's one of the most impractical things I've
>> ever seen in a browser!
>>
>> Is there some way to turn it off completely and have Firefox open a
>> new window whenever it would now open a new tab?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help!!!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>
> check out tools - options for tabbed browsing options.

..and whenever you need to open any link in new tab,
Ctrl+Shift+Left-click -Open in Foreground Tab
Ctrl+Left-click - Open in Background Tab


> Why do you think its impractical?
>

But again asking the same question : Why do you
think tab-browsing impractical?

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:33:06 AM8/26/06
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I dont use tabs

to disable them (mostly) use the controls in Firefox
[Firefox-->Preferences]*-->Tabs


Open links from other application in
0 A new window

OR

0 the most recent tab/window

X Force links that open new windows to open in:
0 the same tab/window as the link

X Hide the tab bar when only one web site is open

_ Select new tabs opened feom links (UNCHECKED)

X Warn when closing multiple tabs **


*varies by OS
Windows
[Tools-->Options]
Linux
[Edit-->Prefereneces]
Mac as above


** why? because now you will notice if a tab has been opened and can
figure out why.

NB X means a checkmark in the box
0 means a selected radio button
_ means a blank checkmark in the box

Christopher Jahn

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Aug 26, 2006, 8:50:11 AM8/26/06
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Nir <nir...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:dr2dnWC-JdKLoW3Z...@mozilla.org:

I'm sure there were monkeys screaming about the impracticality of
leaving the trees and walking fully erect, too.

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Ron Hunter

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:13:50 AM8/26/06
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Frank,
New tabs, by default, are never opened. Unless you set them up, you
can ignore them. You can set the options to get new windows in any case
where you see a new tab.

That said, you are missing a very powerful, and useful feature by
ignoring tabs. It took me a few months to get around to using them
myself, but wouldn't want to be without them now.

Ron Hunter

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:16:03 AM8/26/06
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Some old dogs can't learn new tricks because they don't WANT to learn
new tricks. Grin.

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 26, 2006, 9:47:00 AM8/26/06
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Hey, he asked how to disable it. I told him. I also stated I dont use
tabs, a simple statement of fact.

Old tricks, new tricks, dont matter. I simply dont use tabs, or RCC -
they are features of the program that I MIGHT get 'into' if I have the time.

Herb

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Aug 26, 2006, 11:01:47 AM8/26/06
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On 26.08.2006 14:47 UK Time, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

>
> Old tricks, new tricks, dont matter. I simply dont use tabs, or RCC -
> they are features of the program that I MIGHT get 'into' if I have the
> time.

What's RCC?

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Ron Hunter

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Aug 26, 2006, 11:21:11 AM8/26/06
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>Like I said, it took me a while to make friends with tabs. As for
RCC, I tried it and found little to recommend it for my purposes.
I can see how a real news junkie would like it, but I do other things on
the web. I don't use tabs all the time, just for a few special
purposes. Seems we all have our favorite tools in the box, depending on
your needs, and our ways of working. I try not to completely ignore any
new tool, at least until I have tried it out a bit. I guess years of
programming taught me that few people use all the tools in their box,
even if it would make their life easier.

Miles

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Aug 26, 2006, 1:45:10 PM8/26/06
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Ron Hunter wrote:
> Frank Leskova wrote:

>>
> Frank,
> New tabs, by default, are never opened. Unless you set them up, you
> can ignore them. You can set the options to get new windows in any case
> where you see a new tab.
>
> That said, you are missing a very powerful, and useful feature by
> ignoring tabs. It took me a few months to get around to using them
> myself, but wouldn't want to be without them now.

I agree 100% and that's why I use Multizilla in SeaMonkey which improves
on SM's tab tricks.
Miles

squaredancer

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Aug 26, 2006, 5:53:42 PM8/26/06
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On 26.08.2006 02:50 pm, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Christopher
Jahn to generate the following:? :

>Nir <nir...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:dr2dnWC-JdKLoW3Z...@mozilla.org:
>
>
>
>>Robert M Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Frank Leskova wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I was wondering if there is any way to completely deactivate
>>>>the tabbed browsing - I think it's one of the most
>>>>impractical things I've ever seen in a browser!
>>>>
>>>>Is there some way to turn it off completely and have Firefox
>>>>open a new window whenever it would now open a new tab?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for any help!!!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>check out tools - options for tabbed browsing options.
>>>
>>>
>>..and whenever you need to open any link in new tab,
>> Ctrl+Shift+Left-click -Open in Foreground Tab
>> Ctrl+Left-click - Open in Background Tab
>>
>>
>>>Why do you think its impractical?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>But again asking the same question : Why do you
>>think tab-browsing impractical?
>>
>>
>
>I'm sure there were monkeys screaming about the impracticality of
>leaving the trees and walking fully erect, too.
>
>
>

