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Marek Stępień  
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 More options Jun 22 2007, 2:30 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.tech.layout
From: Marek Stępień <marek.step...@domain.invalid>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:30:29 +0200
Local: Fri, Jun 22 2007 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: Camino User-Agent string
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Andrew Schultz pisze:

> Gervase Markham wrote:
>> So perhaps the right thing to do is to remove the Firefox name from
>> the UA string? If Firefox itself did it, the web would need to pay
>> attention.

> This seems like a great idea to me.  The only good reason I can see to
> not do this is that there are some sites that might want to sniff out
> the product for the purpose of delivering appropriate extensions (AMO,
> Google toolbar, etc).  I was discussing this with Sander and he
> suggested that the app's GUID be exposed as part of the user agent (or I
> guess as another |naviagator| property) so that sites with interest in
> delivering extensions could sniff that out (if they're making
> extensions, they'd know that anyway).  

A simpler solution, I think, would be to drop "Firefox/x.x.x.x" from the
UA string, but leave the product name in place for other apps (Camino,
SeaMonkey, Thunderbird). Basically, let's re-use the late Mozilla
Suite's UA string for Firefox.

So, imagine we had implemented this solution in 1.8. Firefox 2.0.0.4
with this scheme would just have been:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; pl; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/2007051502

but Camino's UA string wouldn't need any changes:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; pl; rv:1.8.1.4)
Gecko/20070509 Camino/1.5 (MultiLang)

This way, stats companies can still easily differentiate between
Firefox and non-Firefox apps (so you won't serve a SeaMonkey extension
to a Firefox user), but ignorant web developers would need to
specifically block Camino or SeaMonkey.

In a sense, this is what Camino developers wanted - full Firefox UA
string in the Camino one. ;-)

--
Marek Stepien
mstep...@aviary.pl


 
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