Firefox for big companies
Lucas
Currently Mozilla is not doing anything in that direction.
First of all, I read on some blogs, that distributing Firefox in big
companies with a central software distribution is a 'nightmare'.
I only can confirm that big companies use certain software to
distribute and configure other software. But, I don't know why
Firefox is a problem.
This needs to be fixed first.
Then, make a page dedicated for big companies. They have other
motivations than individual users.
For instance, the following message:
- Microsoft has 3 incompatible browsers, IE6, IE7 and IE8.
- IE8 is even two incompatible browsers in one.
- Firefox has a consistent policy of following standards.
- An application developed for Firefox 1.0 would run without
problems in 3.5.
Just some suggestions. There is a clear move in the direction
of standards and now it is time to target the big companies!!!
Lucas
Carsten Book
not sure if you know, but if you want to customize Firefox there is
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Deployment:Deploying_Firefox#Firefox_Customization_.28CCK_and_Repackaging_Tools.29
and also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2553
- Tomcat
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chris hofmann
> I want to do a suggestion for marketing Firefox for big companies.
> Currently Mozilla is not doing anything in that direction.
>
> First of all, I read on some blogs, that distributing Firefox in big
> companies with a central software distribution is a 'nightmare'.
>
Hi Lucas,
Can you provide a set of links? It would be interesting reading for
many to understand more details about the problems. My experience is
that when IT departments find deployment blockers, those bugs frequently
affect all users.
> I only can confirm that big companies use certain software to
> distribute and configure other software. But, I don't know why
> Firefox is a problem.
>
>
Yes, in many discussions we have found a variety of deployment tools in
use. IT departments can and have deployed Firefox using many of these
tools, but it would be hard for anyone to build a single tool that
worked for everyone.
In fact an April 2009 Forester Study Finds Firefox Adoption grew 1.3% to
18.2% in the second half of 2008. That's just 2% less that
NetApplications reported for general Firefox adoption in the overall
browser market, so independent data says that Firefox is actually doing
pretty well in the Enterprise.
I'm in Brazil and will be talking to some folks at Banco do Brasil that
have just completed deployment of 100,000 seats of Firefox across all
offices in South America and they made a few press announcements about it
http://www.baguete.com.br/noticiasDetalhes.php?id=3507767
http://www.convergenciadigital.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=19119&sid=10
A lot has to do with the motivation of the IT department. If they are
motivated to deploy Firefox there certainly are ways to get it done.
> This needs to be fixed first.
>
> Then, make a page dedicated for big companies. They have other
> motivations than individual users.
>
>
There is some stuff started here
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Deployment:Deploying_Firefox
and there has been some discussion and attempts to get a community of
people from large organization IT departments to work together to come
up with common solutions that might help deployment. There has been
some interest but nothing sustained. Any thing that you could help on
in this area would be great.
> For instance, the following message:
> - Microsoft has 3 incompatible browsers, IE6, IE7 and IE8.
> - IE8 is even two incompatible browsers in one.
> - Firefox has a consistent policy of following standards.
> - An application developed for Firefox 1.0 would run without
> problems in 3.5.
>
Yeah. This cnet article is pretty good with the quote "many
organizations are still giving their information workers the equvilent
of a yugo."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10231713-2.html
;-)
-chofmann
> Just some suggestions. There is a clear move in the direction
> of standards and now it is time to target the big companies!!!
>
> Lucas
Pierre-André Aubert
Just a mistake, of course to be share with everyone of the marketing
list! :)
Cheers,
Pierre-Andr�
chris hofmann wrote:
>
> Lucas wrote:
>> I want to do a suggestion for marketing Firefox for big companies.
>> Currently Mozilla is not doing anything in that direction.
>>
>> First of all, I read on some blogs, that distributing Firefox in big
>> companies with a central software distribution is a 'nightmare'.
>>
>
> Hi Lucas,
>
> Can you provide a set of links? It would be interesting reading for
> many to understand more details about the problems. My experience is
> that when IT departments find deployment blockers, those bugs
> frequently affect all users.
>> I only can confirm that big companies use certain software to
>> distribute and configure other software. But, I don't know why
>> Firefox is a problem.
>>
>>
> Yes, in many discussions we have found a variety of deployment tools
> in use. IT departments can and have deployed Firefox using many of
> these tools, but it would be hard for anyone to build a single tool
> that worked for everyone.
>
> In fact an April 2009 Forester Study Finds Firefox Adoption grew 1.3%
> to 18.2% in the second half of 2008. That's just 2% less that
> NetApplications reported for general Firefox adoption in the overall
> browser market, so independent data says that Firefox is actually
> doing pretty well in the Enterprise.
>
> I'm in Brazil and will be talking to some folks at Banco do Brasil
> that have just completed deployment of 100,000 seats of Firefox across
> all offices in South America and they made a few press announcements
> about it
>
> http://www.baguete.com.br/noticiasDetalhes.php?id=3507767
> http://www.convergenciadigital.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=19119&sid=10
>
>
> A lot has to do with the motivation of the IT department. If they are
> motivated to deploy Firefox there certainly are ways to get it done.
>
>> This needs to be fixed first.
>>
>> Then, make a page dedicated for big companies. They have other
>> motivations than individual users.
>>
>>
> There is some stuff started here
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Deployment:Deploying_Firefox
>
> and there has been some discussion and attempts to get a community of
> people from large organization IT departments to work together to come
> up with common solutions that might help deployment. There has been
> some interest but nothing sustained. Any thing that you could help
> on in this area would be great.
>
>
>> For instance, the following message:
>> - Microsoft has 3 incompatible browsers, IE6, IE7 and IE8.
>> - IE8 is even two incompatible browsers in one.
>> - Firefox has a consistent policy of following standards.
>> - An application developed for Firefox 1.0 would run without
>> problems in 3.5.
>>
>
> Yeah. This cnet article is pretty good with the quote "many
> organizations are still giving their information workers the equvilent
> of a yugo."
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10231713-2.html
>
> ;-)
>
> -chofmann
>
>> Just some suggestions. There is a clear move in the direction
>> of standards and now it is time to target the big companies!!!
>>
>> Lucas