I did, Christopher.... *AND* I wrote to the Jungle Times....

reg

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 27, 2006, 12:22:16 AM8/27/06
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Herb wrote:
> On 26.08.2006 14:47 UK Time, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
>
>>
>> Old tricks, new tricks, dont matter. I simply dont use tabs, or RCC -
>> they are features of the program that I MIGHT get 'into' if I have the
>> time.
>
> What's RCC?
>

Sorry meant RSS feeds and the like, see... I dont even notice when I
mistype the name! <g>

Frank Leskova

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Aug 27, 2006, 3:39:50 AM8/27/06
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Moz Champion (Dan), and Ron Hunter, thank you for the two useful and
friendly responses I've received. As for the others that have replied...
no... I guess I won't post what I think of your comments...

I checked the settings you mentioned, and they are identical to the ones I
already had made - unfortunately, I still get new tabs opened whenever a
website opens a new window - that's something I'd like to get rid of as
well, but I guess I could learn to at least accept that... though I doubt
I'll ever get to the point where I like it.

As for why I don't like tabbed browsing - I don't see the point in tabs!
They, to me, add nothing in terms of increased usability, they don't allow
me to switch between browser windows any faster than Alt+Tab would... and I
simply prefer switching between different browser windows with Alt+Tab just
as I do when switching from a browser window to one of the other
applications open at the same time.

Maybe I am just an "old monkey" that doesn't want to learn "new tricks",
though I know that that's an opinion that could only come from someone who
doesn't know me and, thus, doesn't have a clue what he's talking about - but
consider, just for a moment, that I could also be someone who subscribes to
that almost antique way of thinking that the usability of an application
should adjust to what the user prefers, not the other way around...

Regards,
Frank

"Moz Champion (Dan)" <moz.ch...@sympatico.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:tMednbp6zYZIzW3Z...@mozilla.org...

David McRitchie

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Aug 27, 2006, 4:39:16 AM8/27/06
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"Frank Leskova" <fr...@leskova.de> wrote in message news:IK-

> As for why I don't like tabbed browsing - I don't see the point in tabs!
> They, to me, add nothing in terms of increased usability, they don't allow
> me to switch between browser windows any faster than Alt+Tab would... and I
>
Hi Frank,
If you were on a dial-up line and wanted to open 18 blogs
or other websites at once because of slow speed line, I think
you would have been onto tabs immediately. Even with tabs
you can open another window if you want to do some comparisons
or look at two windows at once.

Anyway here is what you are looking for, you can always disable
it later on your Tools, Extensions, right-click on the specific extension,
to try tabs from time to time, then reenable using the same sequence
as above. (It's one of the extensions that won't be on my webpage)

Tab Killer 1.0.2005012901, by SHIMODA Hiroshi, released on Jan 24, 2006

Disables tabbed browsing features of Firefox completely.

Some people want to keep their browsing-style based on SDI applications like Netscape Navigator 4, so, this will help them. This
provides an alternative to some people, who want to use Gecko based browser and don't want to use tabbed browsing feature.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1938/

---
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http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm


Ron Hunter

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Aug 27, 2006, 5:16:47 AM8/27/06
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It is easy to choose a tab and click, if more than two are open, and
they can be closed without having to switch to one first. They (tabs)
require less system overhead, and make for a neater screen presentation.
Still, if you don't want to use them, they shouldn't intrude. Do you
have any extensions running relative to tabs which might make them
appear when you don't want to use them? Check your options dialogs and
make sure nothing is set to open in tabs.

Bradley

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Aug 27, 2006, 6:40:14 AM8/27/06
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Funny, tabs are how Firffox/mozilla differentiated itself from IE and
mostly why it's become so popular that IE7 now has them. I've been
screaming for tabs since the old Netscape days. To hear some folks
don't like tabs is a bit mind-boggling, but to each his own.

A guy that works for me is an old programmer type guy and at every
opportunity he avoids menus and uses keyboard short-cuts. I've watched
him work, and it takes him twice as long to navigate because he won't
use icon menus. He /does/ love tabs, though.

