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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:03:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Scope of "Mozilla" and Planet Mozilla
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On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM, <n.netherc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:37:15 PM UTC-8, Tim Chevalier wrote:
> > Pragmatically, though, I think
> > that making planet.mozilla.org focused on Mozilla-related content is
> > the right answer, and sets clear expectations for everyone.
>
> That's a common viewpoint, it seems.  It's not quite clear to me what it
> means.
>
> Imagine that today we all agree that Planet should be for Mozilla-related
> content only.  What happens if I violate that?  How is the rule enforced?
>
> What happens if I post something horrible but Mozilla-related, e.g. if I
> say something discriminatory about several Mozilla contributors.  I won't
> have violated the new rule, but damage will be done, just as it was done
> earlier this week.
>
> If our goal is to prevent this week's actions happening again, it seems to
> me that the policy should not be "no non-Mozilla content on Planet" but
> rather "no horrible (discriminatory, etc) content on Planet".  And without
> some kind of pre-moderation of posts (which seems impractical) it's always
> possible that someone will violate that policy.  So there need to be clear
> rules on how violations are dealt with -- who decides whether a post
> represents a violation, and what the follow-up action is.
>
> Nick
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If it's about the contributors and not their work then I think it's very
easy to define that as personal and not mozilla related. The problem here
is that if there is a policy people can be politely told that they violated
it and then have the content pulled. Mistakes happen, people get upset, I
don't think anyone has been intentionally malicious. In this case, gerv's
post didn't violate the current policy so rather than being able to just
take it down and remind him of the policy there has to be a huge
discussion. If someone does something overt to upset or offend another
member of the community then it is also very easy to pull their feed.