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Newsgroups: mozilla.governance
From: Ludovic Hirlimann <Ludo...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:58:29 +0200
Local: Fri, Apr 6 2012 6:58 am
Subject: Re: proposal, take 2
On 4/6/12 2:39 AM, Mitchell Baker wrote:
> I'm not done, but want to get this piece out there. i want to talk to
Isn't that already covered by the manifesto ? Are we really thinking > Deb about conflicts but she's on vacation today. So I'm posting this > rewritten version, even though it doesn't have the conflict and > resolutions sessions fleshed out. i've gotten as far as raising issues. > But I suspect there is a lot about what happens after that that > interacts with employment law, and i want to learn something about that > first. > apologies for the poor formatting. I haven't had time to think about a
> Code of Conduct
> The Mozilla Code of Conduct describes the type of community we are
that people need a law to be polite ? > -- the Anti-Harassment/Discrimination Policy which sets out
How does that scale on the web ? The web is global , which code of law > protections and obligations of employees, and is crafted with specific > jurisdictional legal definitions and requirements in mind. > -- Mozilla groups for escalation and dispute resolution. applies and how do we decide which one we follow ? Some things will make sense in countries yy and zz but will not at all in tt and hh. > This Code of Conduct covers our behaviour as members of the Mozilla
Private correspondence ? How can then that correspondence be labelled > Community, in forum, mailing list, wiki, web site, IRC channel, bug, > event, public meeting or private correspondence. private ? I come from a culture where you'll say plenty of bad things in private , and then be done with it. If I can't let my feeling go away by expressing them when I have them I'll certainly feel like I'm not part of the "community" and will leave. > Inclusiveness and Diversity
I'd like to be way more open. I don't like the list at all. We shouldn't > Mozilla is an inclusive organization. We welcome and support diversity,
> Mozilla-based activities should be inclusive and should support
try to pinpoint who (ie listing things that define humans on the way they act) , and put more focus on how people should interact with one another. > First, if you are comfortable having a direct talk with the other
How does a new comer do that ? How do they find a trusted person. How > person, this is a good way to start. > If you're not comfortable having a direct conversation, identify one or > more people you trust. It will be helpful to identify whether the > conflict is because someone is flaming, or behaving in a troll like > manner or just won't listen? Or is it because the person has touched on > a personal or identity issue? will they trust. That being said I really think that the Manifesto covers all this if we can't trust people for what they say or think or the way they Ludo
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