Job Applicants Being Asked For User/Pass Login Information

[Jay Garcia]

The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html

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[Ron Hunter]

On 3/20/2012 10:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>

My response to that would be "No. Bye." Might as well ask for me to
sign a signature card so they can write checks on my checking account,
or to authorize them to charge to my credit cards. But they can't ask
me if I have AIDS, or if I am married? Darn strange!

[Bill B]

Is it clear they CAN ask this of applicants, or are they just taking
advantage of a fuzzy part of the regs?

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Bill B" <bbr...@basicbusinesssim.invalid>

They can't ask you to give up your password.
They can ask you to logon and show them your profile.


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[Bill B]

On 3/20/2012 2:34 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Bill B"<bbr...@basicbusinesssim.invalid>
>
>> On 3/20/2012 2:17 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> On 3/20/2012 10:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>>>>
>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My response to that would be "No. Bye." Might as well ask for me to sign
>>> a signature card so they can write checks on my checking account, or to
>>> authorize them to charge to my credit cards. But they can't ask me if I
>>> have AIDS, or if I am married? Darn strange!
>>
>> Is it clear they CAN ask this of applicants, or are they just taking advantage of a
>> fuzzy part of the regs?
>
> They can't ask you to give up your password.
> They can ask you to logon and show them your profile.

Taken one level of abstraction, it would seem that an employer could ask
for anything that is private in the context that you can display it if
you choose, but you don't have to if you choose not.

Isn't that essentially the same as asking if you have AIDS or are
married (as Ron mentioned)?

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 13:30, Bill B wrote:

I would have refused to answer but not walked out, leaving it up to the
interviewer/company to make the next move.

[David H. Lipman]

Asking about AIDS is covered under HIPPA.
Asking about marital status is covered under another law.
Asking for you Login Name and Password is covered under Federal Law and the AUP/ToS of the
service the account is for. The article indicates that while it is against Federal Law to
be forced to divulge your account credentials it went on to say it may be something the
DoJ would not prosecute.

As long as there is no specific law covering this concept and employer will try to get
whatever they can to vet the employee.

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 13:34, David H. Lipman wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> From: "Bill B" <bbr...@basicbusinesssim.invalid>
>
>> On 3/20/2012 2:17 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> On 3/20/2012 10:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>>>>
>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My response to that would be "No. Bye." Might as well ask for me to sign
>>> a signature card so they can write checks on my checking account, or to
>>> authorize them to charge to my credit cards. But they can't ask me if I
>>> have AIDS, or if I am married? Darn strange!
>>
>> Is it clear they CAN ask this of applicants, or are they just taking advantage of a
>> fuzzy part of the regs?
>
> They can't ask you to give up your password.
> They can ask you to logon and show them your profile.
>
>

A company can ask but they must ask every candidate or be liable for
discrimination if they only ask one or two, etc. And you are not
required to give the information.

There are no laws specifically protecting the social networking privacy
of job seekers and employees. But be aware that if you use the company
computers to access your social networking site then you are at a
greater risk. You can also be terminated for using company internet
access for other than company business.

Here are 30 questions a company cannot ask, at least directly:

http://www.focus.com/fyi/30-interview-questions-you-cant-ask-and-30-sneaky-legal-get/

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 13:44, Bill B wrote:

--- Original Message ---

See my reply to David with the link to the 30 questions you cannot be
asked (directly). And yes, you can be asked if you are married, there is
a checkbox for marital status on most if not all job applications.

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 14:15, David H. Lipman wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Employers SHOULD not but CAN ask the following:

Race
Color
Sex
Religion
National origin
Birthplace
Age
Disability
Marital/family status

You don't have to answer any of them and if you do answer one or more,
the employer cannot discriminate based on the answer.

An employer CAN ask if you are authorized to work in the U.S. but cannot
ask if you are a U.S. Citizen. It can get rather tricky.

[Dave Warren]

In the last episode of <_OGdncwwV9t0SPXS...@mozilla.org>,

Jay Garcia <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> said:

>I would have refused to answer but not walked out, leaving it up to the
>interviewer/company to make the next move.

Pretty much. This works better in skilled forms of employment, where the
employer doesn't have 997 other applicants in the waiting room right at
this moment.

Unfortunately if you're completely unskilled, you may have less options.

