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The Real Bev

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May 20, 2013, 11:48:43 AM5/20/13
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I've found way too many messages in my Junk folder from friends,
brokers, etc. I mark them 'not junk' but that just moves them back to
the inbox and seems to have no other effect. Retraining hasn't helped.
I'd like to completely turn off the junk controls, but that doesn't seem
possible.

Any magic I can perform to kill the thing?

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conversation with the average voter." - Churchill

Ed Mullen

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May 20, 2013, 12:35:10 PM5/20/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> I've found way too many messages in my Junk folder from friends,
> brokers, etc. I mark them 'not junk' but that just moves them back to
> the inbox and seems to have no other effect. Retraining hasn't helped.
> I'd like to completely turn off the junk controls, but that doesn't seem
> possible.
>
> Any magic I can perform to kill the thing?
>

In Seamonkey, edit - preferences - Junk & Suspect Mail - UNcheck "When I
mark messages ..." and any other options there that you might not like.

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The Real Bev

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May 20, 2013, 12:50:55 PM5/20/13
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On 05/20/2013 09:35 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> I've found way too many messages in my Junk folder from friends,
>> brokers, etc. I mark them 'not junk' but that just moves them back to
>> the inbox and seems to have no other effect. Retraining hasn't helped.
>> I'd like to completely turn off the junk controls, but that doesn't seem
>> possible.
>>
>> Any magic I can perform to kill the thing?
>>
>
> In Seamonkey, edit - preferences - Junk & Suspect Mail - UNcheck "When I
> mark messages ..." and any other options there that you might not like.

That only seems to cover messages that I deliberately mark as Junk, not
its own decision-making process, but I unchecked everything on that page
anyway. We'll see...

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goodwin

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May 20, 2013, 12:51:55 PM5/20/13
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On 05/20/2013 08:48 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I've found way too many messages in my Junk folder from friends,
> brokers, etc. I mark them 'not junk' but that just moves them back to
> the inbox and seems to have no other effect. Retraining hasn't helped.
> I'd like to completely turn off the junk controls, but that doesn't seem
> possible.
>
> Any magic I can perform to kill the thing?
>
Have you compacted your junk folder?

One of your junk files may have gotten corrupted - you can safely delete
(or rename) junk.msf and see if any difference. Rename training.dat (or
deleting it) would set you back to square one and allow Tb to retrain
itself.

The Real Bev

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May 20, 2013, 6:40:01 PM5/20/13
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I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.

I compacted everything and told TB not to do anything with stuff I mark
as spam. Now it marks stuff as spam but leaves it in my inbox. I'm
going to go back to telling it to delete stuff I mark as spam and see
what happens.


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-- Colin Powell, former Good Guy

WaltS

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May 20, 2013, 6:50:17 PM5/20/13
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On 05/20/2013 06:40 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.
>
> I compacted everything and told TB not to do anything with stuff I mark
> as spam. Now it marks stuff as spam but leaves it in my inbox. I'm
> going to go back to telling it to delete stuff I mark as spam and see
> what happens.
>
>

Funny, I don't see it cancelled in either newsgroup. My reply is still
in m.s.thunderbird.

Copied for your convenience.

Select the account from the Folder Pane.

Select "View settings for this account".

Select Junk Settings and remove check marks as desired.

There are Junk settings in the Security tab of Preferences you may also
want to take a look at and adjust to your liking.

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WaltS

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May 20, 2013, 7:00:32 PM5/20/13
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On 05/20/2013 06:40 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.
>

Guess you and I both were wrong. Just opened the Beta version, and they
are cancelled. Probably will show as expired when I re-open TB 17.0.6.

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Thunderbird Beta 21.0b1
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The Real Bev

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May 20, 2013, 7:44:10 PM5/20/13
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On 05/20/2013 03:50 PM, WaltS wrote:

> On 05/20/2013 06:40 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
>> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
>> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.
>>
>> I compacted everything and told TB not to do anything with stuff I mark
>> as spam. Now it marks stuff as spam but leaves it in my inbox. I'm
>> going to go back to telling it to delete stuff I mark as spam and see
>> what happens.
>>
>>
>
> Funny, I don't see it cancelled in either newsgroup. My reply is still
> in m.s.thunderbird.
>
> Copied for your convenience.
>
> Select the account from the Folder Pane.
>
> Select "View settings for this account".
>
> Select Junk Settings and remove check marks as desired.

I just unset everything for several accounts except for 'trust Spam
Assassin'. Gotta trust somebody :-)

> There are Junk settings in the Security tab of Preferences you may also
> want to take a look at and adjust to your liking.

Unchecked all those. We'll see...


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Bev
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Daniel

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May 21, 2013, 2:22:20 AM5/21/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.

Bev, as I understand it, if a cross-posted msg is cancelled in any one
group, it disappears in all groups.

But, as Walt says he saw it in m.s.tb, I don't know!! Maybe, Walt saw it
before Chris did!!

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The Real Bev

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May 21, 2013, 2:34:33 AM5/21/13
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On 05/20/2013 11:22 PM, Daniel wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
>> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
>> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.
>
> Bev, as I understand it, if a cross-posted msg is cancelled in any one
> group, it disappears in all groups.
>
> But, as Walt says he saw it in m.s.tb, I don't know!! Maybe, Walt saw it
> before Chris did!!

Cancels don't affect the posts in google groups, so I went there and looked.

Vindictive little shit, isn't he?

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Ron Hunter

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May 21, 2013, 3:37:17 AM5/21/13
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On 5/20/2013 5:40 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was wrong.
>
> I compacted everything and told TB not to do anything with stuff I mark
> as spam. Now it marks stuff as spam but leaves it in my inbox. I'm
> going to go back to telling it to delete stuff I mark as spam and see
> what happens.
>
>
If you cross-post, and it is removed from one group, it will also be
deleted from the other. At least that is how I understand it.

Daniel

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May 22, 2013, 5:56:07 AM5/22/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 05/20/2013 11:22 PM, Daniel wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>> I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it to
>>> get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in both
>>> places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I was
>>> wrong.
>>
>> Bev, as I understand it, if a cross-posted msg is cancelled in any one
>> group, it disappears in all groups.
>>
>> But, as Walt says he saw it in m.s.tb, I don't know!! Maybe, Walt saw it
>> before Chris did!!
>
> Cancels don't affect the posts in google groups, so I went there and
> looked.
>
> Vindictive little shit, isn't he?

Or is he just trying to keep our eyes on the prize??

»Q«

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May 22, 2013, 9:53:21 AM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:22:20 +1000
Daniel <dx...@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
> > I posted this into both moz.gen and moz.support.TB. I expected it
> > to get canceled in m.s.TB, but not here. Guess what. Canceled in
> > both places. I thought Chris didn't touch the stuff here. Guess I
> > was wrong.
>
> Bev, as I understand it, if a cross-posted msg is cancelled in any
> one group, it disappears in all groups.

You're correct. The server only has one copy of each message, and
cancelling a message removes that copy.

Daniel

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May 23, 2013, 12:31:20 AM5/23/13
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Thanks for confirming, Q.
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