Most of these groups are high-traffic and read by busy people, so please pay attention to the topic of your messages, and check that it still relates to the charter of the forum to which you are posting. Off-topic discussion not taken to private email, mozilla.general, or any place where it is not considered off-topic, by someone who knows they should be taking it elsewhere, is <a>eligible for removal</a> from the news server.
Support Newsgroups Cancellation Policy (mozilla.support.*)
The support newsgroups are monitored by a small group of technical support community members. If they agree that someone is regularly off-topic or repeatedly violates the <a>etiquette document</a> in other ways, that will warn them by private email (or in the newsgroup if the email address cannot be determined). If they later agree that the behaviour has not changed, they will notify the person by email (or newsgroup post, as above) and then start to cancel any and all infringing posts from that person, without warning or comment.
At least the first time round, an emailed assurance of reformation, plus a practical demonstration of a couple of weeks in length (where the group feels the need to cancel no or very few posts), resets the process.
Other Newsgroups Cancellation Policy
Currently, no messages are cancelled in other Mozilla newsgroups.
3) I am proposing that, initially, the team of people mentioned in the above policy for support groups are: Chris Ilias and Nir. This choice was based on posting frequency and percentage of on-topicness from my stats. http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/msg/ccb585940608709f (fixed-width font required) Both have agreed to serve in this role. Another participant declined. I think two is sufficient; unanimity is therefore required.
I believe the above addresses the problem without being overly bureaucratic.
OT: How do I set Fx to display this? I tried Tools / Options / Default Font = Courier New
> I believe the above addresses the problem without being overly > bureaucratic.
It does seem overly *draconian* though. I hope ChrisI and Nir don't end up being the only supporters on mozilla.support.*. Most people are "imperfect" (<100% OT-free) and might shy away from potential slaps on the hand.
> OT: How do I set Fx to display this? I tried Tools / Options / Default > Font = Courier New
Changing the fonts in Firefox would probably work. However, it would be easier to click "More options" on the Google groups page and then "Show original", which displays the original message in a fixed width font.
On 2007-03-16, Peter.Potamus.the.Purple.Hi...@gmail.com
<Peter.Potamus.the.Purple.Hi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 3:29 am, Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org> wrote: >> 2) A cancellation policy as follows, to be placed on >> a new pagehttp://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html >> and linked from the above:
> why would you post info about a cancellation policy when there's no > such page:
He didn't post info about a policy, he posted a proposed text for a future policy and a proposed location for it.
If you actually read the message, the "policy as follows" indicates that the proposed policy text followed in his message (you snipped it out), and he said "to be placed on a new page" - obviously it's not there yet, because he's proposing it, not informing that it's already happened.
On 16/03/2007 6:29 AM, _Gervase Markham_ spoke thusly:
> Support Newsgroups Cancellation Policy (mozilla.support.*)
My initial intention was for this only to be applied to mozilla.support.firefox and mozilla.support.thunderbird. If it's going to be applied to any other support newsgroup, I'd like to make sure we have permission from the list owner of that list. -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird mozilla.test.multimedia moderator (Please do not email me tech support questions)
Chris Ilias wrote: > On 16/03/2007 6:29 AM, _Gervase Markham_ spoke thusly: >> Support Newsgroups Cancellation Policy (mozilla.support.*)
> My initial intention was for this only to be applied to > mozilla.support.firefox and mozilla.support.thunderbird. If it's going > to be applied to any other support newsgroup, I'd like to make sure we > have permission from the list owner of that list.
where do I find info about who owns what lists, like the one for SeaMonkey.
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> Some of the stats (jay only 30% on-topic) make me very concerned about > the enabled delete-fest.
When a thread is marked OT and I reply with an answer to the OP it's still OT for whatever reason, mainly because I "mark as read" and the only thing left is the OT ... :-(
On 16/03/2007 8:07 PM, _Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo_ spoke thusly:
> where do I find info about who owns what lists, like the one for SeaMonkey.
It's at the bottom right corner of each listinfo page at <https://lists.mozilla.org/>. For instance, on <https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey>, it says "support-seamonkey list run by kairo at kairo.at" Robert Kaiser runs support-seamonkey. -- Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca> List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird mozilla.test.multimedia moderator (Please do not email me tech support questions)
Chris Ilias wrote: > On 16/03/2007 8:07 PM, _Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo_ spoke thusly: >> where do I find info about who owns what lists, like the one for >> SeaMonkey.
thanks for the info. But there's a little problem. When I look at some of the lists, all it gives is this list is run by "nmo at ilias.ca" or "kairo at kairo.at," or "justdave at bugzilla.org". But, it doesn't tell you who those people are. It doesn't say who actually runs the list.
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