On the other hand, one can simply deactivate their Facebook account
before starting job hunting and honestly say "I cancelled my account and
don't use Facebook"

[Dave Warren]

In the last episode of <9ZSdnTJGga5fUfXS...@mozilla.org>,

Bill B <bbr...@basicbusinesssim.invalid> said:

>Is it clear they CAN ask this of applicants, or are they just taking
>advantage of a fuzzy part of the regs?

We have this thing called "freedom", which basically means that anything
not explicitly prohibited by law (including common-law and
black-letter-law, depending on your jurisdiction) is permitted.

So unless someone can find a reason that a business cannot make this
request of applicants, then yes, it's legal.

That doesn't make it moral or right, and a court might step in at some
point, but until that happens...

[clay]

Or, in my case I have never had and will never have a FaceSpace page...

(at least, not a legit one. I may have created a throwaway one in order
to view others...)

Sadly, (some) companies are screening strictly based on an applicants
presence on the Internet.
...moving farther away from reality and into the fantasy world which is
the WWW.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Jay Garcia" <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com>

Yes. Very tricky.

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 15:47, Dave Warren wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Unfortunately the applicant isn't in the most advantageous position as
the one needing the job. If the applicant refuses and is denied
employment, it would be next to impossible to prove that the denial was
based on the applicant's refusal to supply the logon information.

[Ron Hunter]

And all I have ever filled out ask for a date of birth.

[Ron Hunter]

I have a rather significant visibility on the internet, but my Facebook
profile is for friends, and family, not for ANY business to use.

[Ron Hunter]

On 3/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 20.03.2012 15:47, Dave Warren wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> In the last episode of<_OGdncwwV9t0SPXS...@mozilla.org>,
>> Jay Garcia<J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> said:
>>
>>> I would have refused to answer but not walked out, leaving it up to the
>>> interviewer/company to make the next move.
>>
>> Pretty much. This works better in skilled forms of employment, where the
>> employer doesn't have 997 other applicants in the waiting room right at
>> this moment.
>>
>> Unfortunately if you're completely unskilled, you may have less options.
>>
>> On the other hand, one can simply deactivate their Facebook account
>> before starting job hunting and honestly say "I cancelled my account and
>> don't use Facebook"
>
> Unfortunately the applicant isn't in the most advantageous position as
> the one needing the job. If the applicant refuses and is denied
> employment, it would be next to impossible to prove that the denial was
> based on the applicant's refusal to supply the logon information.
>

I suppose you could give them the information, then step out and delete
the account on your smartphone...

[Bill B]

I wonder if the generation of people that so readily makes things public
really care if they are asked about their private lives. It isn't any
different from "friending" a potential employer.

[»Q«]

In the U.S. at least, there are specific laws against asking about
certain things, including medical info. I wonder what the interviewers
would do if an applicant said "I've posted some info on facebook, for
friends, which is illegal for you to ask me to provide." I may log in
tonight to let all my friends know whether or not I'm HIV-positive. ;)

[Andrew DeFaria]

On 03/20/2012 01:47 PM, Dave Warren wrote:

In the last episode of <_OGdncwwV9t0SPXS...@mozilla.org>,
Jay Garcia <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> said:

I would have refused to answer but not walked out, leaving it up to the
interviewer/company to make the next move.

Pretty much. This works better in skilled forms of employment, where the
employer doesn't have 997 other applicants in the waiting room right at
this moment.

Unfortunately if you're completely unskilled, you may have less options.

You have the option to get some skills! Many of us have! YOU decided not to. I have little sympathy for you.

On the other hand, one can simply deactivate their Facebook account
before starting job hunting and honestly say "I cancelled my account and
don't use Facebook"

Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.

--
Andrew DeFaria
If you're living on the edge, make sure you're wearing your seat belt.

[GerardJan]

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> On 03/20/2012 01:47 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
>> In the last episode of<_OGdncwwV9t0SPXS...@mozilla.org>,
>> Jay Garcia<J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> said:
>>
>>> I would have refused to answer but not walked out, leaving it up to the
>>> interviewer/company to make the next move.
>> Pretty much. This works better in skilled forms of employment, where the
>> employer doesn't have 997 other applicants in the waiting room right at
>> this moment.
>>
>> Unfortunately if you're completely unskilled, you may have less options.