-b

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 27, 2006, 6:43:11 AM8/27/06
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I never said I dont like them, I simply said I dont use them.

Jay Garcia

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Aug 27, 2006, 9:56:49 AM8/27/06
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On 27.08.2006 05:40, Bradley wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> A guy that works for me is an old programmer type guy and at every
> opportunity he avoids menus and uses keyboard short-cuts. I've watched
> him work, and it takes him twice as long to navigate because he won't
> use icon menus. He /does/ love tabs, though.
>
> -b

He uses tabs when nobody is looking ..... 8-)

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Herb

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Aug 27, 2006, 10:33:04 AM8/27/06
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I only just started using RSS in Thunderbird and I find it very useful
(and I prefer it over RSS in Firefox).

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Ron Hunter

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Aug 27, 2006, 9:07:18 PM8/27/06
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Just want to do things the hard way? Like standing up in the hammock?
Grin.

Snorkelson MacBurp

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Aug 27, 2006, 10:50:49 PM8/27/06
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Frank Leskova said the following on 26/08/06 08:06:

You are not normal.

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Penguiniator

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Aug 27, 2006, 11:10:41 PM8/27/06
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Frank Leskova wrote:

Someone here said you are just not normal. Be that as it may, try
this:

type about:config into the address bar and in the filter box type
browser.tabs and set the following:
browser.tabs.forceHide true
browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick false
browser.tabs.opentabfor.urlbar false

That may give you the behavior you are seeking. There may be
others that need setting to absolutely never have the
possibility of opening a dreaded tab, I'm not sure.
--
regards

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 28, 2006, 1:14:37 AM8/28/06
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I dont see what doing it my way (without tabs) is 'harder'. I click on a
link, it comes up, whats so hard about that? I want to go back I use the
back button. I dont think thats too hard. I can also use History, or
bookmark a page if I think I might want to go back to it, neither of
which is 'hard to do'.

You want to use tabs, be my guest. I dont. I dont question your use of
them, so why comment on my non-use of them?

Herb

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Aug 28, 2006, 3:30:04 AM8/28/06
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On 28.08.2006 06:14 UK Time, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

> I dont see what doing it my way (without tabs) is 'harder'. I click on a
> link, it comes up, whats so hard about that? I want to go back I use the
> back button. I dont think thats too hard. I can also use History, or
> bookmark a page if I think I might want to go back to it, neither of
> which is 'hard to do'.

Hi Dan,

browsing without tabs isn't hard, but it sure clutters up your taskbar.

I hate taskbar clutter, which is one of the reasons I like tabbed browsing.

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

Ron Hunter

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Aug 28, 2006, 3:40:29 AM8/28/06
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Well, you can drive screws with a hammer, too. Have you really read all
my messages about what you can do with tabs? If so, have you tried any
of those suggestions? Don't use them, if you choose to do without that
tool.
Just trying to point out how your experience could be improved.

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 28, 2006, 5:14:59 AM8/28/06
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Hmmm, okay, for you windows types, yep I can see that.
Macs dont have that problem even with the "Dock" system in OS X

I usually ignored the task bar when on Windows anyway.

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 28, 2006, 5:20:47 AM8/28/06
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None of the suggestions about what you can do with tabs strike me as
terribly 'oh I WANT that'. Useful perhaps, but not for me.

I dont use tabs, none of the features and things you can do with tabs
are things I need or want. For others, sure, go right ahead, their
experience may be enhanced, but for me I havent found tabs to be useful
for my methods of doing things. However I dont tell people NOT to use
em, I dont steer people away from them, I simply dont use them myself.

le...@lwb.org

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Aug 28, 2006, 11:53:40 AM8/28/06
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Frank,

Thanks for starting this thread. I was wondering myself how to disable
it. I would use tabs, except I cant train myself to hit the tab "x" to
close instead of the application "x" so I usually lose ALL tabs. Sure,
Firefox warns me, but that irritated me, so I turned that off, so now
when I accidentally hit the app-close "X" (which is every time) they
all close. :) Oh well.

Now if I could make the application "X" close only turn the current tab
off, that would be sweet.

Lewis

Ed Mullen

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Aug 28, 2006, 12:40:56 PM8/28/06
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A middle-click on the tab will close it. Or right-click and choose
Close Tab.

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