On 4/6/12 2:39 AM, Mitchell Baker wrote:
> I'm not done, but want to get this piece out there. i want to talk toIsn't that already covered by the manifesto ? Are we really thinking
> Deb about conflicts but she's on vacation today. So I'm posting this
> rewritten version, even though it doesn't have the conflict and
> resolutions sessions fleshed out. i've gotten as far as raising issues.
> But I suspect there is a lot about what happens after that that
> interacts with employment law, and i want to learn something about that
> apologies for the poor formatting. I haven't had time to think about a
> Code of Conduct
> The Mozilla Code of Conduct describes the type of community we are
that people need a law to be polite ?
> -- the Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy which sets outHow does that scale on the web ? The web is global , which code of law
> protections and obligations of employees, and is crafted with specific
> jurisdictional legal definitions and requirements in mind.
> -- Mozilla groups for escalation and dispute resolution.
applies and how do we decide which one we follow ? Some things will make
sense in countries yy and zz but will not at all in tt and hh.
> This Code of Conduct covers our behaviour as members of the MozillaPrivate correspondence ? How can then that correspondence be labelled
> Community, in forum, mailing list, wiki, web site, IRC channel, bug,
> event, public meeting or private correspondence.
private ? I come from a culture where you'll say plenty of bad things in
private , and then be done with it. If I can't let my feeling go away by
expressing them when I have them I'll certainly feel like I'm not part
of the "community" and will leave.
> Inclusiveness and DiversityI'd like to be way more open. I don't like the list at all. We shouldn't
> Mozilla is an inclusive organization. We welcome and support diversity,
> Mozilla-based activities should be inclusive and should support
try to pinpoint who (ie listing things that define humans on the way
they act) , and put more focus on how people should interact with one
> First, if you are comfortable having a direct talk with the otherHow does a new comer do that ? How do they find a trusted person. How
> person, this is a good way to start.
> If you're not comfortable having a direct conversation, identify one or
> more people you trust. It will be helpful to identify whether the
> conflict is because someone is flaming, or behaving in a troll like
> manner or just won't listen? Or is it because the person has touched on
> a personal or identity issue?
will they trust.
That being said I really think that the Manifesto covers all this
if we can't trust people for what they say or think or the way they
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