> You have the option to get some skills! Many of us have! *YOU* decided

> not to. I have little sympathy for you.
>> On the other hand, one can simply deactivate their Facebook account
>> before starting job hunting and honestly say "I cancelled my account and
>> don't use Facebook"
> Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.
> --

> Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>

> If you're living on the edge, make sure you're wearing your seat belt.

media.egs-sneek.nl

--
Vink

[David E. Ross]

On 3/20/12 8:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>

According to the news on NBC's local station in Los Angeles, several
states are considering legislation to prohibit this.

--

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<http://www.rossde.com/>.

Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/20/12 8:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>>
>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>>
>
> According to the news on NBC's local station in Los Angeles, several
> states are considering legislation to prohibit this.
>

But CNBC is in my spam list,,,

--
Vink

[Ron Hunter]

It appears not. Many of my Facebook friends seem to blissfully 'like'
businesses, and enter 'apps', and allow these apps to post with their
name. It is rather hard to lock these activities out so that Facebook
doesn't broadcast my information to the world.

[Daniel]

Ron Hunter wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 4:00 PM, clay wrote:
>> On 03/20/2012 1:47 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
>>> In the last episode of<_OGdncwwV9t0SPXS...@mozilla.org>,
>>> Jay Garcia<J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> said:

<Snip>

>>> On the other hand, one can simply deactivate their Facebook account
>>> before starting job hunting and honestly say "I cancelled my account and
>>> don't use Facebook"
>>
>> Or, in my case I have never had and will never have a FaceSpace page...
>>
>> (at least, not a legit one. I may have created a throwaway one in order
>> to view others...)
>>
>> Sadly, (some) companies are screening strictly based on an applicants
>> presence on the Internet.
>> ...moving farther away from reality and into the fantasy world which is
>> the WWW.
>
> I have a rather significant visibility on the internet, but my Facebook
> profile is for friends, and family, not for ANY business to use.
>

A work colleague had made disparaging remarks about our team-leader on
her Facebook account. Another co-worker, apparently, mentioned the
comments to the team-leader, who then asked the poster for access to her
Facebook account.

I don't think she provided access.
Being a casual worker has it's drawbacks at times.

--
Daniel

[Bill B]

The theory for not asking such questions is that none of them have any
intrinsic causal effect on workplace performance. We all know people
whose performance is wanting that are of a certain Race, Color, Sex,
Religion, National origin, Birthplace, Age, Disability, or
Marital/family status. However, that certain level of performance is not
common amongst ALL people of a certain Race, Color, Sex, Religion,
National origin, Birthplace, Age, Disability, or Marital/family status,
leaving the actual performance as a function of the individual, not the
arbitrary group they have been assigned to.

(By arbitrary I do not mean capricious, only that with different
thinking, different groups might have been identified, e.g., Lives Near
Water, Green Eyes, Wears Laced Shoes or Wrinkled Shirt, Has Gravel for
Front Lawn, or Shoots Left Handed.)

[Jay Garcia]

On 20.03.2012 23:46, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.

If the interviewer asks for your FB login and pass I would think they
already know you have an account.

[Jay Garcia]

It's known as profiling, something that every employer has a right to
discovery and also has the right to not hire based on the profile. The
trick is in formulating the questions that make up the profile.

[Bill B]

Agreed, Jay, and using Race, Color, Sex, Religion, National origin,
Birthplace, Age, Disability, or Marital/family status is about the least
effective way to do it. You'd have better luck throwing darts.

[Ron Hunter]

Depending on the job, most of those issues could be very important to
job performance. Gender might be very important if the job were testing
feminine hygiene products, and a person with no legs wouldn't be much
use on a professional football team. I can't see how where a person was
born would cause a problem, though. Certainly if a person were divorced
with 3 small children, one would expect this to mean he would need time
off unexpectedly in come cases. And age certainly does make a
difference for people like models, and actors.

[Ron Hunter]

On 3/21/2012 6:19 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 20.03.2012 23:46, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.
>
> If the interviewer asks for your FB login and pass I would think they
> already know you have an account.
>
>

I would just feel like an employer who wants to dig that deeply into my
personal life would need some reasonable justification for doing so, on
the order of national security issues.
Having been, at least twice, investigated by the FBI for security
clearance, I really am not concerned with them finding anything, but an
employer just doesn't need to go back to where I grew up and ask people
what they thought of me. (Which they DID when I was in the USAF.)

