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Frank Hecker  
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 More options Dec 23 2008, 12:09 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.tech.crypto
From: Frank Hecker <hec...@mozillafoundation.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:09:50 +0000
Local: Tues, Dec 23 2008 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Unbelievable!

Kyle Hamilton wrote:
> I advocate at least temporarily removing the trust bits from Comodo
> until a new external audit can be completed, with an eye toward
> ensuring that Comodo, not the reseller, perform the domain
> validations.

There are two general reasons for pulling a root, to address a clear and
present danger to Mozilla users, and to punish a CA and deter others. My
concern right now is with the former. I see at least three issues in
relation to that:

1. Issuance of further non-validated certs by this reseller. Comodo
seems to have addressed this by suspending the reseller's ability to get
certs issued. (I can testify that this is the case, as I tried to
duplicate Eddy's feat earlier today and got my uploaded CSR rejected.)

2. Potential problems with certs already sold through this reseller.
Comodo should investigate this and take action if needed. (This need not
necessarily require revoking all certificates associated with the
reseller; for example, the existing certs and their associated domains
could be re-validated, the registered domain owners could be notified of
the potential for bogus certs floating around, etc.)

3. Potential problems with other Comodo resellers. I'm not going to tell
Comodo how to operate its reseller network, but they certainly should
take a look at whether and where this might be a problem with other
resellers, and how they could revamp their systems to reduce potential
problems with resellers.

Pulling a Comodo root will knock out Firefox, etc., access to thousands
of SSL sites, maybe tens of thousands. Given the disruption that would
cause, the final decision on this IMO should be made in conjunction with
the Firefox security folks. From my point of view I'd wait on more
information regarding items 2 and 3 above before making a recommendation.

Frank

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Frank Hecker
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