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Baptiste DENAEYER  
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 More options Sep 24 2012, 9:24 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.governance
From: Baptiste DENAEYER <b.denae...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:24:38 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2012 9:24 am
Subject: Internet Governance and Mozilla
Hi everyone,

This email follow-up the "ACTA + Latinamerican countries + Mozilla" message
on reps-mentors mailing list.

More and more people inside Mozilla seems concerned about Internet policy
that State over the world try to regulate in there own way. Often those
ways are not compatible with the Mozilla's Manifesto. Aware of that, some
Mozillians think that making computer product is not enough. Some people
think that Mozilla's manifesto should inspire world governance when they
talk about internet.

Some actions have been proposed in order to push Mozilla into that
direction. As long as this is quite assimilate to activism, no move were
done from the community. One question stay unanswered:

What Mozilla do think about taking part on internet defense ? (on a legal
field)

My own answer would be like.

If you have an Idea that is in relation to the Mozilla Manifesto (make sure
you've read it), just do it.
When this idea envolve Mozilla just inform governance Mailing list that you
are about to do it.
If people think this is a crazy thing, just abort it
Otherwise go for it and ask Mozillians-friend if they want to join.

Anyway, I've surely miss something about Mozilla's governance. So could
someone with high autority answer that question ?

Regards

Baptiste


 
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Majken Connor  
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 More options Sep 24 2012, 2:19 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.governance
From: Majken Connor <maj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:19:48 -0400
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2012 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Internet Governance and Mozilla
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Baptiste DENAEYER <b.denae...@gmail.com>wrote:

Mozilla already does participate in these ways, at least in the US. See
Harvey's blog http://lockshot.wordpress.com/

There is a legal mailing list that seems to be underutilized. That may be a
good place to organize these types of activities.


 
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Baptiste DENAEYER  
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 More options Sep 25 2012, 5:30 am
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From: Baptiste DENAEYER <b.denae...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:30:50 +0200
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 5:30 am
Subject: Re: Internet Governance and Mozilla
2012/9/24 Majken Connor <maj...@gmail.com>

> Mozilla already does participate in these ways, at least in the US. See
> Harvey's blog http://lockshot.wordpress.com/

> There is a legal mailing list that seems to be underutilized. That may be
> a good place to organize these types of activities.

Yes ok but this does not give us a clear view of what we van do or not in
the name of Mozilla ...

Baptiste


 
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Gervase Markham  
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 More options Sep 25 2012, 8:21 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.governance
From: Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:21:18 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 8:21 am
Subject: Re: Internet Governance and Mozilla
On 24/09/12 14:24, Baptiste DENAEYER wrote:

> What Mozilla do think about taking part on internet defense ? (on a legal
> field)

This is an _excellent_ question. Expect something soon from Mitchell
and/or Harvey on doing a better job of defining our approach here, and
what things we should get involved with, and what things we should not.

Gerv


 
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Mike Connor  
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 More options Sep 25 2012, 11:29 am
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From: Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:29:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Internet Governance and Mozilla
On 25/09/2012 5:30 AM, Baptiste DENAEYER wrote:

> 2012/9/24 Majken Connor <maj...@gmail.com>

>> Mozilla already does participate in these ways, at least in the US. See
>> Harvey's blog http://lockshot.wordpress.com/

>> There is a legal mailing list that seems to be underutilized. That may be
>> a good place to organize these types of activities.

> Yes ok but this does not give us a clear view of what we van do or not in
> the name of Mozilla ...

I don't think there's an objective list of what is and isn't acceptable
to do in the name of Mozilla.  That would be difficult, if not
impossible, to write and enforce.  As Gerv wrote, there's going to be a
set of guiding principles published in the near term, but even those, I
suspect, will not be fully deterministic about what Mozilla's position
will be in relation to future issues.

That shouldn't preclude anyone from trying to rally support within the
community, that's possible right now.  If you feel Mozilla as a whole
should take a formal and active position, keeping in mind that influence
is a finite resource, I think .governance is a good place to ask the
question.  You can even just engage Gerv directly to see who would be
the best champion for making a stronger play on an organizational level.

-- Mike


 
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