[GerardJan]

i am retired and had a NATO-B license + Registered Information
Scientist, ask Johan....@squirrel.nl

--
~Vink

[Bill B]

You make a valid point, partially. If any of those are in fact
performance related, and so stated in the light of day (that is, it
appears in the position description), I think your argument would hold
up. But in the case of single parent with three children, wouldn't you
also have to inquire into the support system the person has, which is
more of a determinant of missing work than marital status and number of
children?

And, how is having to leave work unexpectedly for one reason
qualitatively different from having leaving work unexpectedly for
another reason? Wouldn't you be better off inquiring into the frequency
with which all applicants for the job leave work unexpectedly for any
reason?

[Andrew DeFaria]

On 03/20/2012 10:50 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/20/12 8:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:

The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html

According to the news on NBC's local station in Los Angeles, several
states are considering legislation to prohibit this.

You shouldn't legislate this. People who do not want to divulge such things can simply refuse to. Get a backbone.

--
Andrew DeFaria
There's nothing more annoying than Stravinsky or the Sex Pistols being drowned out by "You've got mail!"

[Andrew DeFaria]

WTF?

--
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I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar.

[Andrew DeFaria]

On 03/21/2012 04:54 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:

On 3/21/2012 6:19 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:

On 20.03.2012 23:46, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.

If the interviewer asks for your FB login and pass I would think they
already know you have an account.

They might think they know, but with some 800 million people there are bound to be name clashes. Of course this all depends on how much info you post. Andrew DeFaria is not a name that I would think many others share, but a quick search on Facebook reveals many of them.

--
Andrew DeFaria
What has four legs and an arm? A happy pit bull.

[Ken Springer]

On 3/20/12 9:32 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>

There are a number of items in the U.S. that *cannot* be asked when you
apply for employment. Been there, done that, as the hiring individual
before retirement.

Categorized, they are the following:

Illegal Interview Questions

Employers should not ask about any of the following, because to not hire
a candidate because of any one of them is discriminatory:

Race
Color
Sex
Religion
National origin
Birthplace
Age
Disability
Marital/family status

Source: jobsearch.about.com/od/interviewsnetworking/a/illegalinterv.htm

Some other sources I found with a quick Ask.com search:

www.hrworld.com/features/30-interview-questions-111507/

www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/steer-clear-of-these-10-illegal-job-interview-questions/229

www.toolkit.com/small_business_guide/sbg.aspx?nid=P05_0870

www.wetfeet.com/advice-tools/interviewing/ten-questions-you-should-never-be-asked-in-an-interview



For those that really want to delve into this subject, you can start
with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission home page:

www.eeoc.gov

www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/index.cfm <---- Discrimination by Type

www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/index.cfm <---- Prohibited Employment
Policies/Practices


--
Ken

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Thunderbird 10.0.2
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[Jay Garcia]

On 21.03.2012 09:23, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> On 03/21/2012 04:54 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>> On 3/21/2012 6:19 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>>> On 20.03.2012 23:46, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>>>
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>>> Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.
>>>
>>> If the interviewer asks for your FB login and pass I would think they
>>> already know you have an account.
> They might think they know, but with some 800 million people there are bound to
> be name clashes. Of course this all depends on how much info you post. Andrew
> DeFaria is not a name that I would think many others share, but a quick search
> on Facebook reveals many of them.
> --

> Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>

> What has four legs and an arm? A happy pit bull.

Question #12: Do you have a Facebook account?
Answer: yes
Question #13: What is your login information

[Ron Hunter]

On 3/21/2012 6:45 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 21.03.2012 09:23, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> On 03/21/2012 04:54 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>> On 3/21/2012 6:19 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>> On 20.03.2012 23:46, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>>>>
>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>
>>>>> Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.
>>>>
>>>> If the interviewer asks for your FB login and pass I would think they
>>>> already know you have an account.
>> They might think they know, but with some 800 million people there are bound to
>> be name clashes. Of course this all depends on how much info you post. Andrew
>> DeFaria is not a name that I would think many others share, but a quick search
>> on Facebook reveals many of them.
>> --
>> Andrew DeFaria<http://defaria.com>
>> What has four legs and an arm? A happy pit bull.
>
> Question #12: Do you have a Facebook account?
> Answer: yes
> Question #13: What is your login information
>
>

It's confidential, do you have a need to know?

[Cy Burnot]

Ron Hunter has written on 3/21/2012 7:54 PM:

Examination of your FB page is part of the interview for this job.

