Is there any news from the front regarding when the next XForms add-on will be released with Firefox 3 support. (I know about Philipp's build - thanks Philipp!) There was some talk about two months ago that made a release sound very close.
I'm also curious to know who the current developers are? The page:
The 0.8.6 for FF2 (to run on recently released FF 2.0.0.17) was submitted to addons yesterday and will be made available once they approve it.
0.8.6 for FF3 (to run on recently released FF 3.0.2) will be uploaded shortly if it hasn't been uploaded yet. Just some housekeeping to be done on it. Once it is uploaded it will be made available once addons approves it.
IBM removed its last full-time developer after 0.8.5 went out. Now everyone on the project are volunteers. Olli, Doron, Alex Surkov, John Clark and I are still available for code reviews and to help mentor anyone who comes along wishing to contribute to the project, but most of us don't have time to do regular patches. You'll see patches from us from time to time, though. Philipp Wagner has also been working diligently at keeping our extension alive and well for FF3. So while new functionality and patches aren't exactly numerous anymore, the project isn't dead.
New developers are always welcome and we'll do what we can to get new volunteers up to speed and contributing quickly.
r...@forge-industrial.com wrote: > Is there any news from the front regarding when the next XForms add-on > will be released with Firefox 3 support. (I know about Philipp's build > - thanks Philipp!) There was some talk about two months ago that made > a release sound very close.
> I'm also curious to know who the current developers are? The page:
The Mozilla Firefox extension has been a great help to us all. I know I've thanked you personally before but I want to thank you again.
My understanding from outside IBM is that far from abandoning XForms, IBM is taking what has been learned in this Mozilla-only extension and putting it into a cross-browser system call Ubiquity XForms (unrelated to the subsequently-announced Mozilla Ubiquity Javascript command-line project, or the Ubunutu "Ubiquity" Linux installer).
I believe that it will be some time before Ubiquity XForms is at the level of completeness of the Mozilla XForms extension, which is close to if not complete XForms 1.1, but my understanding is that a lot of effort is going into Ubiquity XForms.
[mailto:dev-tech-xforms-bounces+leigh.klotz=xerox....@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Reed Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:42 AM To: dev-tech-xfo...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: XForms on Firefox 3...what's the news from the front?
The 0.8.6 for FF2 (to run on recently released FF 2.0.0.17) was submitted to addons yesterday and will be made available once they approve it.
0.8.6 for FF3 (to run on recently released FF 3.0.2) will be uploaded shortly if it hasn't been uploaded yet. Just some housekeeping to be done on it. Once it is uploaded it will be made available once addons approves it.
IBM removed its last full-time developer after 0.8.5 went out. Now everyone on the project are volunteers. Olli, Doron, Alex Surkov, John Clark and I are still available for code reviews and to help mentor anyone who comes along wishing to contribute to the project, but most of us don't have time to do regular patches. You'll see patches from us from time to time, though. Philipp Wagner has also been working diligently at keeping our extension alive and well for FF3. So while new functionality and patches aren't exactly numerous anymore, the project isn't dead.
New developers are always welcome and we'll do what we can to get new volunteers up to speed and contributing quickly.
--Aaron
r...@forge-industrial.com wrote: > Is there any news from the front regarding when the next XForms add-on
> will be released with Firefox 3 support. (I know about Philipp's build > - thanks Philipp!) There was some talk about two months ago that made > a release sound very close.
> I'm also curious to know who the current developers are? The page:
Thanks for the update Aaron. Somewhat sad news - this project has come so far. Still, its nice to hear that the FF3 version is on hand, that the volunteers are still around and active (if at a reduced capacity), and that Ubiquity is on the horizon too. Many thanks to all the volunteers so far! I believe, for many of us developers, the Firefox extension has proved to be the attractive low-barrier to entry to the XForms world and a pleasant world it is. Long live XForms.
I have had exactly this same question as mawrya, plus I have the same a bit sad feeling about it.
I have been working with many user interface technologies for web applications for a long time and, as xml has become the most important technique for storing my data, I can't think of anything better today for editing these xml data in a browser. I manage to design web application with an architecture of an extreme beauty, thanks to XForms.
At the same time I also think that if there is no big company supporting the standard, it might fade away. I fear that some support from a few volunteers only will not be enough for the technology to survive. There seems not be enough lobbying for the technology within big companies like IBM or Sun. Or there are no managers or marketing people aware of the strength of the technology. I think that the financial funding for developing the XForms engines will always have to be decided by these non-developers.
I somebody aware of a web page with an overview of what the big companies are doing with XForms? From Aaron's response, IBM is still working with it. As far as I know, Open Office also has support for XForms, but I haven't tested it. Microsoft, I suppose, is an opponent.
> Is there any news from the front regarding when the next XForms add-on > will be released with Firefox 3 support. (I know about Philipp's build > - thanks Philipp!) There was some talk about two months ago that made > a release sound very close.
> I'm also curious to know who the current developers are? The page:
> seems out of date. Are most of you volunteers? Is IBM still sponsoring > the XForms add-on to some degree? > _______________________________________________ > dev-tech-xforms mailing list > dev-tech-xfo...@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-xforms
To get a general overview of XForms as a technology, I would suggest that you should follow the W3C newsgroups. Not only do they discuss future spec work, they also keep readers up to date with XForms adopters, industry news, etc.
> I have had exactly this same question as mawrya, plus I have the same > a bit sad feeling about it.
> I have been working with many user interface technologies for web > applications for a long time and, as xml has become the most important > technique for storing my data, I can't think of anything better today > for editing these xml data in a browser. I manage to design web > application with an architecture of an extreme beauty, thanks to > XForms.
> At the same time I also think that if there is no big company > supporting the standard, it might fade away. I fear that some support > from a few volunteers only will not be enough for the technology to > survive. There seems not be enough lobbying for the technology within > big companies like IBM or Sun. Or there are no managers or marketing > people aware of the strength of the technology. I think that the > financial funding for developing the XForms engines will always have > to be decided by these non-developers.
> I somebody aware of a web page with an overview of what the big > companies are doing with XForms? From Aaron's response, IBM is still > working with it. As far as I know, Open Office also has support for > XForms, but I haven't tested it. Microsoft, I suppose, is an opponent.
> Koen
> 2008/9/25 <r...@forge-industrial.com>: >> Is there any news from the front regarding when the next XForms add-on >> will be released with Firefox 3 support. (I know about Philipp's build >> - thanks Philipp!) There was some talk about two months ago that made >> a release sound very close.
>> I'm also curious to know who the current developers are? The page:
>> seems out of date. Are most of you volunteers? Is IBM still sponsoring >> the XForms add-on to some degree? >> _______________________________________________ >> dev-tech-xforms mailing list >> dev-tech-xfo...@lists.mozilla.org >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-xforms
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