do we need talos graph links anymore?

alice nodelman

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Apr 17, 2009, 5:20:39 PM4/17/09

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I've been maintaining:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos/Machines#Graph_Links

With https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487329 (Graph Server
migration tracking) we will no longer be using graphs.m.o, but moving
full time to graphs-new.m.o.

Due to the new search features in graphs-new.m.o it is easier to search
for the results that you are interested in - nochrome and fast cycle
results are correctly split out of regular data, you can search by the
waterfall name instead of number (ie, Firefox instead of
moz-central/1.9.2) and there is less old, busted data hiding in the
database.

Is there any point in maintaining the list of graph links anymore? Can
we get along without it now?

I have filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487333 (update
talos graph links page to use new graph server), but would be just as
happy to WONTFIX it. I don't want to put effort into maintaining a doc
that isn't in active use.

So, sheriffs/developers - what say you?

alice.

Mike Shaver

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Apr 17, 2009, 5:39:08 PM4/17/09

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, alice nodelman <anod...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> So, sheriffs/developers - what say you?

I say they had a good run.

Mike

Justin Dolske

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Apr 17, 2009, 7:32:13 PM4/17/09

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On 4/17/09 2:20 PM, alice nodelman wrote:
> I've been maintaining:
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos/Machines#Graph_Links

Fine by me. I didn't find the pile-of-links method very useful...
Johnath's PDB2 and catlee's regression scripts (posting here) are are
better way to watch for problems.

Justin

Jesse Ruderman

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:14:43 PM4/22/09

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From what I can tell, the new graph server still has many of the
problems that make the list-of-links approach useful:

* It takes a bunch of clicks to get a graph showing all the mozilla-
central Vista Ts results. This seems like a more common use case than
anything that would necessitate scrolling through a complete list of
machines, so I don't understand why it's so hidden. And someone who
wants to see multiple platforms or multiple tests is going to have to
go through most of the process several times.

* The page is intimidating, at least to me (I don't use it often).

* The page is slow to load and slow respond to each click, at least in
Firefox debug builds.

* The URLs are really long, making them unfriendly to IRC / email /
human understanding and trusting. For example, instead of

http://graphs-new.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/Ts/Vista

I get

http://graphs-new.mozilla.org/#tests=[{%22test%22:%2216%22,%22branch%22:%221%22,%22machine%22:%2267%22},{%22test%22:%2216%22,%22branch%22:%221%22,%22machine%22:%2268%22},{%22test%22:%2216%22,%22branch%22:%221%22,%22machine%22:%2269%22},{%22test%22:%2216%22,%22branch%22:%221%22,%22machine%22:%2270%22}]

alice nodelman

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Apr 22, 2009, 9:57:51 PM4/22/09

to Jesse Ruderman

Can we get these issues filed as bugs against graph-server? I think
that a better fix would be to make graph server more friendly, then just
to accept that it is unwieldy and force maintenance of the graph links.

(Should be in webdev/graph server.)

alice.

Jesse Ruderman

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Apr 23, 2009, 1:48:41 PM4/23/09

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Here are my bugs:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=489741%2C489740%2C489738%2C489735

I also blogged about this, http://www.squarefree.com/2009/04/23/performance-graphs/