I suspect they want the creds because they do not know how to access the
FB page of someone who is not a "friend". Come to think of it, neither
do I. :-)

[Ron Hunter]

That would be 'hacking', and in some states would be illegal. To that
answer, I would say: "Ok, fine, you give me your bank id and password,
and I'll give you my Facebook id and password."

[Dave Warren]

In the last episode of <sfSdnZH8Ls6kwPTS...@mozilla.org>,

Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com> said:

>Or you can just say I don't use Facebook. Ya know. Lie.

Do you think that getting caught in a lie increases or decreases your
chances of getting a job?

[Dr J R Stockton]

In mozilla.general message <NqOdnX66jZIsXfTS...@mozilla.org
>, Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:51:17, Ron Hunter <rphu...@charter.net> posted:

>Depending on the job, most of those issues could be very important to
>job performance.

> ...

> I can't see how where a person was born would cause a problem,
>though.

For the top Federal job in the United States, I understand that it, and
being of sufficient age, are of the utmost importance.

In some countries, correct choice of parents is highly important.

--
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Website <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

[Jay Garcia]

On 22.03.2012 15:19, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> In mozilla.general message <NqOdnX66jZIsXfTS...@mozilla.org
>>, Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:51:17, Ron Hunter <rphu...@charter.net> posted:
>
>>Depending on the job, most of those issues could be very important to
>>job performance.
>> ...
>> I can't see how where a person was born would cause a problem,
>>though.
>
> For the top Federal job in the United States, I understand that it, and
> being of sufficient age, are of the utmost importance.
>
> In some countries, correct choice of parents is highly important.
>

Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, the choice of parents
isn't an option.

[GerardJan]

Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 22.03.2012 15:19, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> In mozilla.general message<NqOdnX66jZIsXfTS...@mozilla.org
>>> , Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:51:17, Ron Hunter<rphu...@charter.net> posted:
>>
>>> Depending on the job, most of those issues could be very important to
>>> job performance.
>>> ...
>>> I can't see how where a person was born would cause a problem,
>>> though.
>>
>> For the top Federal job in the United States, I understand that it, and
>> being of sufficient age, are of the utmost importance.
>>
>> In some countries, correct choice of parents is highly important.
>>
>
> Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, the choice of parents
> isn't an option.
>

yes, I agree and am on Fedora 16, 2.7.1

--
~Vink

[NotMe]

"Jay Garcia" <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> wrote in message
news:btWdnUCL3PmOPvXS...@mozilla.org...

> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>

http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t386/DUpoliticalcartoons7/108464_600.jpg

[Cy Burnot]

NotMe has written on 3/23/2012 5:32 PM:

http://pic.photobucket.com/bwe.gif

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Jay Garcia" <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com>

> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>

US Senator Charles Schumer is taking up the cause of privacy.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/us-senators-investigate-employers-asking-for-facebook-passwords/10834


--
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http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Ron Hunter]

On 4/2/2012 3:10 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Jay Garcia graced us with on
> 3/20/2012 8:32 AM:

>> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>>
>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html
>>
>>

> REF:
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/teachers-aide-fired-for-refusing-to-hand-over-facebook-password/11246
>
>
> [excerpt quote="
> Soon after, Colby wrote Hester a letter, a part of which said the
> following, according to WSBT: “…in the absence of you voluntarily
> granting Lewis Cass ISD administration access to you[r] Facebook page,
> we will assume the worst and act accordingly.” Hester says he put her on
> paid administrative leave and eventually suspended her. She chose unpaid
> leave, to collect workman’s compensation, and vowed to put up a fight.
> " /]
>
> Sounds like an excellent case for legally stopping this nefarious behavior.
>

I think she can win this case. I believe that if it goes to court, her
attorney should ask Lewiss Cass the password to HIS Facebook acount, his
bank account, and his credit card numbers. If he refuses, then she
should ask the school board to fire HIM. Then ask the judge, and the
lawyer for the school the same thing.
This could have been handled simply by asking for a copy of the image in
question.

[David Boles]

Virtualbox has a well know public policy to not chase alpha or beta
software. Windows 8 qualifies as that.

[»Q«]

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:32:35 -0500
Jay Garcia <J...@JayNOSPAMGarcia.com> wrote:

> The ghost of George Orwell is alive and well:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-080920368.html

An interesting reaction:

<http://raganwald.posterous.com/i-hereby-resign>